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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes_Discussion_List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Thousands "IN THE DAY"  not thousands a day. BTW: List cop sez &qu

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Thousands "IN THE DAY" not thousands a day. BTW: List cop sez "trim thy posts" Curt Raymond June 28, 2017 at 9:31 AM Dad has one that has a pneumatic actuator which is usually referred to as "dangerous" due to the way it suddenly actuates. We're planning to

Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question

have some strong arms. -Curt From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question I have

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rcedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Another thought to consider, and one that I've added to my shotgun experience, is to buy a shell re-loader, save your empty hulls, and load your own with lighter loads [both shot and powder]. A good AA grade hull can be re

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ndation. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann > via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:26 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question >

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] On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Another thought to consider, and one that I've added to my shotgun experience, is to buy a shell re-loader, save your empty hulls, and load your own

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From: G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Another thought to consider, and one that I've a

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Another thought to consider, and one that I've added to my shotgun experience, is to buy a shell re-loader, save your empty hulls, and load your own with lighter loads [both shot and powder]. A good AA grade hull can be reloaded about 6 times [always inspect carefully prior to reloading]. My

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ne 27, 2017 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Thanks, Greg. I wasn't sure if that would be the case or not. I was aware of the difference and preference for chokes based on prior outings with shooters far more experienced than I. This being said, what, if any, advantage does

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the versatility of removable choke tubes. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan--- via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Thanks, Greg. I

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t; To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Thanks, Grant. As I mentioned, I've got a coach that will fit me and set up the gun. He's certif

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Thanks, Grant. As I mentioned, I've got a coach that will fit me and set up the gun. He's certified by the CPSA in the UK and the NSSF in the USA and does a really good job. I'll get a butt pad fitted once I find a gun. Thanks to you, Clay, MMM, Greg and others for the information! Hopefully

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linder and modified. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan--- via > Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:32 AM > To: Mercedes List > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotg

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...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan--- via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:32 AM To: Mercedes List Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Good point, but not something I'm too concerned about. I shot with both Beretta and Browning 30" barrels for a couple of days str

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ch more important than barrel > length. If you can find somebody who really knows what they're doing for > fitting the stock you'll be way ahead. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: Mercedes List <me

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ll be way ahead. > > -Curt > > > From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sho

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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Good point, but not something I'm too concerned about. I shot with

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Good point, but not something I'm too concerned about. I shot with both Beretta and Browning 30" barrels for a couple of days straight and suffered no ill effects. The extra 2" doesn't add significant weight. I was thinking about it from an enhanced accuracy standpoint. Both guns are a little

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ot;d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question Here's one for the shotgun experts: As mentioned previously, I'm currently looking for a Lanber 12 gauge over/under for sporting clays. There are a number of used models on t

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I'd go with removable chokes, myself. That way, in a SHTF situation, you can install rifled chokes and fire slugs... :D -MMM- On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Absolutely. When in doubt, pinkies out! > > > On Jun 27, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Kaleb

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Absolutely. When in doubt, pinkies out! > On Jun 27, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Are you going to have tea and crumpets afterward? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes

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Are you going to have tea and crumpets afterward? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here's one for the shotgun experts: > > As mentioned previously, I'm currently looking for a Lanber 12 gauge > over/under for

[MBZ] Shotgun Choke Question

Here's one for the shotgun experts: As mentioned previously, I'm currently looking for a Lanber 12 gauge over/under for sporting clays. There are a number of used models on the market I am considering. One of the issues I've encountered is whether or not they can accommodate removable chokes

[MBZ] Shotgun

Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Dan

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Oh geez. If it's like here you should be able to sell it to whoever you want. If you are a poos maybe you should take it to a gun shop and see if they want to buy it. You may get only half value or less that way but you won't have to deal with it since it sounds like you know nothing about

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there really aren't any for you as a private seller the gun range will often sell it as a consignment for you if you liek that more On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point.

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What state do you reside in? You need to know the state laws and a good place to find that information is your local gun store. The owner will be a FFL license holder and should be well versed on private exchanges of ownership , thus a good resource to draw from. You will want to find an actual

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I guess the question is, where would you sell something like this? I assume the online resources like Craigslist don't allow gun sales, although I did see some antique guns there. I'm sure this isn't an antique. The other question I had was how to establish value? I suspect there are online

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Father in law had a shotgun. Don't know more than that at this point. Mother in law wants to sell it. She's bringing it over to me this weekend to dispose of it. I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? When you

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Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In Indiana or Florida you advertise it and sell it. I should have added face to face, not to a minor, and don't mail it out of state unless you're mailing it to a federally licensed dealer. Mitch. ___

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Thanks, Grant. FWIW I live in Florida. There are a number of gun stores in the immediate area. Once I have it in my possession and can identify it I'll drop into one and ask. Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:16 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: What state do you reside in? You need to know

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But he's not in Lakeland Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao

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Yeah, I got that from looking at your gun broker/auction site. Thanks! Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: In Indiana or Florida you advertise it and sell it. I should have added face to face, not to a

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, Grant. FWIW I live in Florida. There are a number of gun stores in the immediate area. Once I have it in my possession and can identify it I'll drop into one and ask. Sometimes if you really don't want to mess with it it can be worth taking 20-25%

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Can't sell guns on Craigslist but there are plenty of gun groups on Facebook you could join to sell it. As far as value depends on what it is. Ifs it run of the mill probably less than $200. If it's something special maybe more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via

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, 2014 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun Dan wrote: I know nothing of the regulations/laws regarding such things. Where should I start? Start in Lakeland. There's a guy there that knows these things and sells parts. mao

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My father in law was not a gun enthusiast, so I really doubt it's anything of real value. Probably something he won while sports betting at the factory where he worked. Damned guy was lucky. Seemed no matter what he played he always won. Dan On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

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Dan, Let me know off list what it is and I'll try to assist you in disposing of it via legal venue. As it happens, I have some expertise available in the field. Grant... On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My father in law was not a gun

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Ahhmnh. have nothing to contribute to this discussion but for the first time in many months a message I posted to the list actually showed up in my MBZ folder, did someone somewhere push some buttons? Perhaps it was a once of fluke? Hendrik who battled the evil telcos today and thinks he won

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Ok Don wrote: We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- However, today, we are blowing North into Kansas. That explains all of the storms and all the red dirt flying around up here. Donald H. Snook In Kansas - not southern, not western, it is the land of Oz.

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was about importing cars. She was reading me the details while we drove back to Winnipeg. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ

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I was wondering if we should warn those in OZ that you might be arriving on their doorstep this AM! On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- However, today, we are blowing North into

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Well actually I am trying to sell a 190E and will be selling my 230E in the near future. I'll put the coffee on and buy some extra shrimps to throw on the barbie. Hendrik living in the land of Oz and very thankful that we don't have to put up with that peculiar game called gridiron OK Don

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, June 05, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells,was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he Depends on where you are I guess. They've still got loads of gun stuff at ours. Or they did 6 months ago when I was there last. -Curt --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED

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Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at Wal-Mart... nbsp; -Curt nbsp; Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 From: E M lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; deserves To: Mercedes Discussion List

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walmart is out of the gun business, no? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at Wal-Mart... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT

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In Atlanta it probably is. They've been closing their urban gun departments, but I think they still sell them here. Gary Hurst wrote: walmart is out of the gun business, no? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure but last I checked there was no

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they shut them down here maybe 2 years ago On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Atlanta it probably is. They've been closing their urban gun departments, but I think they still sell them here. Gary Hurst wrote: walmart is out of the gun business, no?

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I don't think you could ever buy shells at Walmart in Canada? Ed 300E 2008/6/5 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sure but last I checked there was no money in it shells were cheaper at Wal-Mart... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:44 -0400 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT

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MEC get yours at gander Mountain or find a used reloader on craigslist. Herters used to be good too. Only thing that ever made me nervous was setting the primer. Obviously you nave to be sure you have the correct charging par for the powder you use. I liked reloading Winchester AA cases

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i've always just been happy with factory ammo. plus, there is so much choice for the more popular sizes it's hard not to find something you really like. about the only round i use that i feel i don't have enough options is .44 special, but there is still enough to keep me happy. On Thu, Jun 5,

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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells,was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he I don't think you could ever buy shells

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R A Bennell wrote: that one could buy without question. Good thing it is not like that now given the growth of the criminal element and their willingness to shoot each other, us and cops. Yes, it is a good thing that only the criminal element can buy guns. Otherwise their jobs would be

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Depends on where you are I guess. They've still got loads of gun stuff at ours. Or they did 6 months ago when I was there last. -Curt --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS

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that's maybe the main reason i doubt i'll ever leave the south. in much of the US, the idea is that the criminals can be armed to the teeth and you must submit to this as you cannot take the law into your own hands and the citizens just lap it up and beg for more abuse (and they get it!). in the

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--- On Thu, 6/5/08, E M lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: E M lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells, was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 4:27 PM I don't think you

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the south has always been and remains the home of freedom in the USA. thoroughly maligned and utterly disenfranchised, the southerner can still takes solace is his liberty. Aw, Hursty, you always misunderestimate the rural

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Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shotgun shells,was: OT POLITICS that'll give him the mandate he R A Bennell wrote: that one could buy without question. Good thing it is not like that now given the growth of the criminal element and their willingness to shoot each other, us and cops. Yes

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wherever that is, it ain't in california, a state as repressive and oppressive as any. is it some forgotten desert in new mexico perhaps? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the south

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Gary Hurst wrote: in the south, your right to self preservation is understood even by the government. That's why in Georgia they charge high school kids with felonies when their mothers put swiss army knives in the family cars. (mom saw a TV special on car safety, and it was recommended to keep

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there is not a school system in the land that is not drunk with the power of their complete victory and acting accordingly On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: in the south, your right to self preservation is understood even by the

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Good point about Canada. If they don't have dirt cheap shotgun shells in every Walmart and sporting goods store up there, you sure don't want to cross the border with a case of ammo in an attempt to save a few $$. Curt likes MEC, I find a Lee Load-All to be plenty adequate for $40-50. You might

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I still have my 12 ga. and 20 ga. Lee loaders - loaded LOT of shotgun shells with it. Seems it was dirt cheap at the time ('70s). A friend had one for 30-06 that we used during deer season. I hink I still have several pounds of #5 shot (lead) and herco powder - wonder if it's any good now? --

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wherever that is, it ain't in california, a state as repressive and oppressive as any. is it some forgotten desert in new mexico perhaps? California doesn't count. It may as well be its own country for all the attention it

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i'm not really familiar with that part of the world. i guess i just presume that as the northeast and midwest absolutly stifle even talk of freedom, the west joins with california and does the same. good to hear that this is not so! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL

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Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not really familiar with that part of the world. i guess i just presume that as the northeast and midwest absolutly stifle even talk of freedom, the west

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oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was stars and bars during the war, y'know. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL

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What about field artillery? Or what about if you wanna clean out the cobwebs on the 105mm gun in the Patton? Hendrik OK Don wrote: Hey, we have private machine gun ranges here in OK (no man's land)! On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not really

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We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- However, today, we are blowing North into Kansas. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was stars and bars during the war, y'know.

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The US Army Field Artillery Center is at Ft. Sill, OK. The whump of the Howitzer shells North of Lawton blow the cobwebs out of anything with that large a bore. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about field artillery? Or what about if you wanna clean out

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thats no joke OK Don wrote: We consider ourselves Western - we fight on any side we feel like -- However, today, we are blowing North into Kansas. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oklahoma is traditionally considered southern, btw. the injuns was stars