Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
And frightens away any snakes, too? -D > On Nov 26, 2023, at 7:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On the other hand, the hissing helps drown out any tinnitus one has. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Built in leaks that you can chase for the rest of your life, or until you burn the shop down. Terrific idea. /sarcasm... -Curt On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:37:45 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for >> your shop >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Pex-Al-Pex is what the air line kit I bought uses. I think the fittings were special. I don't think that something that can explode and send srapnel in the shop is a place to save mmoney, though I did shop for the least expensive solution. On Friday, November 24th, 2023 at 5:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that > while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number > of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure. > > What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider using > PEX-AL-PEX, which is PEX with an internal aluminum core. It doesn’t appear to > be all that expensive, but I didn’t look to see if it requires special > fittings or can use standard PEX fittings. 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be > around $140, which doesn’t seem that expensive compared to other materials, > like copper or iron pipe. > > -D > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex > > fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. > > > > On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use > > > SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on > > > the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really > > > quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need > > > or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. > > > > > > Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. > > > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX > > > > fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as > > > > the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change > > > > something. > > > > > > > > I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my > > > > garage too. > > > > > > > > I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the > > > > cottage with no issues so far. > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't > > > > > reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've > > > > > never tried it. > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit > > > > > > fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this > > > > > > will be cheaper. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Typo. 1/2” (one half inch). -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that >> expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. > > 12" ?? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 23:37:43 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" wrote: > 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that > expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. 12" ?? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
I just did some cursory searching, and the general consensus seems to be that while you can use PEX for air lines, it’s not considered ideal for a number of reasons, most of which seem to focus on permeability and burst pressure. What many of the articles do suggest, however, is to consider using PEX-AL-PEX, which is PEX with an internal aluminum core. It doesn’t appear to be all that expensive, but I didn’t look to see if it requires special fittings or can use standard PEX fittings. 300’ of 12” PEX-AL-PEX looks to be around $140, which doesn’t seem that expensive compared to other materials, like copper or iron pipe. -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex fittings > and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. > > On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use >> SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on >> the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. >> It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a >> kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. >> >> Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. >> >> -D >> >>> On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX >>> fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the >>> cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. >>> >>> I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my >>> garage too. >>> >>> I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage >>> with no issues so far. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings > along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. > > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yea I think you are right, it will be much cheaper using regular pex fittings and buying the crimp tool and rings off amazon. On 11/24/2023 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. -D On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too. I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far. Randy On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
I would tend to believe it would be cost-prohibitive as well to use SharkBite fittings. They seem to average about $10-$20/each, depending on the type of fitting or valve. That could get real expensive, really quick. It’s got to be cheaper and easier to just spec out what you need or buy a kit from the companies that do this sort of thing. Sometimes, even if it saves some money, DIY is not the way to go. -D > On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX > fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the > cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. > > I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my > garage too. > > I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage > with no issues so far. > > Randy > > On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: >> Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably >> hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along >>> with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. >>> >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
3/4″ Fastpipe 230FT Master Kitrapidairproducts.comKaleb, have you looked at Rapid Air? I asked my engineer son-in-law what he would use and he recommended this company. They have various kits or you can use the site to build your own system. Michael E. EshOn Nov 24, 2023, at 12:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something.I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too.I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far.RandyOn 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it.On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper.___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
And, shark bite fittings tend to be expensive. I think I would use PEX fittings and the crimp rings. You will need the crimp tool as well as the cutter for removing rings when you mess up or decide to change something. I have not used them for air but I probably should install a line in my garage too. I have used PEX for changes to the water lines at my house and the cottage with no issues so far. Randy On 24/11/2023 10:13 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote: Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Good luck with that - in my experience, shark bite fittings don't reliably hold 60psi water, much less 100+ psi of air though I've never tried it. On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along > with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: > > > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for > > > your shop > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 > > > > > inch lines. > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > > > > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > > > > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > > > > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at > > > > > > least > > > > > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I > > > > > > will > > > > > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > > > > > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big > > > > > > retractable > > > > > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps > > > > > > along > > > > > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario > > > > > > where > > > > > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" > > > > > > appears > > > > > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > > > > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Instead of a kit I think I’m going to use pex and shark bit fittings along with ball valves I already have. It appears this will be cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for >> your shop >> >> >> >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yea well I’m finally getting around to it, maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:30 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for > your shop > > > > >> On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: >>> >>> Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch >>> lines. >>> On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
The kit - I sent you a link to it last time you asked about air lines for your shop On Thursday, November 23rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch > > lines. > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via > > > Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > > > > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > > > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > > > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > > > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > > > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > > > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > > > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
What lines did you use? Iron pipe or one of those kits? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 8:14 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes > wrote: > > Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch > lines. > > > > >> On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least >> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will >> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the >> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable >> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along >> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where >> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. >> >> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Your tools use volume of air, not just pressure - I went with the 3/4 inch lines. On Wednesday, November 22nd, 2023 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Most of these kits have drain valves in the bottom of each drop/outlet Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you > can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > Fred. > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Have you considered using PEX? >> >> Randy >> >>> On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >>> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >>> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >>> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at >>> least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up >>> to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on >>> one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a >>> big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, >>> or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see >>> a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since >>> its just me. >>> >>> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >>> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >>> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >>> >>> ___ >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Craig, et al. My boss got sprayed and didn't like it. Had to refit drain(s). This despite having a water separator and dryer. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 1:02 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Kaleb. > > From my wet learning experience:- > > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that > > you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > > Fred. > > If you take the air from the top of the horizontal line (with the pipe > looking somewhat like a shepherd's crook) you can avoid having drains at > each connection. > > You do, however, need to have a drain. If you slope the horizontal line > away from the compressor, you can have one drain at the end of the line. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:40:44 -0500 Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: > Kaleb. > From my wet learning experience:- > If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that > you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. > BTDT. Felt like an idiot. > Fred. If you take the air from the top of the horizontal line (with the pipe looking somewhat like a shepherd's crook) you can avoid having drains at each connection. You do, however, need to have a drain. If you slope the horizontal line away from the compressor, you can have one drain at the end of the line. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Kaleb. From my wet learning experience:- If you use drops to each air connection , build in a water drain that you can daily let out the liquid surprises before they occur. BTDT. Felt like an idiot. Fred. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 11:48 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Have you considered using PEX? > > Randy > > On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at > > least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up > > to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on > > one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a > > big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, > > or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see > > a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since > > its just me. > > > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > > > ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Have you considered using PEX? Randy On 22/11/2023 11:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Yep Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 23, 2023, at 12:15 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming > OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening > the main off switch to your compressor. > Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch. > Air leak = air compressor running = continuous running = compressor failure > or motor overheat = shop fire or great expense. > Plus, being able to close pressure to all airlines lets you repair or > reconfigure at any time desired. > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having >> hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of >> those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire >> machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least >> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will >> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the >> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable >> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along >> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where >> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. >> >> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears >> to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or >> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines
Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening the main off switch to your compressor. Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch. Air leak = air compressor running = continuous running = compressor failure or motor overheat = shop fire or great expense. Plus, being able to close pressure to all airlines lets you repair or reconfigure at any time desired. On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having > hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of > those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire > machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least > 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will > then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the > lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable > hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along > the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where > more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. > > Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears > to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or > equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shop air lines
I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop. Tired of having hoses strung all over the place. Probably going to get a couple of those flex tubing kits. I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire machine, tire air hoses etc. My initial thought it I will have at least 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to. I will then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where more than one air item would be used at once since its just me. Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"? The 1/2" appears to be quite a bit cheaper. All of the fittings to any tools or equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
I wonder about PEX? It is more flexible and less brittle than PVC or ABS. Randy On 25/10/2021 11:19 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: https://blog.exair.com/2019/05/01/is-pvc-pipe-alright-to-use-with-compressed-air/ Good info on this site with contact info at the to discuss your project. Is PVC Pipe Alright to Use with Compressed Air? PUBLISHED ON May 1, 2019 by Brian Farno A question arises every now and then on whether or not PVC pipe, yes the stuff from your local hardware store that says it is rated for 200 psi, is safe to use as compressed air supply line. The answer is always the same, NO! OSHA agrees – see their statement here. Schedule 40 PVC pipe is not designed nor rated for use with compressed air or other gases. PVC pipe will explode under pressure, it is impacted significantly by temperature and can be difficult to get airtight. PVC pipe was originally designed and tested for conveyance of liquids or products that cannot be compressed, rather they can be pressurized. The largest concern is the failure method of the piping itself. When being used with a liquid that cannot be compressed, if there is a failure (crack or hole) then the piping will spring a leak and not shatter. When introducing a compressed gas, such as compressed air, if there is a failure the method ends up being shrapnel. This YouTube video does a good job of illustrating how the pipe shatters. While it may seem that it takes a good amount of pressure to cause a failure in the pipe, that is often not the case. I have chatted with some local shop owners who decided to run PVC as a quick and cheap alternative to get their machines up and running. They each experienced the same failures at different points in time as well. The worst one was a section of PVC pipe installed over a workbench failed where an operator would normally be standing. Luckily the failure happened at night when no one was there. Even though no one got injured this still caused a considerable expense to the company because the compressor ran overnight trying to pressurize a ruptured line. Temperature will impact the PVC as well. Schedule 40 PVC is generally rated for use between 70°F and 140°F (21°-60°C). Pipes that are installed outside or in non temperature controlled buildings can freeze the pipes and make them brittle. If you haven’t worked with PVC before or do not let the sealant set, it can be hard to get a good seal, leading to leaks and a weak spot in the system. The point of this is the cheapest, quick, and easy solutions are more often , the ones that will cost the most in the long run. If you would like to discuss proper compressed air piping and how to save compressed air on your systems, please contact us. Brian Farno Application Engineer brianfa...@exair.com @EXAIR_BF Michael E. Esh On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you yank on the hose Consider an el-stupido move like catching a hose on the bumper of a car you're backing out. You don't want your entire air system to go out the door too, dragging your compressor on its side out after you. Where do you _want_ something to break then? Make it happen. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
https://blog.exair.com/2019/05/01/is-pvc-pipe-alright-to-use-with-compressed-air/ Good info on this site with contact info at the to discuss your project. Is PVC Pipe Alright to Use with Compressed Air? PUBLISHED ON May 1, 2019 by Brian Farno A question arises every now and then on whether or not PVC pipe, yes the stuff from your local hardware store that says it is rated for 200 psi, is safe to use as compressed air supply line. The answer is always the same, NO! OSHA agrees – see their statement here. Schedule 40 PVC pipe is not designed nor rated for use with compressed air or other gases. PVC pipe will explode under pressure, it is impacted significantly by temperature and can be difficult to get airtight. PVC pipe was originally designed and tested for conveyance of liquids or products that cannot be compressed, rather they can be pressurized. The largest concern is the failure method of the piping itself. When being used with a liquid that cannot be compressed, if there is a failure (crack or hole) then the piping will spring a leak and not shatter. When introducing a compressed gas, such as compressed air, if there is a failure the method ends up being shrapnel. This YouTube video does a good job of illustrating how the pipe shatters. While it may seem that it takes a good amount of pressure to cause a failure in the pipe, that is often not the case. I have chatted with some local shop owners who decided to run PVC as a quick and cheap alternative to get their machines up and running. They each experienced the same failures at different points in time as well. The worst one was a section of PVC pipe installed over a workbench failed where an operator would normally be standing. Luckily the failure happened at night when no one was there. Even though no one got injured this still caused a considerable expense to the company because the compressor ran overnight trying to pressurize a ruptured line. Temperature will impact the PVC as well. Schedule 40 PVC is generally rated for use between 70°F and 140°F (21°-60°C). Pipes that are installed outside or in non temperature controlled buildings can freeze the pipes and make them brittle. If you haven’t worked with PVC before or do not let the sealant set, it can be hard to get a good seal, leading to leaks and a weak spot in the system. The point of this is the cheapest, quick, and easy solutions are more often , the ones that will cost the most in the long run. If you would like to discuss proper compressed air piping and how to save compressed air on your systems, please contact us. Brian Farno Application Engineer brianfa...@exair.com @EXAIR_BF Michael E. Esh > On Oct 25, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >> always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you >> yank on the hose > > Consider an el-stupido move like catching a hose on the bumper of a car > you're backing out. > You don't want your entire air system to go out the door too, dragging your > compressor on > its side out after you. Where do you _want_ something to break then? Make > it happen. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you > yank on the hose Consider an el-stupido move like catching a hose on the bumper of a car you're backing out. You don't want your entire air system to go out the door too, dragging your compressor on its side out after you. Where do you _want_ something to break then? Make it happen. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would say that the flexible hose is very easy to install. I replaced the PVC because it is rated for water pressure, not compressed air and it was not routed where I wanted it. I have a shutoff valve right at the compressor and shut it off when I don't need the air. There are still a leaks somewhere - it will drop 15 PSI over 24 hours and I don't want the compressor running when I'm not using the air. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a > bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just > figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. > > On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be > nasty stuff and do some serious damage. > > > > -D > > > >> On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> > >> Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > >> ability to use your tools to their full potential. > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > >>> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > >>> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > >>> > >>> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using > and > >>> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > >>> between your compressor and the work location. > >>> > >>> Allan > >>> > >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > >>>> > >>>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >>> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > >>>>> > >>> > https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > >>>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >>> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rick > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Original Message > >>>>> > >>>>> Show Details > >>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > >>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > >>> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > >>> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > >>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > >>>>> > >>>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about > shop > >>>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include > line, > >>>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on > these? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> ___ > >>&
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I've done 3 shops now using schedule 40 PVC pipe, with drain valves below each quick disconnect on a 24 inch stub, and have had zero issues with it. No rust issues with PVC pipe and use the drain valves to blow down the system frequently which keeps water condensate out of the air tools. I also plumbed in a main system shutoff ball valve right at the compressor, and made it part of the daily drill to shut off the compressor circuit breaker and close the ball valve. I do this because I'm often gone for days at a time and I don't want the compressor to run continuously should anything happen with the air system while I'm away. The systems in the first two shops are now owned by new owners, and they are still working with no issues. Compressor working pressure is set at 160 PSI and schedule 40 is rated for burst pressure of 400 PSI for 3/4 PVC pipe. https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/pvc-cpvc-pipes-pressures-d_796.html Just follow the assembly protocol for gluing all the joints and fittings and use plenty of mount clamps so it doesn't sag on long runs and you should be up and running for a long time to come. Tip, always use a mount clamp at each quick disconnect to reduce strain when you yank on the hose from 30 ft away. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:48 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a > bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just > figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. > > On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be > nasty stuff and do some serious damage. > > > > -D > > > >> On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> > >> Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > >> ability to use your tools to their full potential. > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > >>> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > >>> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > >>> > >>> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using > and > >>> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > >>> between your compressor and the work location. > >>> > >>> Allan > >>> > >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > >>>> > >>>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >>> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > >>>>> > >>> > https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > >>>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >>> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rick > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Original Message > >>>>> > >>>>> Show Details > >>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > >>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > >>> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > >>> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > >>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > >>>>> > >>>>> There was some discussion
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Because the galvanized coating can flake off and end up in your tools. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 24, 2021 9:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop air Supposedly galvanized is not recommended, not sure why On 10/24/2021 9:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > What is the "black" in black iron pipe? Is it just some kind of stain or > paint? I know it can still rust. I thought galvanized was recommended for > compressed air. > > Allan > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a >> bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just >> figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. >> >> On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be >>> nasty stuff and do some serious damage. >>> >>> -D >>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your >>>> ability to use your tools to their full potential. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume >>>>> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably >>>>> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. >>>>> >>>>> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and >>>>> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run >>>>> between your compressor and the work location. >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 >>>>>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 >>>>>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and >>>>> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. >>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Original Message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Show Details >>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM >>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; >>>>> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; >>>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> >>>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> >>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop >>>>>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, >>>>>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> T
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You could cheap out and use PEX and black iron or copper. You will have to invest in the tools for PEX tubing though. https://youtu.be/40kHcnGjw78 This young fellow used copper. At the present time, it would be too much money. https://youtu.be/GCLNbb-n_PQ Another couple votes for PEX. https://youtu.be/EPAG5uB9Am8 https://youtu.be/hd7OhsyInkw Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Supposedly galvanized is not recommended, not sure why On 10/24/2021 9:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: What is the "black" in black iron pipe? Is it just some kind of stain or paint? I know it can still rust. I thought galvanized was recommended for compressed air. Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be nasty stuff and do some serious damage. -D On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your ability to use your tools to their full potential. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably 3/8" ID at best, likely less. Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run between your compressor and the work location. Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. Rick Original Message Show Details From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives ht
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
What is the "black" in black iron pipe? Is it just some kind of stain or paint? I know it can still rust. I thought galvanized was recommended for compressed air. Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a > bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just > figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. > > On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be > > nasty stuff and do some serious damage. > > > > -D > > > >> On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > >> ability to use your tools to their full potential. > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > >>> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > >>> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > >>> > >>> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and > >>> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > >>> between your compressor and the work location. > >>> > >>> Allan > >>> > >>> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > >>>> > >>>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > >>>>> > >>> https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > >>>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >>> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rick > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Original Message > >>>>> > >>>>> Show Details > >>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > >>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > >>> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > >>> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > >>>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > >>>>> > >>>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > >>>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > >>>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
I may just go with black iron as I originally planned. I pulled out a bunch of it plus the valves from my buddies barn when he moved. I just figured this flexible hose thing would be easier to install but maybe not. On 10/24/2021 7:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be nasty stuff and do some serious damage. -D On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your ability to use your tools to their full potential. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably 3/8" ID at best, likely less. Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run between your compressor and the work location. Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. Rick Original Message Show Details From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
Anybody that tells you "It's just air" has never seen one of those big hovercrafts go by... -Curt On Sunday, October 24, 2021, 08:39:13 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Surprising and not necessarily intuitive how much energy can be stored in gas compression. Look up "widowmaker" split-rim truck wheels (no longer used). Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 8:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be nasty > stuff and do some serious damage. > > -D > > > On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > > ability to use your tools to their full potential. > > > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > >> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > >> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > >> > >> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and > >> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > >> between your compressor and the work location. > >> > >> Allan > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > >>> > >>> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > >>>> > >>>> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > >>>> > >>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Original Message > >>>> > >>>> Show Details > >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > >> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > >> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > >>>> > >>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > >>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > >>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archive
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
Surprising and not necessarily intuitive how much energy can be stored in gas compression. Look up "widowmaker" split-rim truck wheels (no longer used). Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 8:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be nasty > stuff and do some serious damage. > > -D > > > On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > > ability to use your tools to their full potential. > > > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > >> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > >> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > >> > >> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and > >> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > >> between your compressor and the work location. > >> > >> Allan > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > >>> > >>> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >>>> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > >>>> > >>>> > >> https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > >>>> > >>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > >> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rick > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Original Message > >>>> ________ > >>>> Show Details > >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > >> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > >> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > >>>> > >>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > >>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > >>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > &
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
Or that would introduce potential safety issues. Compressed air can be nasty stuff and do some serious damage. -D > On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your > ability to use your tools to their full potential. > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume >> applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably >> 3/8" ID at best, likely less. >> >> Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and >> see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run >> between your compressor and the work location. >> >> Allan >> >> On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. >>> >>> >> https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 >>> >>> >>> On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>>> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 >>>> >>>> >> https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 >>>> >>>> Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and >> stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> >>>> >>>> Original Message >>>> >>>> Show Details >>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; >> okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; >> davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> >>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> >>>> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air >>>> >>>> There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop >>>> air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, >>>> valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, what Allen said. Don't cheap out on things that will limit your ability to use your tools to their full potential. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 6:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume > applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably > 3/8" ID at best, likely less. > > Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and > see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run > between your compressor and the work location. > > Allan > > On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > > > > > > On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > > > > > > Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and > stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > >Original Message > > > > > > Show Details > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > > > Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > > > > > > There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > > > air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > > > valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
I think 1/2" OD would be pretty constricting for any high-volume applications such as large impact wrenches or painting. That's probably 3/8" ID at best, likely less. Look at the highest CFM requirements of the tools you would be using and see what diameter piping you need given the length of the tube/pipe run between your compressor and the work location. Allan On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. > > https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 > > > On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 > > > > Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and stuff. > > Pricy, but it won't fail. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > >Original Message > > > > Show Details > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; > > okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; > > davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> > > Subject: [MBZ] Shop air > > > > There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > > air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > > valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shop air
How would this compare to what OK don got, it is quite a bit cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/Tailonz-Pneumatic-Tubing-Transfer-tubing/dp/B08FQSDNBG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FU5QMQQD9DN4=1=shop%2Bair%2Bline%2Bsystems=1635112355=shop%2Bair%2Blin%2Caps%2C388=8-1-spons=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRFJQTjQzV0E0UThYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzc3NjQ3MktWMDVNUFRVOVJBWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDEzMjE4MklOOTdOREhNQzhQOSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=1 On 10/24/2021 5:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. Rick Original Message Show Details From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-M7500-3-4-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-System-/393637979605?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0 https://www.amazon.com/Maxline-M7500-Master-4-Inch-100-Feet/dp/B005FKYRTU/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=maxline+7500=1635115597=8-3 Ok Don installed this in his hangar with some additional outlets and stuff. Pricy, but it won't fail. Rick Original Message Show Details From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: October 24, 2021 4:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>; okiet...@okiebenz.com<mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>; davesl...@okiebenz.com<mailto:davesl...@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: [MBZ] Shop air There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That was me, and this is what I bought - a 100 ft. kit, then lots of additional fittings, regulators, etc. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FKYRTU/ref=asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 https://www.rapidairproducts.com/rapidair-home-garage On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 4:54 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop > air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, > valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shop air
There was some discussion a while back on one of these lists about shop air lines. Somebody had bought some kits off amazon that include line, valves, etc. Ring any bells? Can somebody refresh my memory on these? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
