Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread Bill R
ntino Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:50 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C ABSOLUTELY! Prevention and avoidance is always going to be plan "A". But where saving my and my family's skins is the goal I want a plan "B" and "C&quo

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread Wonko the Sane
I hate you.:-) On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:31 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > We have a Smart, or more accurately, SHE owns one. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Fiorentino > > '85 300SD > > '80 240D 4 spd. manual > > '79 300DT (with new crate engine) > > '95 and '97 Crown Vics > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
ual > > '79 300DT (with new crate engine) > > '95 and '97 Crown Vics > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Mountain Man > > Sent: Tuesday, Apr

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread Steve MacSween
pd. manual > '79 300DT (with new crate engine) > '95 and '97 Crown Vics > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Mountain Man > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:54 PM > To: Merced

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C Wonko wrote: > I'd own a Smart in a moment, especially if it was a diesel. Along with you, I would own a used Smart a

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
We have a Smart, or more accurately, SHE owns one. They are quite high on the road so you get good sighlines, plus they are surprisingly zippy, maneuverable and nimble. These factors contribute to safety as much as the multiple air bags and cubic shape. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Luther w

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Luther
Correction, I don't use the phrase "old man", I use "old fart". Please get it right :D Luther, not an old fart :D Wonko the Sane wrote: If I worried for a moment about crashing, I would not ride a motorcycle as often as I do. My last accident was 7/4/76 (t-boned by a stop sign-running Charger

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
When I saw the video, first thing I thought of was my '71 MGB. Airbags? Phhhewww. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > SO if two cars are travelling at constant speed, acceleration is 0, >> therefore Mass X 0 is 0, the force is 0 and the force when the two cars hit >> together i

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
SO if two cars are travelling at constant speed, acceleration is 0, therefore Mass X 0 is 0, the force is 0 and the force when the two cars hit together is 0. Nope! Those two cars (let's suppose them equal for the nonce) stop within the length of their own hoods. Lotsa A required in order to

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
SO, you're trying to tell me the the end doesn't justify the means? Pretty much, no. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change del

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Mountain Man
Wonko wrote: > at what point is the smoking car on either > train filled to capacity? When the bartender opens the Johnnie Walker Blue? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth writes: > Force = mass X acceleration > > Twisted Fizzicks: > SO if two cars are travelling at constant speed, acceleration is 0, > therefore Mass X 0 is 0, the force is 0 and the force when the two > cars hit together is 0. Yes but when they hit there is a lot of accelleration the o

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
And this, boys and girls, is why I took my first degree in music -- no math or science classes required. [All that caught up with me for my second degree, though.] If train A leaves Boston and travels west at 50 mph, and train B leaves San Fran traveling east at 60 mph, at what point is the smokin

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread OK Don
SO, you're trying to tell me the the end doesn't justify the means? No, I've just got a real problem with "official" statements >> that are just flat-ass wrong, even if some aspect of the >> conclusion happens to be right. Would it kill them to tell >> the actual truth? >> >> "Because excit

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Loren Faeth
Force = mass X acceleration Twisted Fizzicks: SO if two cars are travelling at constant speed, acceleration is 0, therefore Mass X 0 is 0, the force is 0 and the force when the two cars hit together is 0. At 08:48 PM 4/14/2009, you wrote: Oh. I thought you had some data to say that the Sma

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh. I thought you had some data to say that the Smart would actually come off the better for the event. No, I've just got a real problem with "official" statements that are just flat-ass wrong, even if some aspect of the conclusion happens to be right. Would it kill them to tell the actual tru

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
Oh. I thought you had some data to say that the Smart would actually come off the better for the event. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I've taken a couple of them in my academic career. Enlighten me. >> >>> "The heavier car always strikes the lighter one with more force, >>

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I've taken a couple of them in my academic career. Enlighten me. "The heavier car always strikes the lighter one with more force, according to the institute." How about "the lighter car always comes off worse in a collision". The forces at the strike time are equal and opposite. Conservation

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
I've taken a couple of them in my academic career. Enlighten me. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > "The heavier car always strikes the lighter one with more force, according >> to the institute." >> > > Crap. Take a physics class, you morons! > > -- Jim > > -- nex

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Jim Cathey
"The heavier car always strikes the lighter one with more force, according to the institute." Crap. Take a physics class, you morons! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
The bow tie sort of gives it away! On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > I think the statistics are still in my favor > and even better if I drive like an olde man. > mao > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man writes: > Along with you, I would own a used Smart anyday - I thought they had a > diesel? I am not impressed with the adv war against the small car - > it is big car detroit out to squash the nimble small car, methinks. > Also, think for a minute - well over 80% of the cars that ha

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Mountain Man
Wonko wrote: > I'd own a Smart in a moment, especially if it was a diesel. Along with you, I would own a used Smart anyday - I thought they had a diesel? I am not impressed with the adv war against the small car - it is big car detroit out to squash the nimble small car, methinks. Also, think for

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Wonko the Sane
If I worried for a moment about crashing, I would not ride a motorcycle as often as I do. My last accident was 7/4/76 (t-boned by a stop sign-running Charger while riding my motorcycle). Maybe I am just overdue for one, but I like to think that I am a successful defensive driver. [Kaleb and Luther

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Rich Thomas
The institute seem not to have studied physics sufficiently to understand force, momentum, energy, and other aspects of a collision. Or maybe they did and did not take Communications 101. The cars strike each other with equal force. What differs is mass, and perhaps velocity, and the respons

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Tom Hargrave
iebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C Rich Thomas wrote: > ouch. > > http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7329117&page=1 "The Smart Fortwo hybrid vehicle, made by Mercedes, went air

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: ouch. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7329117&page=1 "The Smart Fortwo hybrid vehicle, made by Mercedes, went airborne when crashed into the heavier Mercedes Cheap Class. The heavier car always strikes the lighter one with more force, according to the institute." If t

Re: [MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread WILTON
Yep, big surprise - physics will win EVERY time!! ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Smart v. C ouch. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story

[MBZ] Smart v. C

2009-04-14 Thread Rich Thomas
ouch. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7329117&page=1 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.co