Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Brian Toscano
Does this mean the quality of Craftsman parts is improving?

About 10 years ago there was a night and day difference between Snap On and
Craftsman.



On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:15:03 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  I have a bunch of Crapsman ratchets, and all are in good shape.
 
  It has been my experience that if you take a ratchet in for
  replacement, unless there is something physically wrong with it, like a
  broken handle, they used to give you a rebuilt kit of sorts, with new
  innards.

 That's been my experience, too.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Toscano wrote:

Does this mean the quality of Craftsman parts is improving?

About 10 years ago there was a night and day difference between Snap On and
Craftsman.


It's a special line of Craftsman, where a single 1/2 ratchet costs $80 instead 
of getting a 155pc set of 1/4-3/8-1/2 for $150 or on sale for $80.


The regular Craftsman stuff, what I bought a few years ago isn't as nice as what 
I bought in the 1980s, and what I bought in the 1980s doesn't feel as good as 
what my dad bought in the 1960s.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Brian Toscano
Yeah, the older Craftsman tools seem much better quality.  It's a shame.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Brian Toscano wrote:

 Does this mean the quality of Craftsman parts is improving?

 About 10 years ago there was a night and day difference between Snap On
 and
 Craftsman.


 It's a special line of Craftsman, where a single 1/2 ratchet costs $80
 instead of getting a 155pc set of 1/4-3/8-1/2 for $150 or on sale for
 $80.

 The regular Craftsman stuff, what I bought a few years ago isn't as nice
 as what I bought in the 1980s, and what I bought in the 1980s doesn't feel
 as good as what my dad bought in the 1960s.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Craftsman were made in Mt. Carmel, IN, along with Snap-On until we got  
globalized and the price went up and the quality went down.


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Brian Toscano
Bummer.

I buy Snap On for anything I use regularly that's less than 1-1/2.

Snap On 5-27 mm just fits better, better ratchets, and eBay has a steady
supply of Snap On tools.  What's the cost of bloody knuckles because the
Craftsman 27 mm keeps falling off the crank damper?

If I'm in a hurry I buy direct, they don't charge shipping.

For hand tools I don't use regularly I may get them from Harbor Freight.
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-06-01 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, the older Craftsman tools seem much better quality.  It's a shame.


You have to get Craftsman industrial tools if you want good quality Craftsman 
tools. Grainger carries them. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-05-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a bunch of Crapsman ratchets, and all are in good shape.

It has been my experience that if you take a ratchet in for replacement, unless 
there is something physically wrong with it, like a broken handle, they used to 
give you a rebuilt kit of sorts, with new innards.

5 minutes with a snap ring pliers and they're good as new.

Dan

On May 30, 2013, at 6:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 According to reviews, this Cman ratchet is as good as Snap On. I have both 
 the 1/4 and 3/8 drive versions.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of batteries/ratchets

2013-05-30 Thread Craig
On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:15:03 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I have a bunch of Crapsman ratchets, and all are in good shape.
 
 It has been my experience that if you take a ratchet in for
 replacement, unless there is something physically wrong with it, like a
 broken handle, they used to give you a rebuilt kit of sorts, with new
 innards.

That's been my experience, too.


Craig

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