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2017-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
5, 2017 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun S0mething was wrong.  I don't think I have touched the alternator or belt on the 240D since I put a new alt on, maybe 15 years ago.  I suppose it may be time for a new belt, just "becuz" > Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mail

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2017-02-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
; every time I had the hood open... > > -Curt > > > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: [

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2017-02-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
S0mething was wrong. I don't think I have touched the alternator or belt on the 240D since I put a new alt on, maybe 15 years ago. I suppose it may be time for a new belt, just "becuz" Curt Raymond via Mercedes February 5, 2017 at 8:27 AM MB's alternator

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2017-02-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I once changed all 5 belts on #1 daughter's SL in a hayfield "parking lot" She managed to limp into the event. I got new belts and changed em all. Of course, it was the back ones that broke... Dan Penoff via Mercedes February 5, 2017 at 7:45 AM Actually, the

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2017-02-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago! (for yesterday's 123 fun!) Dan Penoff via Mercedes February 5, 2017 at 7:45 AM Actually, the AC compressor wasn’t bad at all. The worst was the alternator. I went slow and applied some Kroil to the adjusting nut so it wouldn’t break. Found out that

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2017-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
des@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun Actually, the AC compressor wasn’t bad at all.  The worst was the alternator.  I went slow and applied some Kroil to

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2017-02-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Actually, the AC compressor wasn’t bad at all. The worst was the alternator. I went slow and applied some Kroil to the adjusting nut so it wouldn’t break. Found out that the “chirping” I was hearing when I was taking off from a stop was the belts slipping. Did my Sunday morning grocery run

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2017-02-04 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 18:33:10 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > So off I went to loosen all the belts and replace them. Arrgh. All I > can say is if there was a conversion kit to change an OM617 from > fractional horsepower belts to a serpentine belt, I would be all

[MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

2017-02-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Winter has finally arrived in Florida - it was a balmy 78F with no humidity as it’s been all week. Wonderful weather to work on the car… Some background: PO replaced the master cylinder or booster during his ownership, and while doing so slathered brake fluid down the firewall and under the

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2016-12-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Actually, it’s for yesterday and today…. Yesterday I replaced the rear shocks, which were the original Bilsteins with MB numbers on them, with new Bilsteins. Pretty straightforward job, took about an hour, not bad. To be honest I couldn’t really tell a difference, but I don’t drive the car

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2016-11-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ran out for errands at lunch time to pick up some stuff from FLAPS. Got back, got the car in the air and started the differential draining. Went out after work was over, filled it with fresh Mobil1 75/90W gear oil. Noticed wetness around the inside of the left rear wheel/axle, so I started

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2016-11-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 12:32:43 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > Cibies are better than Hellas. But both are significantly better than > sealed beams, so its up to you if you want to spend the extra $$. > > If it were me, I'd put Cibies and these bulbs: >

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2016-11-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:02:39 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Attaboy! Speaking of "Attaboy!", has anyone heard from Wilton lately? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2016-11-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Attaboy! Mitch. > On November 17, 2016 at 8:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Got a little bit of garage time in after I got home. Figured I would take a > stab at the vacuum leak - the system leaks down within a minute or two of > shutting down. > >

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got a little bit of garage time in after I got home. Figured I would take a stab at the vacuum leak - the system leaks down within a minute or two of shutting down. Amazing at how much I recalled amor doing this years ago. Passenger side carpet comes up, the wiring gutter cover comes off,

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2016-11-17 Thread MG via Mercedes
I thought that Gerry was down by Crystal River. That's about a 1.5hr drive from me. About half way from you. Still it would do the car good to go for a little drive so I'll be looking forward to seeing both of you any time. Manfred Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:54:14 -0500 From:

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2016-11-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Yes, thank you for that web link, Jaime. Bulbs are on order. Jon > On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cibies are better than Hellas. But both are significantly better than > sealed beams, so its up to you if you want to spend the

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2016-11-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
SHAKEN, NOT STIRRED! It is a joy to get in the 81 240D, turn the key on, snap the belt, hit the starter and have it shake to life the first time a piston hits TDC. It settles into a nice klatta. The OM603s start nicely most of the time too. So how do we make a fortune selling 240Ds to

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I had a set on my 1970 280S, and they were really lousy as far as function was concerned. They did look nice, however. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 17, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'd like a set of W108 euro lights and fogs for my

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2016-11-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Get the US ones. Trump is our new president so nix the Eurocentric look. On Nov 17, 2016 3:04 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'd like a set of W108 euro lights and fogs for my euro 250S... > > Jaime > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

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2016-11-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'd like a set of W108 euro lights and fogs for my euro 250S... Jaime On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Anybody need US version W108 headlight buckets and lamps? > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >

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2016-11-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
r 17, 2016 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun That link reminds me of something from the late 1980s. I bought a pair of H4 55/100 bulbs from JC Whitney for my 6x8 Hellas. (I'd run 100 high beams in the 7" and 6x8" even if they weren't rated for it, figured a lamp that size had t

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Yes, it's an affliction, for sure. I suffered from this earlier in life, it went into remission, and now I have it full on. Kleb's such a good guy for offering. Unfortunately, that price does not include a title. And it shakes when starts, too. Dan going retro diesel Sent from my iPad > On

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2016-11-17 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan sez: >‎I've got to weigh what I do to this car >based on what I'm going to do with >it. Welcome to MB dieseling‎ disease. It's a struggle not to try to own every nice, or easily restored 123, 124, 126 diesel out there. I am currently battling the urge to purchase this. 

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2016-11-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Anybody need US version W108 headlight buckets and lamps? On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That link reminds me of something from the late 1980s. > I bought a pair of H4 55/100 bulbs from JC Whitney for my 6x8 Hellas. > (I'd run 100 high

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2016-11-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That link reminds me of something from the late 1980s. I bought a pair of H4 55/100 bulbs from JC Whitney for my 6x8 Hellas. (I'd run 100 high beams in the 7" and 6x8" even if they weren't rated for it, figured a lamp that size had to be able to handle the heat if the small ones could handle 60

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Very nice. Thanks for that reference. I've got to weigh what I do to this car based on what I'm going to do with it. I don't want to sink a bunch of money into it at this point. I'm pretty well resigned that it's far too nice to sell to my oldest son, as he'll literally trash it. That would

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2016-11-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Cibies are better than Hellas. But both are significantly better than sealed beams, so its up to you if you want to spend the extra $$. If it were me, I'd put Cibies and these bulbs: http://store.candlepower.com/64205.html Jaime On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes

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2016-11-17 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
The Bosch 7” lamps are garbage compared to Hella and Cibie. That’s what I took off for the Cibie’s. I’m convinced a regular sealed beam would outperform the Bosch. Jon > On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hella big round

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Once I get the car all set up and spiffy I need to do a road trip and see you and Gerry, since you're relatively close to each other. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 17, 2016, at 10:39 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > I'd like to see the difference between my 300TD and

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2016-11-17 Thread MG via Mercedes
I'd like to see the difference between my 300TD and your car. I guess mine has a few more miles on it and may possibly be a bit heavier but still. I need to get down there some time so you can try driving it. Manfred Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 08:31:18 -0500 From: "d...@penoff.com"

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2016-11-17 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hella big round headlights (110,114/5, 123) are GREAT. I started using them in about 1974. Even one per vehicle helps a lot. The advantage of the second is negligible. On many cars and vans, I put one on the right to save money. With normal wattage, no relay needed. I'd not put a frog

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Thanks, Jaime! I looked at a set on Stern's web site the other day and they were lots more. I haven't really done anything since then. Cosmetics are low on the list right now, I want to get all the mechanicals sorted first. Mitch, are the Hellas functionally the same? The Cibies do not come

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2016-11-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I used to buy Hellas in the 1980s, they were about $20 each when the Cibies were $25. Now they're $30 with bulb and free shipping. E-Code lamps were far better than DOT, I bought Marchal once for a Saab 900 when they were $5 cheaper than 6x8 Hella and didn't notice any difference. Do Cibies

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2016-11-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Hi Dan, 7" Cibies are available from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1479389808=8-1=cibie+082440 The price has gone up a bit, but its cheaper than other sources. Jaime On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes

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2016-11-17 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Nothing to report from yesterday in the way of work. My house painter called at 8:00 am and said his crew was on their way (we hadn't scheduled a start date yet) so when I got home I had to spend my time removing all the exterior fixtures as I had promised to do before they started. After that

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2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Fun to watch the old SNL clips. On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I was thinking the same thing, but I believe you have it confused with > Shimmer: > > http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625?snl=1 > > > > On

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2016-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was thinking the same thing, but I believe you have it confused with Shimmer: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625?snl=1 > On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > And a dessert topping too! > > --FT > >

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2016-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
off.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun And it looks like it softens hands, too! Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > Dan inquires: > >>

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2016-11-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
And a dessert topping too! --FT On 11/16/16 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: And it looks like it softens hands, too! Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Dan inquires: ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the

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2016-11-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun Supposed to be good stuff. I'm thinking I ought to get it done on the Golf and Dodge which are both mostly rust free. Lots of places around here doing it now. My great uncle used to get under his cars and paint on used motor oil with a brush. He kept cars fore

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2016-11-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
And it looks like it softens hands, too! Dan Sent from my iPad > On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan inquires: > >> ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage? > > Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a

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2016-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Knoble via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun Dan inquires: >‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarri

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2016-11-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Jon writes: >‎I had the whole car sprayed in a very >nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s >>wishes)  What were his wishes?  Concours quality? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

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2016-11-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan inquires: >‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage? Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it.  http://www.fluid-film.com/ ‎http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146102 Rick

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2016-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
on neglected engines though, its kind of magic. -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MB

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2016-11-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
quot; <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun > > Jon, > > Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might > ask? > > Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage? > > Stanady

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2016-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun Jon, Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, i

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2016-11-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Sorry, no. That's a reference to the resident feline, to which I am the beholden human of choice. If she (Kitty) had her way, the wife would be further down the scratching (pecking) order. SWMBS - she who must be scratched. And fed, and entertained, etc., etc. Dan Sent from my iPad > On

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2016-11-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So your wife is named "Kitty?" Does Marshall Max Dillon know? On 11/15/16 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Enough for the day. Time to play with Kitty and turn in. Dan __ -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large

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2016-11-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Jon, Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might ask? Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage? Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used both. After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. It does

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2016-11-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago!Send pictures! Jon Agne via Mercedes November 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM Bravo! I love days like that! There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and W108. Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked some of

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2016-11-16 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Bravo! I love days like that! There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and W108. Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel. I had the whole car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job

[MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

2016-11-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil sucker before I began. Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter. There was a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the box and inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal