Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-29 Thread Fmiser
 Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 Isn't tofu a breed of cattle?
 Is there something I should know??

Err, sort of.

Tofu is a cheese made from coagulated soy milk rather than
dairy.

Some people claim it is an incredible food.  It has very little
flavor of it's own, so it often get used as a low-fat or veg
alternative to meat. 

Other people consider soy to _not_ be a good food source and so
avoid it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-29 Thread John Reames
And soy is also used to make TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein, aka  
soyas**t)... Which some claim is a good substitute for real meat, ie  
Bacon bits, small beef bits, etc depending upon the brew of artificial  
flavors that are added...


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On May 29, 2010, at 3:29, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hendrik  Fay wrote:



Isn't tofu a breed of cattle?
Is there something I should know??


Err, sort of.

Tofu is a cheese made from coagulated soy milk rather than
dairy.

Some people claim it is an incredible food.  It has very little
flavor of it's own, so it often get used as a low-fat or veg
alternative to meat.

Other people consider soy to _not_ be a good food source and so
avoid it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas

I like soy-lent green.

--R

On 5/29/2010 11:43 AM, John Reames wrote:
And soy is also used to make TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein, aka 
soyas**t)... Which some claim is a good substitute for real meat, ie 
Bacon bits, small beef bits, etc depending upon the brew of artificial 
flavors that are added...


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On May 29, 2010, at 3:29, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hendrik  Fay wrote:



Isn't tofu a breed of cattle?
Is there something I should know??


Err, sort of.

Tofu is a cheese made from coagulated soy milk rather than
dairy.

Some people claim it is an incredible food.  It has very little
flavor of it's own, so it often get used as a low-fat or veg
alternative to meat.

Other people consider soy to _not_ be a good food source and so
avoid it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-29 Thread John Reames
Yeah... How's that for marketing... You'd swear from the name that  
it's made from tvp (of soy and lentil base), and never guess it is  
made of rendered animals...)


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On May 29, 2010, at 12:26, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:



I like soy-lent green.

--R

On 5/29/2010 11:43 AM, John Reames wrote:
And soy is also used to make TVP (Textured Vegetable Protein, aka  
soyas**t)... Which some claim is a good substitute for real meat,  
ie Bacon bits, small beef bits, etc depending upon the brew of  
artificial flavors that are added...


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On May 29, 2010, at 3:29, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hendrik  Fay wrote:



Isn't tofu a breed of cattle?
Is there something I should know??


Err, sort of.

Tofu is a cheese made from coagulated soy milk rather than
dairy.

Some people claim it is an incredible food.  It has very little
flavor of it's own, so it often get used as a low-fat or veg
alternative to meat.

Other people consider soy to _not_ be a good food source and so
avoid it.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread WILTON

Beautiful!  Two awesome machines together!

Wilton

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From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected 
;-)  although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread WILTON
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch vehicle 
several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought the Serial # 
(0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected ;-) 
although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Rich Thomas
That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still doing 
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the same time...


--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch 
vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought 
the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay 
heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected 
;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread WILTON
Yeah, this particular one was built in '62 or '63.  Air Force is planning to 
use its siblings another 40 years.
There's a saying, When the last B-1's and B-2's are dilivered to the 
Boneyard (retired at Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ) a B-52 will pick up the crews 
and take 'em back home.


Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still doing 
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the same time...


--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch vehicle 
several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought the Serial # 
(0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay 
heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected ;-) 
although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
Ever watch a show on TV called Ice Pilots of the North West Territories? It 
is a show about Buffalo Airways out
of Yellowknife. They provide passenger service on a DC3 from WWII era. Also fly 
other old piston powered planes.
Cannot recall exactly what but workhorses with rugged capabilities for landing 
on gravel or grass runways with big
loads. I think one of their newest planes is an Electra. It is turboprop I 
think so uses jet fuel but the rest run
av gas.

Some of those planes are over 60 years old.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:55 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still doing
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the same time...

--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
 BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch
 vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought
 the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay
 heni...@ozemail.com.au
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


 We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected
 ;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread LWB250
Go to Miami some time and take a look at the cargo terminals.  Nearly 
everything flying out of South America and the islands that's not part of a 
major carrier is a DC-3 or something of that vintage.
Still tons of that stuff flying around south of the border
Dan

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From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 3:01 PM

Ever watch a show on TV called Ice Pilots of the North West Territories? It 
is a show about Buffalo Airways out
of Yellowknife. They provide passenger service on a DC3 from WWII era. Also fly 
other old piston powered planes.
Cannot recall exactly what but workhorses with rugged capabilities for landing 
on gravel or grass runways with big
loads. I think one of their newest planes is an Electra. It is turboprop I 
think so uses jet fuel but the rest run
av gas.

Some of those planes are over 60 years old.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:55 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still doing
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the same time...

--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
 BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch
 vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought
 the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay
 heni...@ozemail.com.au
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


 We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected
 ;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Rich Thomas
I got to fly once on the world's highest-time DC3 still in passenger 
service, from Hyannis to Nantucket.  It was awesome, 2x2 seating in big 
old comfy padded leather seats, only about 500 ft altitude for the 30mi 
flight.  I was half-tempted to light up a Lucky and ask the girl to 
bring me a Manhattan (both of which I hate, excluding the girl).


--R

On 5/28/2010 3:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote:

Ever watch a show on TV called Ice Pilots of the North West Territories? It 
is a show about Buffalo Airways out
of Yellowknife. They provide passenger service on a DC3 from WWII era. Also fly 
other old piston powered planes.
Cannot recall exactly what but workhorses with rugged capabilities for landing 
on gravel or grass runways with big
loads. I think one of their newest planes is an Electra. It is turboprop I 
think so uses jet fuel but the rest run
av gas.

Some of those planes are over 60 years old.

Randy

-Original Message-
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:55 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still doing
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the same time...

--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
   

BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch
vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.  'Thought
the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay
heni...@ozemail.com.au
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


 

We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected
;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:
Ever watch a show on TV called Ice Pilots of the North West Territories? 


I've got season one of Ice Pilots - NWT on my hard drive somewhere.
The newest plane mentioned was indeed an Electra, and it was the only turboprop 
mentioned. That wheels-up landing in the flying boat was something else, wasn't it?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
The water bombers are probably newer than the Electra but you are right, they 
tend to concentrate on the age of the
old birds. They also show some newer smaller stuff in the hanger etc but don't 
mention it. The focus is on the
vintage stuff.

Too bad about the hull on the water bomber. They have not mentioned it again 
but then that was near the end of the
season. Maybe they will talk about it next year. Probably pilot error as the 
Turks were training on it at the time.
There was some complaint about hydraulic failure but one would think they 
should have known the gear was not down
if there was a system failure of some sort.

The show gets a bit dramatic about the rampies but is quite interesting. I 
cannot imagine what it must be like to
be the mechanic who has to change an engine out on a remote runway without 
proper equipment. Not sure I would want
to fly on it immediately after the swap. I have done minor vehicle repairs when 
it was cold but nothing so big as
swapping an engine.

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


R A Bennell wrote:
 Ever watch a show on TV called Ice Pilots of the North West Territories?

I've got season one of Ice Pilots - NWT on my hard drive somewhere.
The newest plane mentioned was indeed an Electra, and it was the only turboprop
mentioned. That wheels-up landing in the flying boat was something else, wasn't 
it?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread R A Bennell
I know I am a week late on this reply but could not resist

Wonky wrote (among other stuff)

-Original Message-

Hint to Hendrik --

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu on
the BBQ for you.


NOW I would say that if that did not deter you, nothing would

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:

I know I am a week late on this reply but could not resist

Wonky wrote (among other stuff)

-Original Message-

Hint to Hendrik --

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu on
the BBQ for you.


NOW I would say that if that did not deter you, nothing would

Randy



Wonky's been kind of quiet lately. Perhaps the NG reactivated him to help keep 
those nasty reporters away from BP's mess in the gulf? I'm sure glad we've got 
the most honest and open administration in US history now.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/may/28/oil-spills-press-freedom

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/26/the-missing-oil-spill-photos.html

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:

Wonky's been kind of quiet lately. Perhaps the NG reactivated him to 
help keep those nasty reporters away from BP's mess in the gulf?



Oops, wrong list. Hendrick and Randy should sign up for Banned.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread WILTON

You meant CG, of course.  ;

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:57 PM
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R A Bennell wrote:

I know I am a week late on this reply but could not resist

Wonky wrote (among other stuff)

-Original Message-

Hint to Hendrik --

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu 
on

the BBQ for you.


NOW I would say that if that did not deter you, nothing would

Randy



Wonky's been kind of quiet lately. Perhaps the NG reactivated him to help 
keep those nasty reporters away from BP's mess in the gulf? I'm sure glad 
we've got the most honest and open administration in US history now.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/may/28/oil-spills-press-freedom

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/26/the-missing-oil-spill-photos.html

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:

You meant CG, of course.  ;


Naturally. I just can't believe that BP now owns the Gulf and determines who may 
fly over it, and the CG is now BP's military/enforcement arm.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread John Reames

Wow.

I wonder if it (as a launch vehicle) ever carries its rated load  
capacity? (would that lessen airframe stresses?)


I'd expect that the ones that got heavier use (ie chrome dome) would  
be beer cans by now... (kinda like the earlier variants of the sky  
pigs...)


But they sure have built it well!

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On May 28, 2010, at 13:54, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 wrote:


That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still  
doing useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the  
same time...


--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch  
vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.   
'Thought the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au 


To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than  
expected ;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread WILTON
I seriously doubt that this one ever gets anywhere in the neighborhood of 
its max gross weight of 488,000 pounds as a research launch vehicle.  Yes, 
lighter weight does significantly reduce stresses on it.


74 of the H models, like this one, are in active service by USAF; 18 were 
sent to desert storage at Davis-Monthan, AZ, about a year ago, and can be 
easily and quickly put back into active service.


When I was in H's in '71-75, they had only about 5k hours on them, including 
Chrome Domes (airborne alert missions); now, I think they have about 15k 
hours - still very young airframes when you consider that many Boeing 
airliners have 75k hours and more on them.  That's why USAF can plan to use 
them for another 40 years.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland



Wow.

I wonder if it (as a launch vehicle) ever carries its rated load 
capacity? (would that lessen airframe stresses?)


I'd expect that the ones that got heavier use (ie chrome dome) would  be 
beer cans by now... (kinda like the earlier variants of the sky  pigs...)


But they sure have built it well!

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On May 28, 2010, at 13:54, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

 wrote:

That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still  doing 
useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the  same time...


--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch 
vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.   'Thought 
the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay 
heni...@ozemail.com.au


To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than  expected 
;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Rich Thomas
And if a lot of those hours are spent on long missions and relatively 
few take-offs and landings, that stresses the airframe less.


--R

On 5/28/2010 10:16 PM, WILTON wrote:
I seriously doubt that this one ever gets anywhere in the neighborhood 
of its max gross weight of 488,000 pounds as a research launch 
vehicle.  Yes, lighter weight does significantly reduce stresses on it.


74 of the H models, like this one, are in active service by USAF; 18 
were sent to desert storage at Davis-Monthan, AZ, about a year ago, 
and can be easily and quickly put back into active service.


When I was in H's in '71-75, they had only about 5k hours on them, 
including Chrome Domes (airborne alert missions); now, I think they 
have about 15k hours - still very young airframes when you consider 
that many Boeing airliners have 75k hours and more on them.  That's 
why USAF can plan to use them for another 40 years.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland



Wow.

I wonder if it (as a launch vehicle) ever carries its rated load 
capacity? (would that lessen airframe stresses?)


I'd expect that the ones that got heavier use (ie chrome dome) would  
be beer cans by now... (kinda like the earlier variants of the sky  
pigs...)


But they sure have built it well!

--
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jwrea...@comcast.net
Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On May 28, 2010, at 13:54, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

 wrote:

That's pretty cool.  But the idea of a 40+ year old airplane still  
doing useful work like that is encouraging and disturbing at the  
same time...


--R

On 5/28/2010 1:44 PM, WILTON wrote:
BTW, just checked my Form 5 (flight records); I flew this launch 
vehicle several times while at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 1971-75.   
'Thought the Serial # (0050) seemed familiar.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Hendrik  Fay 
heni...@ozemail.com.au


To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland


We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than  
expected ;-) although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-28 Thread Hendrik Fay

Isn't tofu a breed of cattle?
Is there something I should know??

Hendrik
who is just chomping on some form of bovine meat cooked on the BBQ

R A Bennell wrote:

I know I am a week late on this reply but could not resist

Wonky wrote (among other stuff)

-Original Message-

Hint to Hendrik --

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu on
the BBQ for you.


NOW I would say that if that did not deter you, nothing would

Randy

  



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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-27 Thread Hendrik Fay
We have changed flights and will be coming over sooner than expected 
;-)  although the landing might be a tad rough =-O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qGNEmDMVDUfeature=player_embedded#!

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

She is getting along, has pain but making due.

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Speaking of which, how if Regina recovering?

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

  

It's not flat and open.




  




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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-24 Thread pm7088
I'll give you $500.. 

Never mind, can't afford maintenance the one I have , hope she gets better 
soon. 


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She is getting along, has pain but making due. 

Wonko the Sane wrote: 
 Speaking of which, how if Regina recovering? 
 
 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: 
 
 
 It's not flat and open. 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-24 Thread OK Don
Arizona is working to revive the old west as we speak, with the exception
that they missed the part where Wyatt Erp made everyone take off their side
arms in town ---

You can see the OK Corral in Dodge City, KS - a bit North of OK.

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hint to Hendrik -- the wild west expired 100 years ago. It lives on it tv
 shows, but I worked in my garden this evening where cows once pooped -- and
 the nearest cow was a mile away from me. My entire property was cattle
 grazing land 100 years ago, and my house is about that old.

 The old west is so old that it no longer exists.

 If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu
 on
 the BBQ for you.


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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote:
 who is hoping that you are busy prepping the 240D, have you swapped the
 steering wheel over yet and informed the authorities that during our stay we
 will require everyone to drive on the other side of the road

Yep.
That has been a really good project for us - civil engineering-wise.
We re-built all the fine roads of WI to accommodate them strange
persons gonna drive next month - they job is just about finished.  The
240D was also fitted with a 455cid old buick tri-power and lays rubber
for 20 feet when you mash it.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Have you ever been to the NE oklahoma area?  Its not flat and open.

Mountain Man wrote:

Hendrik wrote:
  

We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
just the usual tourist things.



That is not a bad route, but I think you might be missing some of the
astounding country east of the Mississippi River, including the
Appalachian mountains, the vast farmlands of the midwest.  Tulsa is
too far west to capture much of that, but you will see much open land
farming in OK, CO and some of the dryland farming and ranching out
that way, plus irrigated farming in some of those areas.  The midwest
is the breadbasket of the world - the grain produced here is
astounding, and fundamentally unhealthy these days as the chemicals
and genetic modifications they use are quite questionable.  The
massive scale and vast areas are quite unique to see.  You will see
Rocky Mountains and the Sierras as you travel west from Tulsa - but
the Appalachians are really unique - what mountain range is not
unique.  Wait, that's right - you are traveling through WI for several
days too - that is fine fine farm area - not the open land like IA
where Wonko lives, but beautiful rural dairyland.  Wisconsin is the
cheese capital, however, California has a farm system that is all its
own and a vast and humongous economy - like the 5th largest economy in
the world - that is the one state of California.  You'll have fun -
beautiful country out west - stay rural as much as you can since that
provides much flavor and experience to see what america really is.
America as media pushes you is not america - most of us live rural and
do wildly different stuff in each locale - not unlike AU.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
That sounds like a good itinerary. I was afraid you'd land in Tulsa, visit
Kaleb, fly home, and think you'd experienced the USA.

If you trip gets you to DC, I will give you my son's cell phone number. He
and his wife have a micro-brewery set up in their kitchen. It's a frat boy
sort of thing (he's an MS mechanical engineering but some regions of his
brain still live at the frat house). He's probably give you the grand tour
of the region -- DC, not his brain.

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 Not so, we are landing in LAX then flying to Chicago, spending a few days
 looking around Wisconsin, flying to NYC for a few days and then going to
 Tulsa and then driving across country to Las Vegas, San Fran and back to
 LAX.
 We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
 just the usual tourist things.

 Hendrik


 Wonko the Sane wrote:

 Why, of all places in the US you could have landed, would you pick Tulsa?

 It is going to be like seeing your part of the country from an Aboriginal
 colony point of view.









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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Hint to Hendrik -- the wild west expired 100 years ago. It lives on it tv
shows, but I worked in my garden this evening where cows once pooped -- and
the nearest cow was a mile away from me. My entire property was cattle
grazing land 100 years ago, and my house is about that old.

The old west is so old that it no longer exists.

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu on
the BBQ for you.



On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 I used to work on farms, so there is not a lot of interest in seeing
 fields, tractors and cows. More interested is seeing the wild west.
 Sure we would love to see everything but that may well take a lifetime. We
 don't really just want to sit in the car all day.

 Hendrik
 who is hoping that you are busy prepping the 240D, have you swapped the
 steering wheel over yet and informed the authorities that during our stay we
 will require everyone to drive on the other side of the road


 Mountain Man wrote:

 Hendrik wrote:


 We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
 just the usual tourist things.



 That is not a bad route, but I think you might be missing some of the
 astounding country east of the Mississippi River, including the
 Appalachian mountains, the vast farmlands of the midwest.  Tulsa is
 too far west to capture much of that, but you will see much open land
 farming in OK, CO and some of the dryland farming and ranching out
 that way, plus irrigated farming in some of those areas.  The midwest
 is the breadbasket of the world - the grain produced here is
 astounding, and fundamentally unhealthy these days as the chemicals
 and genetic modifications they use are quite questionable.  The
 massive scale and vast areas are quite unique to see.  You will see
 Rocky Mountains and the Sierras as you travel west from Tulsa - but
 the Appalachians are really unique - what mountain range is not
 unique.  Wait, that's right - you are traveling through WI for several
 days too - that is fine fine farm area - not the open land like IA
 where Wonko lives, but beautiful rural dairyland.  Wisconsin is the
 cheese capital, however, California has a farm system that is all its
 own and a vast and humongous economy - like the 5th largest economy in
 the world - that is the one state of California.  You'll have fun -
 beautiful country out west - stay rural as much as you can since that
 provides much flavor and experience to see what america really is.
 America as media pushes you is not america - most of us live rural and
 do wildly different stuff in each locale - not unlike AU.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Speaking of which, how if Regina recovering?

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 It's not flat and open.


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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-23 Thread Hendrik Fay

Mulling over a side trip to visit you, will keep you posted...

Hendrik  Fay


Wonko the Sane wrote:

Hint to Hendrik -- the wild west expired 100 years ago. It lives on it tv
shows, but I worked in my garden this evening where cows once pooped -- and
the nearest cow was a mile away from me. My entire property was cattle
grazing land 100 years ago, and my house is about that old.

The old west is so old that it no longer exists.

If you get a side trip to Des Moines (Iowa), stop by. I will throw a tofu on
the BBQ for you.



On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

  

I used to work on farms, so there is not a lot of interest in seeing
fields, tractors and cows. More interested is seeing the wild west.
Sure we would love to see everything but that may well take a lifetime. We
don't really just want to sit in the car all day.

Hendrik
who is hoping that you are busy prepping the 240D, have you swapped the
steering wheel over yet and informed the authorities that during our stay we
will require everyone to drive on the other side of the road


Mountain Man wrote:



Hendrik wrote:


  

We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
just the usual tourist things.




That is not a bad route, but I think you might be missing some of the
astounding country east of the Mississippi River, including the
Appalachian mountains, the vast farmlands of the midwest.  Tulsa is
too far west to capture much of that, but you will see much open land
farming in OK, CO and some of the dryland farming and ranching out
that way, plus irrigated farming in some of those areas.  The midwest
is the breadbasket of the world - the grain produced here is
astounding, and fundamentally unhealthy these days as the chemicals
and genetic modifications they use are quite questionable.  The
massive scale and vast areas are quite unique to see.  You will see
Rocky Mountains and the Sierras as you travel west from Tulsa - but
the Appalachians are really unique - what mountain range is not
unique.  Wait, that's right - you are traveling through WI for several
days too - that is fine fine farm area - not the open land like IA
where Wonko lives, but beautiful rural dairyland.  Wisconsin is the
cheese capital, however, California has a farm system that is all its
own and a vast and humongous economy - like the 5th largest economy in
the world - that is the one state of California.  You'll have fun -
beautiful country out west - stay rural as much as you can since that
provides much flavor and experience to see what america really is.
America as media pushes you is not america - most of us live rural and
do wildly different stuff in each locale - not unlike AU.
mao

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[MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Right O the missus has just informed me that all men are fn useless, not 
sure what she meant by that, perhaps she meant to say useful?
Anyway we will be landing in Tulsa on the 17th of June 2010 with a 
Canadair Regional Jet.
Hiring a car (any recommendations there as to best place and model?) and 
then book a room before doing a bit of sightseeing.
Well that's the plan but seeing we men are so useful, we might not even 
make it out of Oz.


Hendrik

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Hey I know how to operate a BBQ, as long as it is right hand drive, 
should post some pictures of my hybrid 5 burner.
Anyway I'll get the missus to remind me of the dates of our travel 
itinerary. I would look them up myself but my footy team is on the 
telly. Goota go.


Hendrik
who bought a box of Miller draft (we spell it draught) beer to get 
used to US grog


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason.  
Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something  Regina will be in a 
C collar so I dont think she would want to though.  I guess I would 
have to do all the work!!





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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Why, of all places in the US you could have landed, would you pick Tulsa?

It is going to be like seeing your part of the country from an Aboriginal
colony point of view.

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 Right O the missus has just informed me that all men are fn useless, not
 sure what she meant by that, perhaps she meant to say useful?
 Anyway we will be landing in Tulsa on the 17th of June 2010 with a Canadair
 Regional Jet.
 Hiring a car (any recommendations there as to best place and model?) and
 then book a room before doing a bit of sightseeing.
 Well that's the plan but seeing we men are so useful, we might not even
 make it out of Oz.

 Hendrik

 Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 Hey I know how to operate a BBQ, as long as it is right hand drive, should
 post some pictures of my hybrid 5 burner.
 Anyway I'll get the missus to remind me of the dates of our travel
 itinerary. I would look them up myself but my footy team is on the telly.
 Goota go.

 Hendrik
 who bought a box of Miller draft (we spell it draught) beer to get used to
 US grog

 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 Oh OK, thats good. I was thinking it was this week for some reason.
  Maybe we will have to have a OkieQ or something  Regina will be in a C
 collar so I dont think she would want to though.  I guess I would have to do
 all the work!!



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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Not so, we are landing in LAX then flying to Chicago, spending a few 
days looking around Wisconsin, flying to NYC for a few days and then 
going to Tulsa and then driving across country to Las Vegas, San Fran 
and back to LAX.
We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather 
than just the usual tourist things.


Hendrik

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Why, of all places in the US you could have landed, would you pick Tulsa?

It is going to be like seeing your part of the country from an Aboriginal
colony point of view.

  





  



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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-22 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote:
 We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
 just the usual tourist things.

That is not a bad route, but I think you might be missing some of the
astounding country east of the Mississippi River, including the
Appalachian mountains, the vast farmlands of the midwest.  Tulsa is
too far west to capture much of that, but you will see much open land
farming in OK, CO and some of the dryland farming and ranching out
that way, plus irrigated farming in some of those areas.  The midwest
is the breadbasket of the world - the grain produced here is
astounding, and fundamentally unhealthy these days as the chemicals
and genetic modifications they use are quite questionable.  The
massive scale and vast areas are quite unique to see.  You will see
Rocky Mountains and the Sierras as you travel west from Tulsa - but
the Appalachians are really unique - what mountain range is not
unique.  Wait, that's right - you are traveling through WI for several
days too - that is fine fine farm area - not the open land like IA
where Wonko lives, but beautiful rural dairyland.  Wisconsin is the
cheese capital, however, California has a farm system that is all its
own and a vast and humongous economy - like the 5th largest economy in
the world - that is the one state of California.  You'll have fun -
beautiful country out west - stay rural as much as you can since that
provides much flavor and experience to see what america really is.
America as media pushes you is not america - most of us live rural and
do wildly different stuff in each locale - not unlike AU.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The Aussie invasion of Okieland

2010-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
I used to work on farms, so there is not a lot of interest in seeing 
fields, tractors and cows. More interested is seeing the wild west.
Sure we would love to see everything but that may well take a lifetime. 
We don't really just want to sit in the car all day.


Hendrik
who is hoping that you are busy prepping the 240D, have you swapped the 
steering wheel over yet and informed the authorities that during our 
stay we will require everyone to drive on the other side of the road


Mountain Man wrote:

Hendrik wrote:
  

We are trying to see the US from more than one point of view, rather than
just the usual tourist things.



That is not a bad route, but I think you might be missing some of the
astounding country east of the Mississippi River, including the
Appalachian mountains, the vast farmlands of the midwest.  Tulsa is
too far west to capture much of that, but you will see much open land
farming in OK, CO and some of the dryland farming and ranching out
that way, plus irrigated farming in some of those areas.  The midwest
is the breadbasket of the world - the grain produced here is
astounding, and fundamentally unhealthy these days as the chemicals
and genetic modifications they use are quite questionable.  The
massive scale and vast areas are quite unique to see.  You will see
Rocky Mountains and the Sierras as you travel west from Tulsa - but
the Appalachians are really unique - what mountain range is not
unique.  Wait, that's right - you are traveling through WI for several
days too - that is fine fine farm area - not the open land like IA
where Wonko lives, but beautiful rural dairyland.  Wisconsin is the
cheese capital, however, California has a farm system that is all its
own and a vast and humongous economy - like the 5th largest economy in
the world - that is the one state of California.  You'll have fun -
beautiful country out west - stay rural as much as you can since that
provides much flavor and experience to see what america really is.
America as media pushes you is not america - most of us live rural and
do wildly different stuff in each locale - not unlike AU.
mao

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