We took the 85 300CD to the San Juans for the weekend, perfect time to visit, no traffic, wonderful scenery, no ferry wait, etc. Car ran great there and back at XX MPH with a fresh M1 change and B50. On the return trip I settled back in the drivers seat and twiddled the cruise control which has been dormant for a while now. Heavens to Betsie, it worked! Turn up the Lionel Richie and Duran Duran!
Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 18 21:27:13 2005 Received: from web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.68]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EdDlJ-0000a1-Ob for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:27:13 +0000 Received: (qmail 2799 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Nov 2005 21:27:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RNZt70IARlNasB71nVZ6EZ83+15CoKACyK3SZ3tPKjhXHWAoJ2ecT07RLQLjLffzT9klAyn0ij8GjZ8/G3IQ4/VXtIjUxuo8yr63eR0fFraKwy2fR3Y8knrUmpBH7hE9tUviXAdR1MY2LC0mReAHiU0TXP5Ms6tsvl+NACh//hA= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:27:11 PST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:27:11 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:27:14 -0000 There seems to be a rush to condemn the ball joints now. I've NEVER experienced "clunks on bumps at low speeds" when the ball joints were bad (but if they are REALLY bad they could I suppose). That HAS been a consistent presenting symptom with bad sway bar bushings. had the clunk post sway bar bushing replacement, isolated the ball joints with water test, changed the ball joints, no more clunk. Just my experience, YMMV CHris Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Peterson wrote: > Regarding my front end clunk on bumps at low speeds, someone suggested that > I check / replace the front anti-sway bar bushings. Parts are cheap, $30, > and it is DIY job. Does anyone think this could be the clunk (dealer says > new control arms and bushings but I doubt this at 74k) I am trying to get > rid of? Any way to test the anti-sway bushings? I found the rubber hard, > but not rock hard. It is very hard to tell where front end sounds are > coming from There seems to be a rush to condemn the ball joints now. I've NEVER experienced "clunks on bumps at low speeds" when the ball joints were bad (but if they are REALLY bad they could I suppose). That HAS been a consistent presenting symptom with bad sway bar bushings. Bad ball joints (as well as bad rear suspension links) do permit the front end to seem "nervous" requiring a lot of attention when driving at highway speeds. In my experience, ball joints outlast sway bar bushings by at least 3:1. Control arm bushings and ball joints usually last AT LEAST 200kmi miles (and can last a lot longer if you drive 20+kmi a year). Early sway bar bushings however, often failed after 4-6 years and even the revised ones might not be expected to last more than 100-150kmi. I have revised bushings on two cars, but they don't have even 75kmi on them and that's true of MOST people that have replaced the bushings on 124s. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 209K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 18 21:37:15 2005 Received: from mordred.punk.net ([216.218.194.216]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1EdDv1-0001ct-MY for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:37:15 +0000 Received: from mordred.punk.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jAILb7Tf047960 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mordred.punk.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id jAILb7bJ047959 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:37:07 -0800 From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Sway Bar Bushings? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:37:16 -0000 On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 03:56:42PM -0500, Marshall Booth wrote: > There seems to be a rush to condemn the ball joints now. I've NEVER > experienced "clunks on bumps at low speeds" when the ball joints were > bad (but if they are REALLY bad they could I suppose). That HAS been a > consistent presenting symptom with bad sway bar bushings. Bad ball > joints (as well as bad rear suspension links) do permit the front end to > seem "nervous" requiring a lot of attention when driving at highway > speeds. The clunk in my 190D didn't go away after a ball joint failed catastrophically and the LCA was replaced. When I got around to replacing the front struts, the clunk was history. Car's mileage is irrelevant because the replaced struts were KYBs. (WHY?) K