[MBZ] OT An interesting way to kill yourself -- 2012 Motooka j/gl lakester land speed racer, $40, 000

2023-11-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2023-01-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’s a good deal --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 3, 2023, at 10:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/458657236299751/?mibextid=6ojiHh > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > >

[MBZ] This looks interesting

2023-01-03 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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[MBZ] This is....interesting... 1976 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $3, 400

2022-03-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
If those are AMG wheels they are worth quite a bit https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/374327887927076 --FT -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting 2004 Mercedes Wagon E500 - $2, 500 (Columbia)

2021-02-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The only issue I see is the salvage title, wonder what the deal is with that. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:35 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Guy says this is a 4M and is clean inside and out, has no other pics. I > might take a

Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting 2004 Mercedes Wagon E500 - $2, 500 (Columbia)

2021-02-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I do. PM me. > On Feb 24, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Guy says this is a 4M and is clean inside and out, has no other pics. I > might take a little road trip and go look at it. Anyone have an interest? > > > Very clean and dependable garaged kept and we'll

Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting 2004 Mercedes Wagon E500 - $2, 500 (Columbia)

2021-02-24 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Guy says this is a 4M and is clean inside and out, has no other pics.  I might take a little road trip and go look at it. Anyone have an interest? Very clean and dependable garaged kept and we'll maintenanced. Everything works as it should. Fresh oil change and new tires. The only thing this

[MBZ] Could be interesting 2004 Mercedes Wagon E500 - $2, 500 (Columbia)

2021-02-24 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-2004-mercedes-wagon-e500/7281800555.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2021-01-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
You'd think maybe they'd find dealers who would be willing to provide title services as a donation-in-kind. Tax writeoff for the dealer, plus goodwill. More $$$ for the charity. Maybe not enough kind-hearted dealers around? On the other hand if the charity is volunteer-run, it sort of makes sense

Re: [MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Which brings us back to government/charity think: free money beats no money. About 20 years ago, a local fire chief signed a contract with telemarketers. The telemarketers did all the work, and at the end of the campaign they'd cut a check to the FD for 4% of the gross. Which was all well and

Re: [MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I would imagine after their fees, and the copart fees, the check is probably very small. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2021, at 5:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > They don’t care, because it’s essentially free money for them. > > My local NPR station has a guy that

Re: [MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
There was some sort of charity outfit in Houston that would get donated cars and have a live auction once a month at a lot they had in a fairly rough part of town. I went to a couple just for grins. Some of the cars were total junk, others not too bad. I remember some kid and his mother were

Re: [MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They don’t care, because it’s essentially free money for them. My local NPR station has a guy that coordinates these donations. That is, he makes the calls to the service that disposes of the cars/boats/whatever. They never touch or see the vehicle, they just call a service that picks it up,

Re: [MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-01-18 19:51, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Too bad you have to have a dealers license or use a broker for TN https://www.copart.com/lot/53868750/clean-title-1985-mercedes-benz-500-sel-tn-memphis Around here, the donation places don't want to mess with retitling, so they just

[MBZ] might be interesting

2021-01-18 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Too bad you have to have a dealers license or use a broker for TN https://www.copart.com/lot/53868750/clean-title-1985-mercedes-benz-500-sel-tn-memphis ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
That looks like some kind of lorem ipsum keyword generator, intended to match every conceivable search filter so that this ad. turns up on any vehicle search, yet not get flagged and discarded as merely having a crass list of inappropriate keywords tacked at the end. I've seen it before. Or

Re: [MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The sovereign citizen stuff gets caught in our data loss prevention system, so I’ll see it when it hits the fence. It’s amazing to read and doesn’t seem to be totally crazy until you read and parse the whole thing. My Mom got caught up in this garbage years ago and was convinced that she

Re: [MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-10-06 09:59, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Kinda said (sad?) too as the guy was clearly pretty smart but just batsh*t crazy. I believe Theodore John Kaczynski was clearly pretty smart. The batshit part seems pretty well established too. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I was at a trade show of some sort once, this well-dressed, well-spoken guy comes up to me and engages in a conversation, seemed pretty smart and interested in whatever I was flogging at the time.  After a few minutes he says he needs to go look at other stuff but could I take a look at this

Re: [MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This reminds me of the crazy long letters the nutcases who claim sovereign citizenship send in to our clerk’s office to be recorded. https://people.howstuffworks.com/sovereign-citizen-movement.htm -D > On Oct 6, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Read the stuff below

[MBZ] Nice car, interesting car jibberish

2020-10-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Read the stuff below in the description https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/roswell-2019-mercedes-benz-class-560/7208960041.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Those rare moments I am actually in a vehicle this year and use the phone, I tell it I am not driving, but walking. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Allstate has been advertising "pay per mile" plans here, so it's probaby related to that. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes writes: > I paid my Allstate car insurance using their app on my phone. The app updated > at some point. > > When I started it a pop-up prompted me to set up some

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The app gives you the ability to remove or delete “trips” that it records. For instance, if you’re not driving, you can tell it you’re not. You can also disable the app’s ability to phone home, too, if you want. -D > On Oct 2, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > So,

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-10-02 11:34, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I’m using it at present, although grudgingly. Remember, I’m an IT security professional. Why do I use it? Because I get a significant discount with it, like 20%. When your insurance costs exceed $3k/year for two cars, ten bucks is ten bucks,

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
So, when you feel like blasting around with you foot down, you "forget" the phone at home? RB On 02/10/2020 11:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I’m using it at present, although grudgingly. Remember, I’m an IT security professional. Why do I use it? Because I get a significant

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m using it at present, although grudgingly. Remember, I’m an IT security professional. Why do I use it? Because I get a significant discount with it, like 20%. When your insurance costs exceed $3k/year for two cars, ten bucks is ten bucks, as Geddy Lee says. I vetted the app and found that

Re: [MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Big Brother Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 11:17 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I paid my Allstate car insurance using their app on my phone. The app > updated at some point. > > When I started it a pop-up prompted me to set up some

[MBZ] Car insurance— interesting “feature”

2020-10-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I paid my Allstate car insurance using their app on my phone. The app updated at some point. When I started it a pop-up prompted me to set up some “feature” wherein it could track my location and driving behaviors or something. I declined to continue with enabling that “feature” and did not

[MBZ] This is interesting WUZ:It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

2020-03-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Craig via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 10:32 PM: "The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue. Craig Note the date is 2016.   This was predicted.   We've had a "sky is falling" event each year since y2k in 1999.  

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2019-11-09 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Or this https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/714281915755890/?ref=browse_tab_query=Mercedes On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 5:27 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2404168306500307/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2019-11-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No photo of the trunk showing the badge so I am suspicious. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That would be nice > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Nov 6, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2019-11-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That would be nice --FT Sent from iPhone > On Nov 6, 2019, at 8:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2404168306500307/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

[MBZ] This looks interesting

2019-11-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2404168306500307/ Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2019-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Denial needs to trade his Silver Arrow for one. There were only 30 of these, makes it more of a rarity than the Silver Arrow. http://www.oursl.com/NewsLetter/NL0801/1997_SL500.htm Mitch. > On January 15, 2019 at 1:25 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Garish interior! > >

[MBZ] This is interesting

2019-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Garish interior! https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1357978-1997-sl500-la-costa-special-edition.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Meaning that there is no easy way to diagnose engine issues? On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > And no, there are no magickal boxes for these cars for the most part. > > -D > > > On Mar 23, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
And no, there are no magickal boxes for these cars for the most part. -D > On Mar 23, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Avoid any early R129s like the plague. There are numerous reasons why you > don’t want to touch one of these. > > You have been

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Avoid any early R129s like the plague. There are numerous reasons why you don’t want to touch one of these. You have been warned. -D > On Mar 23, 2018, at 12:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Poos needs to weigh in on if it needs the magick box to

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Poos needs to weigh in on if it needs the magick box to diagnose or if it can be sorted through less technical means --R Sent from iPhone > On Mar 23, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Nice color (blau grun?). I wonder what's wrong with the engine? > >>

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nice color (blau grun?). I wonder what's wrong with the engine? On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300sl- > 5-speed/6537466276.html > > >1991 Mercedes 300SL 5 Speed - $3000 > >

[MBZ] This looks interesting -- Poos?

2018-03-23 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1991-mercedes-300sl-5-speed/6537466276.html 1991 Mercedes 300SL 5 Speed - $3000 1991 Mercedes 300sl Very Rare 5 speed 3.0 DOHC 24 valve engine Only 104K miles. This car has been setting for a long time. The engine will start and run but will need

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2017-10-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
This has been posted before, I remember the fender dent and the "paint" rust issue. I'd love to have a garage with one of these and a diesel G-wagon. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2017-10-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
2.3-16s are like 450SEL-6.9s, they have wheels that were only made for them, and in my opinion not having those wheels is a price deduction. Mitch. > On October 2, 2017 at 10:02 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > >

[MBZ] This is interesting

2017-10-02 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1987-mercedes-190e-cosworth/6325795389.html Don't see too many of these, that is probably a reasonable price --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] OT This interesting -- urfkwakes

2017-06-17 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/2017/06/16/theres-strange-reason-all-those-quakes-near-harrison/403563001/ -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
"A substantial portion of the car's value is in new parts" --FT On 5/7/17 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Too late to apologize since you already mentioned it. On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote:

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Too late to apologize since you already mentioned it. On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "Many new parts too numerous to mention" > > --FT > > > On 5/6/17 4:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >> That is the way of cheap MBs! >>

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
"Many new parts too numerous to mention" --FT On 5/6/17 4:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: That is the way of cheap MBs! Floyd Thursby via Mercedes May 6, 2017 at 3:40 PM I had to buy a $20some filter the other day so the cost is already going up

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is the way of cheap MBs! Floyd Thursby via Mercedes May 6, 2017 at 3:40 PM I had to buy a $20some filter the other day so the cost is already going up --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I had to buy a $20some filter the other day so the cost is already going up --FT On 5/6/17 4:38 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: I want you to get it running, then I'll pay you $400 for it! I think it would make a great SDL! Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I want you to get it running, then I'll pay you $400 for it! I think it would make a great SDL! Floyd Thursby via Mercedes May 6, 2017 at 3:31 PM Be careful now! You might get me lamenting the purchase of the $200 300POSEL --FT

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Be careful now! You might get me lamenting the purchase of the $200 300POSEL --FT On 5/6/17 3:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: A us version 300SEL is not far from a 200D automatic -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Especially when it is a euro version. A 107 280SL will outrun the us versions of the 350, 450, 380, and possibly the 560 in american trim. Yuro M110 is a hot engine. (for its day) It is not a 2.3 cosworth as in the 190E 2.3-16, but it is NOT shabby. A us version 300SEL is not far from a

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
nm...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting Oops, I just saw that it has the 280 engine, I was thinking 380.  I wonder how slow that is? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercede

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yuro M110 2.8 is way better than a us M116 3.8! I had a yuro 2.8 I was gonna put in a 111 4 speed. That would have been awesome. Meade Dillon via Mercedes May 6, 2017 at 8:07 AM Oops, I just saw that it has the 280 engine, I was thinking 380. I wonder how slow

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Oops, I just saw that it has the 280 engine, I was thinking 380. I wonder how slow that is? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah kinda spendy but likely fairly rare > > --FT > > > > On 5/6/17 9:00 AM,

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah kinda spendy but likely fairly rare --FT On 5/6/17 9:00 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Hmmm, that is the second Euro model that's been advertised in the last couple years. The earlier car was brown. That would be very nice with the manual transmission, if it has a

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hmmm, that is the second Euro model that's been advertised in the last couple years. The earlier car was brown. That would be very nice with the manual transmission, if it has a high-compression Euro-spec engine. The eternal question: How bad is the rust? At that price it better not have a

[MBZ] This looks interesting

2017-05-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6116986677.html -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting But relatively speaking, those external effec

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But relatively speaking, those external effects are more easily controllable and less damaging to air quality than the combustion of burning fossil fuels On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > The manufacturing of those solar cells is not without

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The manufacturing of those solar cells is not without it's own costs and pollutants as well, and transmission loses from the cells to the hydrogen generators. TANSAAFL. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >> > The Nikola truck is supposed to get

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-07 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: The thing is that the greenies want "no tailpipe emissions" to equal "no emissions" which they don't. I had a huge argument once where my side of the argument was just me repeating "where does the hydrogen come from" over and over. My opponent had no answer, he had no idea where

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
rom: Mountain Man via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mountain Man <maontin@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting Peter wrote: > I always fall down la

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Peter wrote: > I always fall down laughing when people talk about "ecological" electric or > hydrogen powered cars. Fall down laughing is a good thing? The argument FOR electric or hydrogen powered cars might be that the pollution generator is a solitary point source generator rather than a

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
erick via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:16 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting > > Commerical quantities of hydrogen usually come from nat

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-05 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Commerical quantities of hydrogen usually come from natural gas these days. Might eventually be produced by solar powered hydrolysis, but not currently. I always fall down laughing when people talk about "ecological" electric or hydrogen powered cars. Electricity comes from magic,

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-05 Thread clay via Mercedes
Benz and Ballard Energy have sort of teamed up on the Hydro systems. Fuel cell tech is being advanced, but at the club event their rep was not really good about saying where the fuel was going to be coming from. clay > On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I will beg to differ with you. It will rapidly oxidize in, say, a large balloon to which a length of jetex fuse has been attached, thence the whole affair released to float into the sky. Not that I have any direct experience in that regard... nor in the reactionary home production of H->2

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
no If you read the posts, you'd already know that. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 10:26 PM Didn't the H2 inflated Hindenburg explode? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Didn't the H2 inflated Hindenburg explode? On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:35 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, > >

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting - truck weight

2016-12-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Mitch wrote: Payload capacity is everything in a semi tractor. They're paying you to haul their freight, not your own vehicle weight. If you're carrying a ton of fuel and two tons of batteries, you're throwing away payload because total weight is limited by law. Yup. That the reason for

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
r 2, 2016 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen Aluminum powder (not oxide) with iron oxide added for body, in  nitrocelluose lacquer.  Thermite with guncotton, so to speak.  Very,  very, very flammable, and should never have been used without  grounding all the lin

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Aluminum powder (not oxide) with iron oxide added for body, in nitrocelluose lacquer. Thermite with guncotton, so to speak. Very, very, very flammable, and should never have been used without grounding all the linen panels together (they were sewn on with cotton thread, I think). The

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
m> > Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen > > > Floyd wrote: > > > And Hindenberg > > The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not > hydrogen. And hydrogen is _so_ light it is tricky

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wasn't the dope on the fabric aluminum oxide powder or some such? Somewhat like a termite reaction? -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:08 PM Subje

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Methanol is dangerous for the same reason. Craig via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 7:15 PM On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:08:40 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes Yes, hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. That's why the folks at NASA who were working with it had to have infrared

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yep, you are right on! BTW, WWI planes had the same problem and same reaction to heat/flame fmiser via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 7:08 PM Floyd wrote: And Hindenberg The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not hydrogen. And hydrogen

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
It was indeed the fabric, and the nitrocellulose/aluminum powder/iron oxide dope (thermite with a fuse, so to speak). The Deutchland was immediately grounded and the entire covering removed and replaced before she flew again (on the South American route) for this very reason. Needless

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 19:08:40 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Floyd wrote: > > > And Hindenberg > > The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not > hydrogen. Yes, hydrogen burns with an invisible flame. That's why the folks at NASA who were working

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting, Hydrogen

2016-12-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Floyd wrote: And Hindenberg The Hindenberg burned with a visible flame. That is not hydrogen. And hydrogen is _so_ light it is tricky to get it to stick around long enough to burn. My research suggests the dope on the fabric outside of the Hindenberg is the cause of the fire.

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 02 Dec 2016 17:29:35 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, > computers, etc. Granted, the Diesel engine and trans probably weigh a > ton, and the axles probably weigh a ton. > > > Mitch Haley

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
How 'bout the 6 big electric motors? then the cables, controls, computers, etc. Granted, the Diesel engine and trans probably weigh a ton, and the axles probably weigh a ton. Mitch Haley via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 5:11 PM Payload capacity is everything

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2016-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Payload capacity is everything in a semi tractor. They're paying you to haul their freight, not your own vehicle weight. If you're carrying a ton of fuel and two tons of batteries, you're throwing away payload because total weight is limited by law. > On December 2, 2016 at 5:49 PM Curt

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It only takes a little electricity to make a little H2. 1000kg of H2 is a LOT... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is amply available all over the Earph.  It only takes a little electrojuicity

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
We have CNG vehicles because natural gas is too hard to liquify, but this thing will run on liquid hydrogen? Will it be continuously boiling off in a giant Dewar flask? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Mebbe they are gonna use an onboard generator to produce the go-gas. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 2:43 PM These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic matter of the universe from water or something. I'm not sure of the

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
H is not "explosive" It does, however, burn rapidly. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 2:52 PM This is the non--explosive isotope of H2, distilled in Norway from ultra pure fjord waters. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is the non--explosive isotope of H2, distilled in Norway from ultra pure fjord waters. On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic > matter of the universe from water or

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
These guys are apparently gonna put up sun catchers and make the basic matter of the universe from water or something. I'm not sure of the whackonomics of that, and hauling H->2 around the country to truck stops, and putting in big Dewars everywhere the trucks might want to go. I wonder if

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is amply available all over the Earph. It only takes a little electrojuicity to produce H. Up to this point, anyone who has done that small scale has had a visit from MIB in scheawz burbans who tell them stop or else. Jim was not intimidated. Unfortunately the MIB paid off. I have

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yabbut where does all the hydrogen come from cheaply and dependably and in enough quantity to make it work? Frack on federal land, break the H2 molecules off the natural gas? Imported from China? George Soros has cut a side deal with Trump for importing H2 from Russia, as long as H-> stays out

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Jim Ettaro would be proud. (RIP) They may have silenced him, but they can't silence the economic viability of h 2 pow wer. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes December 2, 2016 at 1:05 PM OT

[MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
OT https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/electric-big-rig-startup-nikola-comes-up-with-a-surpris-1789586024 -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

2016-10-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 3, 2016 9:32:50 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >Aren't there E class diesels? > >On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I noticed the SLS

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

2016-10-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You could ask Dave M what was available for SLS. Dan Penoff via Mercedes October 3, 2016 at 8:30 PM I noticed the SLS reservoir. I thought that was interesting. I wonder if it’s all four wheels or just the back? Dan ___

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

2016-10-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Aren't there E class diesels? On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I noticed the SLS reservoir. I thought that was interesting. I wonder if > it’s all four wheels or just the back? > > Dan > > > > On Oct 3, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Max Dillon via

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

2016-10-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I noticed the SLS reservoir. I thought that was interesting. I wonder if it’s all four wheels or just the back? Dan > On Oct 3, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks like it has ASD, or SLS (or both). I wonder if it was "federalized" > when

Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

2016-10-03 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Looks like it has ASD, or SLS (or both). I wonder if it was "federalized" when imported? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 3, 2016 5:45:46 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

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