Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Dan On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:34 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I seem to remember a 600 LWB sitting at a local indies. It needed a hydraulic master control unit for the drivers door which either raised and

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
MB uses a mineral based hydraulic oil that is pretty much odorless. Same thing in my SL500 top hydraulics as in the 600. Tastes nasty, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That's so you don't mistake it for Stolichnaya. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: MB uses a mineral based hydraulic oil that is pretty much odorless. Same thing in my SL500 top hydraulics as in the 600. Tastes nasty, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
First SL500 I looked at had a clear fluid dripping from the right rear fender cavity drain. Hmm. Touch and rub it between fingers. Not greasy or oily. Hmm. Taste. Yuck! That's when I learned that one f the giveaways for certain top hydraulic cylinders leaking is drips out the body

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves me out :-) Craig

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. I'm not holding my breath. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
When we meet in person I'll show you. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. I'm not holding my

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/01/2014 2:49 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I know about that having owned a m100 in the past Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Craig

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:17:29 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: When we meet in person I'll show you. OK. Craig On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's mechanic! Unfortunately, not very enforceable in this day and age. :-)

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Craig wrote: I'm not holding my breath. I understand it to be a handshake with a $100 bill in your palm. Or is it $1,000. --Philip ___

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Shhh!! And it's a $100 bill (only because $1000s are no longer in general circulation.) Dan who has given and received the M100 handshake On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Craig wrote:

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread Dieselhead
On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-03 Thread OK Don
Apparently, being fed to dogs is the preferred method in N. Korea now -- http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/03/newser-kim-jong-un-uncle-execution/4303319/ To quote an old friend, Never tempt worse. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 3,

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2014-01-02 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
I seem to remember a 600 LWB sitting at a local indies. It needed a hydraulic master control unit for the drivers door which either raised and lowered the windows or operated the locks; I think it was for the windows, and the reason it was hydraulic was because the conventional system made a

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal VW phathetic

2013-12-31 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yeah one of those, why bother type things. Far as I (well wikipedia) knows, VW already had vehicles in the luxury bracket, such as the Audi A8 and Bentley. I think the would have been better off to put money into the Bentley brand to build it up to be a competitor to BMW and MB. Or build Audi

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-31 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ahh you be wanting the V10 for extra giddy up and go. Hendrik who does not own a V10 On 31/12/13 15:00, Mitch Haley wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I never paid any attention. Well, maybe if they had a TDI version in this country, or

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
What's so special about a VW Phaeton? Don't think I've ever seen one in person. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
On Dec 29, 2013 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600. They're both money pits, but I'd rather have the Phaeton--it's rare enough to be a

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-30 Thread clay
Based on the M100 level of tech, the W140 is a technical disaster with massive economic impact to a future owner. The S600 is twice as complex as the standard model, as it would be loaded with bells, whistles and subsystems that can not be hand crafted in the manner one could with a Grosser.

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
Based on the M100 level of tech, the W140 is a technical disaster with massive economic impact to a future owner. The S600 is twice as complex as the standard model, as it would be loaded with bells, whistles and subsystems that can not be hand crafted in the manner one could with a Grosser.

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I would consider the W126 chassis car the pinnacle of MB engineering. I loved my 300SD. Dan On Dec 30, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Based on the M100 level of tech, the W140 is a technical disaster with massive economic impact to a future owner. The S600 is twice as complex as

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: What's so special about a VW Phaeton? You're kidding, right? Every car guy has to know about the Phaeton. It's VWAG's W140 combined with the original BMW 750iL, only more so. Massively overengineered, poorly marketed in the

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dieselhead
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: What's so special about a VW Phaeton? You're kidding, right? Every car guy has to know about the Phaeton. It's VWAG's W140 combined with the original BMW 750iL, only more so. Massively overengineered, poorly marketed in

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I never paid any attention. Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: What's so special about a VW Phaeton?

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: I remember when they came out, but I have no interest in them so I never paid any attention. Well, maybe if they had a TDI version in this country, or if somebody wanted to give me a Phaeton with an unhappy engine and a Toerag TDI that some fool rolled at freeway speeds in

[MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
For the price it's not bad the engine is worth it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Base-Sedan-4-Door-1999-mercedes-benz-s-600-base-sedan-4-door-6-0-l-good-/350964744018?forcerrptr=truehash=item51b720ff52item=350964744018pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 29, 2013 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600. They're both money pits, but I'd rather have the Phaeton--it's rare enough to be a future