Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-03-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
They are underpowered for the chassis. #1 boy drives the early w140 version, which gets terrible mileage. May as well get a V8 and power, since you are not saving cash at the pump. That said, you will save on valve related things and heads, since there is but one. The '99 will have good

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-03-02 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
M104 in a w123 with a 5 speed sounds like a very interesting project! Hey wait a minute, I thought you were Mr. Originality!! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The M104 is a wonderful engine. I had one for years in

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
Anyone familiar with the inline six? Isn't it the same v6 as my 1999 e320? The M104 lasted in the 140 all the way to the end. Nice engine but the minimum you'd want in such a car. Unless you can find an S280 with a stick like Princess Diana. Tom ___

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You didn't mention the color, which would be a very important factor influencing whether I would bother to even look. Also, since it's not a diesel, the high mileage is a potential disqualifier regardless of color On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Tom Savage via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The M104 is almost as robust as the OM603, neither has lower end problems at less that 500k miles unless abused. All the troubles I know about are valve train or head gasket related. You should not be able to wear them out in normal use. A six is a bit underpowered for that chassis, but

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It's a SWB as far as I can tell at this point. I haven't attempted to decode the VIN yet. S320s don't seem to bring all that much around here, probably for the reasons one would expect - comparing them to an S500. What I found weird was that Kelley and Edmunds' prices are pretty low on these

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:33:29 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The M104 is a wonderful engine. I had one for years in my 95 E320 wagon. Smooth and powerful when you wind it out. I always thought it would make an awesome engine to swap into something else. I

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Great color and good price. This black LWB '99 S320 with 178K miles is going for $4,700. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-S320-1999-mercedes-benz-s-320-long-wheel-base-lwb-black-on-black-sedan-s-320-/111606982881?forcerrptr=truehash=item19fc4b68e1item=111606982881pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The M104 is a wonderful engine. I had one for years in my 95 E320 wagon. Smooth and powerful when you wind it out. I always thought it would make an awesome engine to swap into something else. Oddly enough, I have an opportunity to buy my old wagon back for cheap, now the the current teenage

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dark Blue. I have two older W140s in my current fleet, both with over 270,000. This has around 180,000. Hardly broke in by my standards. Looks like we might not be able to get together this weekend, which works for me. If it’s still for sale next weekend I’ll be able to drive a harder

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was always very pleased with the M103 powered cars I've had, so I'm sure the M104 is as good or better, especially a 1999 model. I'm not a big one on speed or aggression when it comes to driving, so having the six versus the M119 wouldn't really matter a lot to me. In fact, never having

[MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Anyone familiar with the inline six? I may go to Orlando tomorrow to look at this car. 1999 S320, approximately 180,000 miles, one owner Florida car. Dealer and indie maintained, most service records. Everything works, cosmetics look good, too. I realize the S320 won't have all the bells and

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
They are fine but unless it's cheap they usually are about the same price as a 420 or 500 and get about the same mileage with way less power Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone familiar with the inline six? I may

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They want $2900 but I can probably get it for $2500. Dan On Feb 27, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: They are fine but unless it's cheap they usually are about the same price as a 420 or 500 and get about the same mileage with way less power

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Ok if it's in good shape I would jump on it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They want $2900 but I can probably get it for $2500. Dan On Feb 27, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Only problem is leaking front seals so far as I know, and the fix requires a head gasket, unlike the M103. Haven't heard of any other issues not related to unreliable computers. A bigger job to change a heater core than a W124 though, my brother is most of the way through doing that right

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Anyone familiar with the inline six? Isn't it the same v6 as my 1999 e320? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] W140 - 1999 S320 Opinions

2015-02-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So is this a V6 or an inline 6? I'm confused. Dan On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ok if it's in good shape I would jump on it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com