Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-16 Thread LarryT
:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Hi Gang - The PV in the manual for my W123 looks identical to the ones I'll be servicing shortly in my W124. I don't have the torque specs for the W123 PVs - are they the same as the ones in my

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-16 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-16 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-16 Thread LarryT
s. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 -- From: "Peter Frederick" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:38 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Actually, if you don&#

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Actually, if you don't replace the copper seals, you usually get one or two that won't re-seal, and then you have running problems. I've replaced two sets so far, but have not replaced the springs. No problems. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread harry watkins
arryT" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Hi Max - Seems like once I've taken the DVs apart I may as well replace the o-rings. Does it not? Also, the o-rings are th

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread LarryT
utions.com/A365706 -- From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:04 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems If you have a rough idle and suspect a DV could be co

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread OK Don
com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:04 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems > > so what all are you supposed to replace? I need to do them on my 606. > I ordered the o rings but that is

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
cedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems so what all are you supposed to replace? I need to do them on my 606. I ordered the o rings but that is it,

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
-- From: "Frederick W Moir" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:19 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry, et al. The socket,(from Rusty I think), that I have is made by Kokon from Japan. P/N 4133.

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-15 Thread LarryT
"OK Don" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:47 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems I've replaced the DVs on three engines now - two 603s and one 602. I removed enough to get plenty of room, and know that the int

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Frederick W Moir
Larry, et al. The socket,(from Rusty I think), that I have is made by Kokon from Japan. P/N 4133. 18mm inside with lots of fine teeth. Call Rusty, he's The Man. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. At 10:14 AM 10/14/2009, you wrote: One more question. Rusty doesn't have the special socket - he

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread harry watkins
It was a 603 on a 300 SDL - Original Message - From: "LarryT" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Thx Harry - I appreciate you telling your secrets ;-) What engine

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems How do you check the EDS without the special gizmos? La

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:33 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems 2nd confession of the day, I used the same method but without the torque wrench the first time I play

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
5706 -- From: "harry watkins" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:29 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry, I hesitate to tell you this because I may get flamed :<). I used the h

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
ot;Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:45 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems I actually tackle the DV's as a 3rd or 4th step, last step would be pull all the injecto

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry, I hesitate to tell you this because I may get fl

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread harry watkins
to my chin. - Original Message - From: "LarryT" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems One more question. Rusty doesn't have the special socket - he suggested As

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
harry watkins Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Thanks Max, sounds like it boils down to a last resort thing. If nothing else cures the problem, maybe a DV upgrade will. I've redone them on two SD

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread harry watkins
Thanks Max, sounds like it boils down to a last resort thing. If nothing else cures the problem, maybe a DV upgrade will. I've redone them on two SDLs and a 300TD because they were leaking externally. The last SDL was a learning experience, the wife was at a friends house and it would not star

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
ubject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems One more question. Rusty doesn't have the special socket - he suggested Assenbachertool but the only one I saw there was a 22mm MB Injector tool - it looks like a hex socket - my memory of the DVs is it having a bunch of teeth arou

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
in there. On my OM603 the intake manifold makes > it a very tight fit. A smaller torque wrench may be required. > > Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT > Sent: Wednesday, October

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
ns.com/A365706 -- From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:03 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry, "Fix i

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
it a very tight fit. A smaller torque wrench may be required. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mount

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
--Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Hi Max -- Thanks *very* much for your experienced su

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
-- From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:43 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Harry, Rough idle can be caused by internal leak at copper washer OR by

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry wrote: >Additionally, they tell me the Injector Se

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
ry very smooth. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Hi Harry - I looked in

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
ns.com/A365706 -- From: "harry watkins" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:28 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry wrote: Additionally, they tell me the Injector Seals are leaking - not in

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-14 Thread LarryT
ent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:28 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems Larry wrote: Additionally, they tell me the Injector Seals are leaking - not internal seals but the O-Ring and copper washer that fits inside the line wher

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-13 Thread harry watkins
Larry wrote: Additionally, they tell me the Injector Seals are leaking - not internal seals but the O-Ring and copper washer that fits inside the line where it exits the IP - so the IP doesn't need to be replaced - only the metal injector lines need to come off and a fitting inside the IP re

Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts & Related Problems

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT
Hi Gang - I ended up taking my 91 300D to the local MB dealer - as in the pas they have provided spectacular service. I had them confirm the condition of my motor mounts - as suggested by those on the list, one MM was partially collapsed. Fortunately, only the drivers side needs to be rep