Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-23 Thread redghost
Around Seattle there are a few tear down to McMansion, but more likely 
to end up taking a nice cottage out and installing some townhome 
things.  We end up with six homes on a lot that had a nice 800 sq ft 
cottage.  All pavement and stair with no yard


On Friday, May 19, 2006, at 02:45 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:



From: "Curt
 I've been seeing the throwaway mentality even during my house 
search. We
looked at several >houses I was interested in that the realtors said 
"Oh

you'd be better to just tear this down and build a >new one.

This is EXCEEDINGLY common in the Chicagoland suburbs. An older home 
will be

purchased on an average lot (1/4 -1/2 acre) for say, 400K or so. They
auction off what they can of the house, tear down the rest and put up a
McMansion that fills the lot. These things must be mortgaged to the 
hilt. ON
suburb (Evanston I think) passed an ordinance to stop the practice 
because
some of the architects of the community were students of Frank Lloyd 
Wright

and these homes were slated for tear down .

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-20 Thread Desert Rat

Same motivation used with buying big SUV's...but 10 times more wasteful of
our resources.

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I've often wondered what motivates a retired couple to build a 7000 sq.
ft. house with three stories, when you know as well as I that they live
in three rooms -- bedroom, kitchen, family room.  The wag here says
they pay someone to clean -- hope they stay rich!

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I'll buy that, oil prices continue to rise it'll get harder to heat them and 
theres no good way to use an alternate heat source because they've only got 
metalbestos chimneys... I bet if they get some mold damage in them they're 
garbage because they're so tight the mold just hangs and makes people sick.
  Who cleans those houses anyway? The one we've made an offer on is 1100sq ft 
and I'm already thinking it'll be a pain to keep clean.
   
   
  -Curt
   
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Recent Fine Homebuilding magazine says the McMansions will be the 
future teardowns because no one will want them.
Too big and expensive to maintain, heat etc.

Randy B



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I've often wondered what motivates a retired couple to build a 7000 sq. 
ft. house with three stories, when you know as well as I that they live 
in three rooms -- bedroom, kitchen, family room.  The wag here says 
they pay someone to clean -- hope they stay rich!

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-20 Thread Peter Frederick
A Dutch friend of mine referred to American home construction as "war 
emergency housing" -- the shoddy stuff thrown up at the end of WWII for 
temporary shelter.


Most modern US home construction is horrible -- our house is my age 
(50) and isn't great, and it's MUCH better constructed, of materials 
unavailable now (2x12 douglas fir floor joists, for example).


However, the crap built locally during the last big housing boom is 
still standing, much to my surprise, while the older, better materials 
stuff is decaying.  Has something to do with termites and leaking 
roofs, I think.


The McMansions won't survive being abandoned by the rich like the older 
luxury housing, as they cannot be cut up into apartments the way 
housing built before WWII can be.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-20 Thread David Brodbeck

R A Bennell wrote:

Recent Fine Homebuilding magazine says the McMansions will be the future 
teardowns because no one will want them.
Too big and expensive to maintain, heat etc.
  


Some of them seem to be really cheaply constructed, too.  Not built to 
last at all.





Re: [MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-19 Thread R A Bennell
Recent Fine Homebuilding magazine says the McMansions will be the future 
teardowns because no one will want them.
Too big and expensive to maintain, heat etc.

Randy B

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From: "Curt
 >  I've been seeing the throwaway mentality even during my house search. We
looked at several >houses I was interested in that the realtors said "Oh
you'd be better to just tear this down and build a >new one.

This is EXCEEDINGLY common in the Chicagoland suburbs. An older home will be
purchased on an average lot (1/4 -1/2 acre) for say, 400K or so. They
auction off what they can of the house, tear down the rest and put up a
McMansion that fills the lot. These things must be mortgaged to the hilt. ON
suburb (Evanston I think) passed an ordinance to stop the practice because
some of the architects of the community were students of Frank Lloyd Wright
and these homes were slated for tear down .

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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[MBZ] Tear Downs was Re: Tire Purchase

2006-05-19 Thread Rick Knoble


From: "Curt
>  I've been seeing the throwaway mentality even during my house search. We 
looked at several >houses I was interested in that the realtors said "Oh 
you'd be better to just tear this down and build a >new one.


This is EXCEEDINGLY common in the Chicagoland suburbs. An older home will be 
purchased on an average lot (1/4 -1/2 acre) for say, 400K or so. They 
auction off what they can of the house, tear down the rest and put up a 
McMansion that fills the lot. These things must be mortgaged to the hilt. ON 
suburb (Evanston I think) passed an ordinance to stop the practice because 
some of the architects of the community were students of Frank Lloyd Wright 
and these homes were slated for tear down .


Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT