Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread LarryT
. - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68 280S, did not use a pump to keep it pressurized - it was more like a huge shock absorber (about8 dismeter x 12 long) that was mounted above the

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
They were never cheap but occasionally someone is selling a good used one on ebay. On Dec 19, 2007 10:32 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my W108 - a 68

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread LarryT
. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device I think we're talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Gary Hurst
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? I'm guessing suspension movement pumps it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Cathey
How was it powered? Mine didn't have any electric connections? As it bounces up and down it moves the pump piston. Like I said, elegant. The only way the newer system was superior was that it would pump up just sitting there, the older one had to be driven. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Tony Wirtel
Wasn't the OEM (someone like BOGE) pressured to stop selling them so MB could mark them up more? This far out there can't possibly be any IP issues but then again, it would be a small market in any case. A former '67 230s (110 or 111) had a bad one. Tony Wirtel

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I think we;re talking aout different things here. The Hydropneumatic Leveling Device (Compensator IIRC) I talked about being on my

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread LarryT
, December 18, 2007 2:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. Is this a typical nitrogen-charge-behind-a-diaphragm scenario (this would explain

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Peter Frederick
It's a pump system with hydraulic damping using air compressed by the movement of the piston shaft back and forth and an internal valving system to keep the resting position the same. Works great when new, but I suspect they are all long dead by now. Either the seals fail and it won't hold

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Joe Knight
Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail with hydropneumatics. As I recall, when I first saw it the car had been sitting for quite a while and the suspension had leaked down. It pumped right up on starting though and held pretty well at shutoff. Don't know if he ever

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Cathey
Been a while now but Dan Penoff used to have a '62 300SE, a fintail with hydropneumatics. That's different. The leveling device was, IIRC, always called a 'compensator'. Though it was _a_ hydropneumatic levelling device, it was not _the_ hld. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Gary Hurst
/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
hydropneumatic levelling device OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. Is this a typical nitrogen-charge-behind-a-diaphragm scenario (this would explain why they don't last forever) or did

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread andrew strasfogel
Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
He is subscribed here also, I do believe. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader - Original Message - From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device Been a while now but Dan

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device the general feeling is that the springs work for sixes but not for eights. On Dec 18, 2007 7:53 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - When the hydropneumatic levelling device died on my W108

[MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-17 Thread David Bruckmann
OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. Is this a typical nitrogen-charge-behind-a-diaphragm scenario (this would explain why they don't last forever) or did the engineers do something clever? Well,

Re: [MBZ] W108 hydropneumatic levelling device

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Cathey
OK gang, I've looked everywhere and have not found a description of what is inside the hydropneumatic device fitted to W108 rear axles. So far as I know, it's more like a hydraulic bottle jack, I'm not sure if it pumps air or fluid as the thing flexes. I believe its problem is that the seals