I bet the VW is rusty and/or has an automatic that doesn't shift right...2001
should be a VE engine which I consider the best choice. If you could jump it
and it ran the engine ought to be worth the asking price.
-Curt
On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 1:43:22 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
$750 for a 'ran when parked' TDI isn't entirely bad if it wasn't
otherwise crappy.
And the free 2.5 W124 has non-zero value.
The fact that the TDI was parked in lieu of fixing the brakes implies
crappy though.
Mitch.
On 2020-12-20 13:35, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
OK when I first saw
OK when I first saw the ad title I thought someone had put an OM617 in a
Beetle, but no -- it's two cars. Two cars with veggie kits that have
been sitting, doesn't sound good. Still, $750 for the pair might be
reasonable depending on the condition otherwise?
On 2020-10-14 10:18, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
This dude is chug gin’ the oil his on damn self.
Where have I seen doors like that before?
Oh, yeah, a friend of mine in 3rd grade had a couple of those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6J3wWE2Pg
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This dude is chug gin’ the oil his on damn self.
Bob R
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> Veggie Oil! 1982 Mercedes 240D
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'drive it home if you are adventurous
no interest etc.
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD).
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI
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Pity
Wilton
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From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:51 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Parts Veggie TD for Andrew
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1288272829.html
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http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1288272829.html
'drive it home if you are adventurous
no interest etc.
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles
strasfogel
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts Veggie TD for Andrew
Sounds like the injection pump dampener screw needs to be adjusted. 10
minute job and it ought to idle smoothly. Good deal!
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Chris Goodwin has a shop in town that he personally has moved from
doing wrenching on customer cars to design and build of the Frybrid
systems. The shop still works on real cars, but also fabricates said
systems. He has made bus swaps, done cars from his own 220D, to his VW
vanagon, and benz
I would be very happy to have Chris do my car. He is local and I could
shepherd the thing. I may not be so willing to try if I did not know
him and lived a few thousand miles away. As I said, he runs a custom
shop, not a big manufacturer. This is one off stuff most of the time.
He has
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] To Veggie or Not
Wow. I am learning lately to wait and consider the options before
jumping on
the information I receive. I have heard from some of you that the
Frybrid
operation is the BEST! And now I hear this! I don't want to deal
You have more empirical data than I do. I did not check heat of fuel
entering IP or much, just sort of drooled at the beauty of the system
and how it fits in all the models out there that show at BioD
gatherings.
On Sep 10, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
I know a person who
Yup - I didn't mean to question the integrity of someone I don't know - just
contrasting the reports that I have read here about Frybrid. Having read
your description of Chris, I have a mental picture of what he may be like -
very talented, not real big into the details of running a mail
Tell you what Chris's business has grown so fast that it is hard for
him to keep up with all the work, this man is a stickler for details.
Of course your going to see people gripe on the forum, but thise are
the same people that I think want instant gratifacation. Custom means
custom.
My .02
my friend's frybrid kit took forever too, but he was very pleased once it
finally arrived. It's real craftsmanship.
Chris
Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell you what Chris's business has grown so
fast that it is hard for
him to keep up with all the work, this man is a stickler for
if he's such a stickler for details, perhaps he should address the
concerns people have had with inadequate heating of the fuel supply. (this
isn't the first or only place i've seen these concerns posted.)
this has nothing to do with instant gratification; more a matter of
improper design
As far as Frybrid systems, the guy makes some impressive looking kits,
but I wouldn't spend another dime with the lying SOB.
The guy has a real bad reputation for taking people's money and not
delivering a kit for 3 months or more.
Knowing that, I considered buying a Davco heated filter from the
Wow. I am learning lately to wait and consider the options before jumping on
the information I receive. I have heard from some of you that the Frybrid
operation is the BEST! And now I hear this! I don't want to deal with the
type of person I've just heard described, no matter how good the system
, September 10, 2006 2:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] To Veggie or Not
Wow. I am learning lately to wait and consider the options before jumping on
the information I receive. I have heard from some of you that the Frybrid
operation is the BEST! And now I hear
I know a person who installed a remote temp gauge right before his IP on the
Frybrid system. It only reached 120F after 15 minutes of driving. He
installed his own flat plate heat exchanger with electric supliment, and now it
runs around 200F. 120 isn't good enough in my opinion, UNLESS you
This is the norm with his customer service. Biodiesel's Girl Mark (Maria
Alovert www.girlmark.com) doesn't understand his lack of customer service, and
she is his close friend.
Luther
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:19:42 -0500, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow. I am learning lately to
Well, a 300D 2.5 Turbo (a great car) at 35 mpg would take 2 years and
three months to re-coup a purchase price of $5,000 in fuel savings
from the increased mileage vs. the truck using your numbers, and
figuring 240 days per year of driving to work (if I didn't screw up
the math).
I'd buy the
And here I thought you were looking for some cooking tips. (Hint -- beans
and rice.)
D.
On 9/8/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe some of you all can help me out.
I'm trying to decide if I should convert my 97 Dodge Ram 3500 to run
on veggie oil using the Frybrid system (no I don't want
I just checked out their web site - I'm impressed.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of LT Don
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 6:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ
If the frybrid is $2300, and a halfway decent 190d (non-turbo) is $2300
(that's very close to what I paid for my 190E 2.3-16v), I'd go for the
190D. Even if we're talking $5-6k for a 300d 2.5, I'd be leaning towards
the car. A good used Cummins motor costs more than a non-pristine 190d
if
Almost makes me wish I was driving enough to justify buying the kit for my
ride. At ~$100/wk for diesel, if you're getting your oil for nearly
nothing the payback is pretty quick. Just heard on another list about
someone who coked his rings running unheated veggie; looks like Frybrid
covers
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On Behalf Of Joe Knight
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 8:24 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] To Veggie or Not
Almost makes me wish I was driving enough to justify buying the kit for my
ride. At ~$100/wk for diesel, if you're getting your oil for nearly
Frybrid is worthless. Won't heat the veg hot enough to be as thin as diesel.
That temp is well over 250F. Buy a OM617 Mercedes and run a mix of diesel or
biodiesel and wvo. As some have said, the 617 can run most anything up to
bannana sluge :D
Luther
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:49:29
You guys all have great points. I know my 350HP truck will last for
well over 500k miles but multiple that with fuel costs and we are
talking about my son's college fund.
I love driving the truck, nice to look at all the pretty girls. But
driving in a sweet looking MBZ would cool too. Plus I
I know of a clean one owner 82 or so W123 with 178K miles on it at my Indie.
Nice car and CA raised. Last I saw it, he was asking 5K for it.
On 9/8/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guys all have great points. I know my 350HP truck will last for
well over 500k miles but multiple that with
I have seen a number of the frybrid systems in the flesh. These are
REALLY NICE. They are a quality engineered system. Unless you are
going to be needing to haul stuff though, I would vote Benz, either
w124 or 201. Use less fuel and be more fun to drive.
On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Rory
On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:32 PM, Rory wrote:
Anyone got any leads on the left coast?
Rory
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/204884101.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/204837633.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/204690577.html
I am glad about this set of posts. I have wondered for some time now which
veg. conversion company was the best. The first one I became aware of was
Greasecar (and i thought it was some $800).
But there seems to be a lot of serious praise for the Frybrid system (ouch,
about three times as much
I know the person who fabricates the system and have seen his
installations in many vehicles. It is TOTALLY SWEET! Not mass
produced or commercial, but custom fit to your vehicle and engineered.
It is professional and not home built looking. Each installation
gets better, as Chris is
The Mercedes inline injection pumps are very forgiving of the
increased viscosity of vegoil. I have no direct experience, but have
heard of the rotary style Lucas/CAV pumps failing, but they tend to
fail on diesel too.
-Dave Walton
87SDL, 94S350, 99E300
On 9/8/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL
Bosch VE (and Yanmar) rotary pumps are fairly fragile as well -- ask
anyone with a Volvo 24DT. Lovely engine when it runs right
Peter
Frybrid systems are the best hands down, PERIOD.
Yeah the searching part is the hardest if I'm going to buy a 190D 5Sp.
R-
Oh yes, I am working under the assumption that you *start and end on
diesel*, thus clearing all the veggie oil out of the lines and the IP for
when the car is not running
Also: when you say you know the person that fabs. the systems, are you
talking about Frybrid?
So this is not just a standard
Maybe some of you all can help me out.
I'm trying to decide if I should convert my 97 Dodge Ram 3500 to run
on veggie oil using the Frybrid system (no I don't want anybodys
else's system) or take that money and buy a Mercedes.
Here are my stats.
I drive 120 miles total to and from work
Frybrid
Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post
about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings
is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg,
that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for
you to break even. Go
Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving
(and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license). But whether or not
my 240D is still on the road at that point is 50/50. I am hoping it will
(rust bucket by then) still be in (rust bucket by then) roadworthy
If you get that new job 20(?) or more miles away, the pay-back will be
porportionaly shorter.
On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving
(and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license). But whether or
not
I am not sure that WVO would be very functional during the winter. I always
thought of that as more of a warm weather sort of experiment. Perhaps with
the right heaters ...
WHOA!!! I DID NOT POST $0.05/gal! I posted
$0.05/mile!!! HUGE DIFFERENCE
I estimate the WVO costs me $0.50/gal (this includes
pickup/filtering/piping/pumping/etc)
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's see -- Luther
OK - the short term memory must be going!!!
AStarting over, the saving is $2.00/gal. $2000/2=1000 gal. saved. If
your 240D gets 25mpg,
that's 25000 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 25 years for
you to break even. You still might live that long!
On 8/25/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL
Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in
around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the
gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested.
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:06 PM, LT Don wrote:
Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I
Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles!
On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to recoup in
around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel). That takes into account the
gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time
A few dozen miles to the PnP and chasing kids all over the place
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:13 PM, OK Don wrote:
Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles!
On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Depends on how often you fill the tank. I would be able to
I probably put about 10 miles a day on my car (work days) and another 100 on
weekends. But that slow, 35 mph max, stop and go driving really drinks down
the #2.
I estimate I buy about $60 worth of diesel per month, which is $720 per
year. Therefore, it would be roughly a 2 to 3 year payback
frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin
to a block heater so you don't start out with a block
of lard-cement when it's -20 in IA. All weather.
--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure that WVO would be very functional
during the winter. I always
thought of that as
time invested - in KC, I think there is VO critical
mass - I meet people everywhere who want to do it, but
complain about the collection (VERY understandable).
Jason (co-worker) and I are working on a high volume
processing system that uses a centrifugal filter (1
micron level). Will be putting up
I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of
Debbie's 190D, too.
On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
frybrid tanks have a heater in them AND something akin
to a block heater so you don't start out with a block
of lard-cement when it's -20 in
if you don't have a long commute, or drive on long
trips, it's not worth it. I put nearly 21,000 miles on
Wulf in 11 months, so I could use it.
Chris
--- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is
about half the cost of
Debbie's 190D, too.
On
Dave
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From: LT Don
To: Mercedes mailing list
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] going Veggie
I look at it this was -- the full kit @ $1800 is about half the cost of
Debbie's 190D, too.
On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann
You are too kind. More likely, I am operating in a parallel universe
whose motto is ready, shoot, aim.
On 8/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
can only use 1 kit per car...maybe you are referring
to a high efficiency (read simply and easy) filtering
apparatus.
Christopher
LT Don wrote:
Iowa women don't normally object to diesel because they have grown up
around tractors. Do the Benz gassers (i.e., a 300E) have the longevity
of the diesel models?
The bottom end of a Mercedes gasser can last almost as long as a diesel,
but the top end (valve guides, valves,
Ouch! That is an expensive rebuild.
As luck would have it, I saw (and was passed by) a black 300E (W124) just a
few minutes ago, on a rural Iowa road. Texas plates, youngish female driver
but the car windows were too tinted to really see her.
Also, the brake warning light came on at the very
Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO my
Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd tank
in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate, has the fuel line and
filters, etc. Best of all, he is a pro mechanic so we'd have
YOU GO BOY!!!
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:42:24 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He has taken an interest in WVO
my
Benz. Says he thinks he has all of the necessary parts to install a 2nd
tank
in my trunk, has an electric fuel pump he will donate,
Can we purchase shares in this endeavor? Don's Iowa Biodiesel
Cooperative -official fuel of the Iowa Symphony.
On 8/24/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
YOU GO BOY!!!
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:42:24 -0500, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just talked to Debbie's brother on MSN. He
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would
STUDY www.frybrid.com - you might want to integrate
some of his parts into your system. THis is BY FAR the
best system available. My co-worker has it 98%
installed in his 300Dt and we're dying to see it in
operation.
BTW, out of 7 permanent
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would
STUDY www.frybrid.com -
URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page.
Mac
worked for me
Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would
STUDY www.frybrid.com -
URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page.
Mac
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To
it works for me...maybe something is wrong in your
part of cyber-space...try it later. It's a great site.
Christopher
--- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I
would
STUDY www.frybrid.com -
URL-o no worko.
Yes, I had a word with them this morning and brought them to task.
KEWL stuff. Price of the kit is maybe just a little large, but not by much,
given what some guys are trying to get for cars they've done backyard
conversions on.
Mac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
worked for me
Steve MacSween
I assume the pic on their catalogue page of a MIG welder with their name on
the side, is meant as a joke.
As with the pic of the shielded 'arm missle' switch? (Though heaven knows I
have always, always wanted one in a car... leftover Bond fantasies from my
youth I guess)
Mac
Even if you
When Jason;s kit came, I think my mouth hung open for
about a minute. It is incredible. I don't think it's
high when you figure that this guy has developped all
this on his own (read ALOT OF TIME) and has to recoup
that. It's very heavy duty stuff and the way it works
is ingenious.
Systems like
I don't doubt it. But I am a cheap old fool, even worse than most of the
cheap old fools on this list as I have to pay for this stuff in Canuck Pesos
(ugh).
More power to the guy, for getting this stuff onto the market.
Mac
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When Jason;s kit came, I think my mouth hung
Chris Goodwin at Frybrid is a great guy and top mechanic in my book.
Works wonders on the old diesels and has them stacked up around his
shop. Good on the new stuff as well.
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:01 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I
Works fine for me. Did you click on the page? That got me in
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:06 AM, Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if you are going to make your own kit, I would
STUDY www.frybrid.com -
URL-o no worko. Google cache only has the splash page.
Mac
There IS a slight delay while Flash or something cranks up.
On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Works fine for me. Did you click on the page? That got me in
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:06 AM, Steve MacSween wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if you are going to
What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration.
He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide
integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming
systems
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 09:12 AM, Steve MacSween wrote:
Yes, I
It is just the purge switch. On the 220D he used the same switch as
for the defog, so it was more OE looking
On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 09:15 AM, Steve MacSween wrote:
I assume the pic on their catalogue page of a MIG welder with their
name on
the side, is meant as a joke.
As with
Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for
reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time
needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO.
On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I like about his stuff is that
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