Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-06-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 A friend of mine had a racoon in his attic a couple years ago. He could go up 
into the attic and it'd just sit and stare at him. He paid something like $1000 
to have it trapped out. I told him I'd blast it with the pellet gun for free. 
That was before I had a good pellet gun too. In retrospect what I had then 
would have just aggravated it. The one I have now is a .22 moving at just under 
the speed of sound, it'd do the job clean...
-Curt

On Friday, May 31, 2019, 9:30:30 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kleb wrote:
> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-06-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would say a few weeks ago.  The snake might come and go.  I am not 
sure if he has heard the noise continuous or not since then. As long as 
the snake stays up there and gets rid of mice, I suppose all is good.


On 6/1/2019 6:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

How long has your kid heard something at night?  If this started with the
heavy rain and flooding, then maybe the snake's visit will end when its
home is no longer flooded.

If he is a long-term dweller, then there must be a food source nearby.
Eliminate the food source, he'll go looking for another place to stay with
more food.

https://bugspray.com/article/snake.html

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-06-01 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
How long has your kid heard something at night?  If this started with the
heavy rain and flooding, then maybe the snake's visit will end when its
home is no longer flooded.

If he is a long-term dweller, then there must be a food source nearby.
Eliminate the food source, he'll go looking for another place to stay with
more food.

https://bugspray.com/article/snake.html

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-06-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On May 31, 2019 at 9:36 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> They don't chew thru sheet rock do they?
> 

Snakes don't but their dinner does.

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-06-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Both rat (black) snakes and corn snakes are common here. Corn snakes are often 
confused with copperheads, unfortunately. One way to tell if you’re close 
enough is that venomous snakes have slit eyes, like a cat. non-venomous snake’s 
pupils are round.

I’m not sure i would be keen having one in my attic, but my ceiling is sealed 
up tight so I wouldn’t be worried about it getting into the living space.

And again, as Don and others said, it wouldn’t be there if there wasn’t a food 
source. I would much rather have a snake in my attic than mice or rats.

-D

 
> On May 31, 2019, at 10:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s a rat snake. Very good to have around though they can be scary. Can 
> climb trees too to get tree rats and birds. I saw one today about 4ft long 
> crossing my driveway as i was headed out to do errands. 
> 
> Last year I was out in the garage workshop sitting at my bench doing 
> something. I had a broom or something leaning against it, it started moving. 
> WTF. So I stand up to lean over to see what it was and this big corn snake 
> about 5ft long pops up. I think we were both startled. I grabbed another 
> stick and was trying to lift it up and put it outside but it meandered off 
> into my lumber rack. Now these things look a bit like copperheads so this is 
> what I thought it was as I know there are copperheads around, and that really 
> had me scared, the damn thing was slinking around my garage. But turns out it 
> was a good snake so I figured it was keeping the vermin down. 
> 
> --FT
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> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 9:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
>> be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...
>> 
>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
>>> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
>>> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
>>> pillow case or something and relocate him.
>>> 
 On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
 Kleb wrote:
> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
 We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
 was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
 of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
 eyeball to eyeball encounter.
 tin
 
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’s a rat snake. Very good to have around though they can be scary. Can 
climb trees too to get tree rats and birds. I saw one today about 4ft long 
crossing my driveway as i was headed out to do errands. 

Last year I was out in the garage workshop sitting at my bench doing something. 
I had a broom or something leaning against it, it started moving. WTF. So I 
stand up to lean over to see what it was and this big corn snake about 5ft long 
pops up. I think we were both startled. I grabbed another stick and was trying 
to lift it up and put it outside but it meandered off into my lumber rack. Now 
these things look a bit like copperheads so this is what I thought it was as I 
know there are copperheads around, and that really had me scared, the damn 
thing was slinking around my garage. But turns out it was a good snake so I 
figured it was keeping the vermin down. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 9:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
> be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
>> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
>> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
>> pillow case or something and relocate him.
>> 
>>> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kleb wrote:
 Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
 either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
>>> We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
>>> was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
>>> of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
>>> eyeball to eyeball encounter.
>>> tin
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, they don't chew - they swallow whole. Yes, tape up that hole so neither
one of you gets scared.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:36 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I do have a hole in the sheet rock above the stove in the kitchen where
> a hood vent is being installed.  Actually my wifes ex father in law was
> doing it them died of cancer.  I guess I need to finish it up.  I
> probably need to go cover and tape it shut in case the snake finds its
> way in thru that hole.  Otherwise I do not see how he could get in.
> They don't chew thru sheet rock do they?
>
> On 5/31/2019 8:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he
> will
> > be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
> >> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
> >> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
> >> pillow case or something and relocate him.
> >>
> >> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Kleb wrote:
>  Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
>  either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
> >>> We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
> >>> was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
> >>> of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
> >>> eyeball to eyeball encounter.
> >>> tin
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I do have a hole in the sheet rock above the stove in the kitchen where 
a hood vent is being installed.  Actually my wifes ex father in law was 
doing it them died of cancer.  I guess I need to finish it up.  I 
probably need to go cover and tape it shut in case the snake finds its 
way in thru that hole.  Otherwise I do not see how he could get in.  
They don't chew thru sheet rock do they?


On 5/31/2019 8:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
pillow case or something and relocate him.

On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Kleb wrote:

Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
> pillow case or something and relocate him.
>
> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> > Kleb wrote:
> >> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> >> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
> > We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
> > was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
> > of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
> > eyeball to eyeball encounter.
> > tin
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Dan said - we have a few different kinds of black snakes (though none
in the house that we know of) - they are pretty much "rat snakes" - good to
have around. If it doesn't find food in your attic, it will leave of it's
own accord.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous
> snakes. They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he
> must have a food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.
>
> I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving
> around in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I
> suspected it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and
> after a while I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see
> anything.  I then spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like
> whatever it was is between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the
> insulation.  I start poking it with a stick and move the insulation around
> to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a little bit. I
> was able to peel back the insulation where I caught a glimpse of a big
> black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck around long enough to
> see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was time to pack it up and
> head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake has been up there for a
> while as the kid says he has heard something up there at night.  I also do
> not see any signs of mice up there either.  Being out in the country we get
> mice on occasion and I put poison bars up there which knocks them down.
> The bars have not been touched so that tells me there are little to no mice
> up there currently.  I suspect this might be a non poisonous snake that
> eats mice, could be the same as the one I found in the shop last year.
> Should I leave it up there so it can eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How
> do I go about that.  Do I need to call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake
> in the shop is one thing where I can move quick.  Crawling around in the
> attic where I can't move around very fast is a whole different deal.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big 
snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of 
those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a 
pillow case or something and relocate him.


On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Kleb wrote:

Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kleb wrote:
> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea 
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.


On 5/31/2019 8:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous snakes. 
They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he must have a 
food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.

I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.

-D



On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving around in 
the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I suspected it was 
a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and after a while I hear it 
and zero in on the location, but do not see anything.  I then spotted the 
insulation moving around.  It sounds like whatever it was is between the sheet 
rock and the paper backing of the insulation.  I start poking it with a stick 
and move the insulation around to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it 
moved over a little bit. I was able to peel back the insulation where I caught 
a glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck around 
long enough to see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was time to pack 
it up and head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake has been up there 
for a while as the kid says he has heard something up there at night.  I also 
do not see any signs of mice up there either.  Being out in the country we get 
mice on occasion and I put poison bars up there which knocks them down.  The 
bars have not been touched so that tells me there are little to no mice up 
there currently.  I suspect this might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, 
could be the same as the one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it 
up there so it can eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  
Do I need to call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing 
where I can move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move around 
very fast is a whole different deal.


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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous snakes. 
They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he must have a 
food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.

I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.

-D


> On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving around 
> in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I suspected 
> it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and after a while 
> I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see anything.  I then 
> spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like whatever it was is 
> between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the insulation.  I start 
> poking it with a stick and move the insulation around to get down to bare 
> sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a little bit. I was able to peel back 
> the insulation where I caught a glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not 
> see a head or really stuck around long enough to see any markings that I 
> recall.  I decided it was time to pack it up and head out of the attic.  I am 
> thinking this snake has been up there for a while as the kid says he has 
> heard something up there at night.  I also do not see any signs of mice up 
> there either.  Being out in the country we get mice on occasion and I put 
> poison bars up there which knocks them down.  The bars have not been touched 
> so that tells me there are little to no mice up there currently.  I suspect 
> this might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, could be the same as the 
> one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it up there so it can eat 
> mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  Do I need to call 
> somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing where I can 
> move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move around very fast 
> is a whole different deal.
> 
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[MBZ] Snakes in the attic

2019-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving 
around in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I 
suspected it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and 
after a while I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see 
anything.  I then spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like 
whatever it was is between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the 
insulation.  I start poking it with a stick and move the insulation 
around to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a 
little bit. I was able to peel back the insulation where I caught a 
glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck 
around long enough to see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was 
time to pack it up and head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake 
has been up there for a while as the kid says he has heard something up 
there at night.  I also do not see any signs of mice up there either.  
Being out in the country we get mice on occasion and I put poison bars 
up there which knocks them down.  The bars have not been touched so that 
tells me there are little to no mice up there currently.  I suspect this 
might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, could be the same as the 
one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it up there so it can 
eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  Do I need to 
call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing where 
I can move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move 
around very fast is a whole different deal.



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