Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-04 Thread R A Bennell
I think so. I put a whole new set in a year or so ago when I couldn't get it to go. I had inadvertently run it out of fuel as I was watching for the orange low fuel light to come on and on that occasion it did not light up. Since then, it seems to work fine but I have learned a lesson and no

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-04 Thread R A Bennell
Yes, I admit you folks keep telling me to check them and as I say, when the weather is warm, it runs fine and when the weather is cold, I don't use it so it has been a job left waiting for me. I even bought the fancy special wrenches several years ago and have yet to get them dirty. Randy

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
, 02 Nov 2010 13:54:20 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID: 4cd0504c.6000...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: U

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID: 4cd0504c.6000...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: My setup for the truck will likely involve turning on the aux pump and block heater, then the blower motor once the engine is toasty in order to get the cab bearable. I don't think 400w can do much for the entire cab, but if you leave the defrosters on the stray heat from

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Walt Zarnoch
True, but it'll hopefully get it up at least a few degrees, anything's better than 28 in my book. :) Walt On Nov 3, 2010 2:57 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Walt Zarnoch wrote: My setup for the truck will likely involve turning on the aux pump and block heater, then the blower motor

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 50 F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good and tries to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty slow until it really gets going. I know you folks have told me I need to check my valve

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Lee
Glow plugs working? R A Bennell wrote: My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 50 F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good and tries to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty slow until it really gets going. I know you folks

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-03 Thread Dieselhead
Sounds like your valves are too tight. My 76 300D gets to where it really does not want to start up even at 50 F even with the block heater plugged in. It cranks pretty good and tries to start but often takes several tries and runs pretty slow until it really gets going. I know you folks

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-02 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID:     aanlktik2b6f2wlyh4aynizxja3pjn+vaomw0p9b+e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Run Mobil1 and pencil glow plugs

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: U, no. BTDT got the t-shirt. At -10F a 616 is iffy, at -20F it will not start Mobil 1 be dammed. That was with my '83 240D, the starter just can't spin the engine fast enough long enough to start at that temp. Did you ever try the hair dryer in the intake trick?

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
a 1/2 drive breaker bar with a 4' pipe... -Curt Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:41:29 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID: 4cced199.4080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-02 Thread OK Don
The 617 in the '76 300D started great with M1 at -5, but would hardly crank with dino oil without the engine heater. ou are right - the 60x engines are a whole different story - great engines all around. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: U, no. BTDT

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID:     aanlkti=3ue_unfyvu+e9jcmdioanaforvov+xgqqj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mitch wrote: Right side, threads go through the block wall and into the water jacket. Yah

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Based on the big fun Jim Cathey had doing the Frankenheap's block heater I bought mine from Rusty but will let my Indy do the install... Actually it depends, if I end up taking the 240D to camp this weekend I'll have a local Indy there do it for half my regular guy's labor

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Dieselhead
Last one I did was on an OM616 out of the car. 5-6 feet didn't do it and trying to hold the engine down to counter the cheater was a real problem. I tried the flame wrench also. Ended up with a 4 pounder and a big chisel, after the flame wrench and 6 feet of cheater didn't work. The plug

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I took a 10 foot section of pipe, a section of hex stock, an impact rated socket, a 3 foor breaker bar, and jumped on it a few times... Walt On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Last one I did was on an OM616 out of the car.  5-6 feet didn't do it and trying

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Gerry Archer
Wonder if you could snake a piece of tubing down into the drain plug area through one of the ports on the front of the engine and then suck out the remaining water/AF? . I once used a heater that was installed in the bottom radiator hose

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Craig
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:41:29 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Based on the big fun Jim Cathey had doing the Frankenheap's block heater I bought mine from Rusty but will let my Indy do the install... Actually it depends, if I end up taking the 240D to camp

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Based on the big fun Jim Cathey had doing the Frankenheap's block heater I bought mine from Rusty but will let my Indy do the install... Actually it depends, if I end up taking the 240D to camp this weekend I'll have a local Indy there do it

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread OK Don
Run Mobil1 and pencil glow plugs - forget the heater (unless it's leaking coolant). I've been amazed what a difference that combination makes in the cold (with properly adjusted valves). On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Curt Raymond wrote:

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
My Indy reports using an air chisel from underneath. He says he had a customer who broke a 1/2 drive breaker bar with a 4' pipe... -Curt Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:41:29 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey
My Indy reports using an air chisel from underneath. He says he had a customer who broke a 1/2 drive breaker bar with a 4' pipe... I used a 3/4 drive socket and a cheater pipe. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
referred to as The Fairbanks package -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:39:38 -0400 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID: 7bdad8ccfded40e4a2f42919ff878...@pc466116028214 Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-11-01 Thread Dieselhead
: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug Message-ID: 4cced199.4080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Based on the big fun Jim Cathey had doing the Frankenheap's block heater I bought mine from Rusty but will let my Indy do the install

[MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-10-31 Thread Ed Booher
The plug that you plug in to heat the block, where exactly is that in the engine. It's not in a cylinder wall obviously, but is it in an exhaust channel? How does it help heat the block? Can it allow exhaust/smoke out? EdB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Ed Booher wrote: The plug that you plug in to heat the block, where exactly is that in the engine. Right side, threads go through the block wall and into the water jacket. It heats the coolant, in turn warming all the water cooled areas of the engine. If it leaks, you get coolant or steam. If

Re: [MBZ] W123 - 240D - Engine heater plug

2010-10-31 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: Right side, threads go through the block wall and into the water jacket. Yah - and it is indeed in there tight. Take your time, get good tool grab on / in the plug - it really does come out. We put one in a year ago. mao ___