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Max wrote: A friend looking for a used Toyota Camry locally said that the new car dealers he visited put all their trade-ins for the week in the back lot, on Saturday or Sunday the Auction Guys would come through and make offers/take their pick (to re-sell at the dealer only auction), and what was left over would either be sold at the dealer's used car lot or at the public auto auction. These dealers were not interested in putting any effort into selling their trade-ins, so the best went to auction or got picked-off by the employees. That was pretty much how it worked at the dealership I worked at. EXCEPT, the cars never made it to Saturday. There were several used car dealers that made a pretty good living buying the trade in cars at wholesale and reselling them on their lot. My Uncle did this for years. When I was at the dealership, the Sales Manager and I worked out a deal where I had first right of refusal on all of the wholesale cars. One time, my Uncle went to talk to the Used Car Manager about a car and he was told you have to wait for Don Snook to look at it. The Manager did not know that he was my Uncle. So, my Uncle stormed back and was pretty pissed. He said, I have been buying cars here for 30 years, how did you get first dibs? He ended up thinking it was funny, because if I didn't want it, I would always call him first before the other wholesalers could snatch it up! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: You are talking about wholesalers. They come in, buy dealer trades, then resell them to other indi used car dealers. Depending on the market, they will send them to auction if they are sitting around too long. Depending on how they have them floored, each day they are sitting costs them money. Some wholesalers have their own lot, but for the most part you are right. I sold one of these guys my old 98 regency when I was at the dealership. He bought it from for $1000 and drove it to the auction the next day and sold it for $1250. Not a bad turn around for doing basically nothing. He was going to the auction with several other cars anyway, so it worked great. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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well sort of. Wholesalers themselves do not have lots, wholesalers cant sell to the public, at least not in OK. Some of the used car dealers do their own buying and go around to the franchise stores looking to buy their trades. Many others just buy from the wholesalers. It really comes down to if they have time to do the footwork themselves or use the wholesalers to get their cars. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: You are talking about wholesalers. They come in, buy dealer trades, then resell them to other indi used car dealers. Depending on the market, they will send them to auction if they are sitting around too long. Depending on how they have them floored, each day they are sitting costs them money. Some wholesalers have their own lot, but for the most part you are right. I sold one of these guys my old 98 regency when I was at the dealership. He bought it from for $1000 and drove it to the auction the next day and sold it for $1250. Not a bad turn around for doing basically nothing. He was going to the auction with several other cars anyway, so it worked great. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2667 - Release Date: 02/04/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary wrote: Snook flips another one! That's the idea! That's the idea, but it hasn't sold yet. Of course, I have only had it 1 week and its only been for sale for 4 days. I really wanted to keep the newer one, but, I think it will sell before the 7 series does. Alas, I will find something else in 6 months and do it all over again. When does a hobby turn into a sickness? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:14 -0600, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gary wrote: Snook flips another one! That's the idea! That's the idea, but it hasn't sold yet. Of course, I have only had it 1 week and its only been for sale for 4 days. I really wanted to keep the newer one, but, I think it will sell before the 7 series does. Alas, I will find something else in 6 months and do it all over again. When does a hobby turn into a sickness? When the state says you've exceeded the yearly limit for title transfers and you need to get a dealer license. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. lol Ed 300E On 3 February 2010 09:14, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gary wrote: Snook flips another one! That's the idea! That's the idea, but it hasn't sold yet. Of course, I have only had it 1 week and its only been for sale for 4 days. I really wanted to keep the newer one, but, I think it will sell before the 7 series does. Alas, I will find something else in 6 months and do it all over again. When does a hobby turn into a sickness? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:14 -0600, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: When does a hobby turn into a sickness? When the state says you've exceeded the yearly limit for title transfers and you need to get a dealer license. Exactly what I was thinking; he's starting early this year, so he doesn't have long before the Kansas DMV catches on ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who has toyed with the idea of becoming a small-time used-car dealer as a full-time job. I don't know what it's like in other places, but here in Portland there are a tremendous number of dealers specializing in late-model luxury cars that seem to be one- or two-man operations operating with extremely low overhead. They have a warehouse in an out-of-the-way industrial park where the rents are cheap, with a dozen or two cars in it at any one time. They advertise primarily on Craigslist or Auto Trader, again to keep costs down. I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot, and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still, ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberlain @ gmail .com
SNIP
I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at
dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a
rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot,
and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them
look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still,
ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way
to make a living.
SNIP
Not 100% so.
Many dealers who are in a cash bind bring very good cars to Auction.
Dealers also buy car from their marque at auction.
My SIL was a very successful sale manager at a local VW dealer {quite because
he hated the hours} . I helped him shuttle cars VW's went to and from the
auction based on financial needs. That being said, they sent most Hondas
Toyotas to the auction for the same reason that our wife's don't encourage us
to read Playboy.
Pete
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Well, a lawyer turning into a used car dealerhm --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm not sure it's true that auction cars are crap. I've bought two, and both were great values. A '96 Infiniti, 3 years old at the time, for $7k (Wife still driving/loving 10+ years later), and an '85 123.190 for $1100, which I sold three years later for $2300. Most of the crap at the auctions I've been to was very apparent as crap and easily avoided, but there is a big risk. A friend looking for a used Toyota Camry locally said that the new car dealers he visited put all their trade-ins for the week in the back lot, on Saturday or Sunday the Auction Guys would come through and make offers/take their pick (to re-sell at the dealer only auction), and what was left over would either be sold at the dealer's used car lot or at the public auto auction. These dealers were not interested in putting any effort into selling their trade-ins, so the best went to auction or got picked-off by the employees. Several of the Toyota dealer mechanics would skim - fix - resell as well, for personal gain on after-hours, but they stuck to the Toyotas. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon prices? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who has toyed with the idea of becoming a small-time used-car dealer as a full-time job. I don't know what it's like in other places, but here in Portland there are a tremendous number of dealers specializing in late-model luxury cars that seem to be one- or two-man operations operating with extremely low overhead. They have a warehouse in an out-of-the-way industrial park where the rents are cheap, with a dozen or two cars in it at any one time. They advertise primarily on Craigslist or Auto Trader, again to keep costs down. I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot, and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still, ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Here most small dealers have connections, or hook up with a mechanic, to do what work is needed on the cars. All cars must pass a safety and emissions test too. Sure, always ways to be dodgy about it, but once a dealer, even a small dealer, there are laws that give the buyer some protection, over buying private. Most of the curbside dealers have been done away with here. I think some of the laws have recently hanged here as well, where even small dealers are required to have a service bay at their place of business. Not 100%, but a friend was looking into it, and mentioned it to me. Ed 300E On 3 February 2010 11:18, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who has toyed with the idea of becoming a small-time used-car dealer as a full-time job. I don't know what it's like in other places, but here in Portland there are a tremendous number of dealers specializing in late-model luxury cars that seem to be one- or two-man operations operating with extremely low overhead. They have a warehouse in an out-of-the-way industrial park where the rents are cheap, with a dozen or two cars in it at any one time. They advertise primarily on Craigslist or Auto Trader, again to keep costs down. I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot, and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still, ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What I've heard is that dealers will keep the cars that they know sell well as long as there is not a major problem (crash history, unusually high miles, etc). They might keep one or two more exotic cars to park out front as attention-getters. But if a car has been sitting a few weeks, it's off to the auction. They don't make any money holding inventory. I also know that little one-man used car lots open up and close down here all the time. Often times they're closed within a couple of months of opening. I think it's a very very hard way to earn an income. Allan On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:45 -0500, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: I'm not sure it's true that auction cars are crap. I've bought two, and both were great values. A '96 Infiniti, 3 years old at the time, for $7k (Wife still driving/loving 10+ years later), and an '85 123.190 for $1100, which I sold three years later for $2300. Most of the crap at the auctions I've been to was very apparent as crap and easily avoided, but there is a big risk. A friend looking for a used Toyota Camry locally said that the new car dealers he visited put all their trade-ins for the week in the back lot, on Saturday or Sunday the Auction Guys would come through and make offers/take their pick (to re-sell at the dealer only auction), and what was left over would either be sold at the dealer's used car lot or at the public auto auction. These dealers were not interested in putting any effort into selling their trade-ins, so the best went to auction or got picked-off by the employees. Several of the Toyota dealer mechanics would skim - fix - resell as well, for personal gain on after-hours, but they stuck to the Toyotas. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not so here. Last time I was at a used car lot (independent, not associated with a new-car dealer) I asked the salesman point blank what have you done to this car since you acquired it and to his credit he answered honestly: nothing. They don't change the fluids, they don't do an inspection. They wash it, put some Armor-All on the tires, maybe detail it if the interior is a mess, and they put it on the lot. Allan On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:51 -0500, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Here most small dealers have connections, or hook up with a mechanic, to do what work is needed on the cars. All cars must pass a safety and emissions test too. Sure, always ways to be dodgy about it, but once a dealer, even a small dealer, there are laws that give the buyer some protection, over buying private. Most of the curbside dealers have been done away with here. I think some of the laws have recently hanged here as well, where even small dealers are required to have a service bay at their place of business. Not 100%, but a friend was looking into it, and mentioned it to me. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Generally, all cars here have to pass a safety and emissions test whenever it changes hands. Emissions are good for 6 months I think, but if you make a habit of it, you're considered a dealer. If a car is less than X number of years old, and it isn't very many years, you are exempt from emissions, and if the car is very old, exempt too, thought they are fiddling with that. Safety is all the standard stuff, brakes, lights, wipers, no perforation, etc. It's not to be confused with saying the car will pass a month later, only that everything was within allowed limits at time of inspection. Ed 300E On 3 February 2010 12:22, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Not so here. Last time I was at a used car lot (independent, not associated with a new-car dealer) I asked the salesman point blank what have you done to this car since you acquired it and to his credit he answered honestly: nothing. They don't change the fluids, they don't do an inspection. They wash it, put some Armor-All on the tires, maybe detail it if the interior is a mess, and they put it on the lot. Allan On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 11:51 -0500, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Here most small dealers have connections, or hook up with a mechanic, to do what work is needed on the cars. All cars must pass a safety and emissions test too. Sure, always ways to be dodgy about it, but once a dealer, even a small dealer, there are laws that give the buyer some protection, over buying private. Most of the curbside dealers have been done away with here. I think some of the laws have recently hanged here as well, where even small dealers are required to have a service bay at their place of business. Not 100%, but a friend was looking into it, and mentioned it to me. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You are talking about wholesalers. They come in, buy dealer trades, then resell them to other indi used car dealers. Depending on the market, they will send them to auction if they are sitting around too long. Depending on how they have them floored, each day they are sitting costs them money. Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I'm not sure it's true that auction cars are crap. I've bought two, and both were great values. A '96 Infiniti, 3 years old at the time, for $7k (Wife still driving/loving 10+ years later), and an '85 123.190 for $1100, which I sold three years later for $2300. Most of the crap at the auctions I've been to was very apparent as crap and easily avoided, but there is a big risk. A friend looking for a used Toyota Camry locally said that the new car dealers he visited put all their trade-ins for the week in the back lot, on Saturday or Sunday the Auction Guys would come through and make offers/take their pick (to re-sell at the dealer only auction), and what was left over would either be sold at the dealer's used car lot or at the public auto auction. These dealers were not interested in putting any effort into selling their trade-ins, so the best went to auction or got picked-off by the employees. Several of the Toyota dealer mechanics would skim - fix - resell as well, for personal gain on after-hours, but they stuck to the Toyotas. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon prices? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who has toyed with the idea of becoming a small-time used-car dealer as a full-time job. I don't know what it's like in other places, but here in Portland there are a tremendous number of dealers specializing in late-model luxury cars that seem to be one- or two-man operations operating with extremely low overhead. They have a warehouse in an out-of-the-way industrial park where the rents are cheap, with a dozen or two cars in it at any one time. They advertise primarily on Craigslist or Auto Trader, again to keep costs down. I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot, and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still, ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a small timer I used to go check his cars out. Indian guy with a penchant for jags and benz. He was not too keyed in about the issues with each marque, but he could talk a fast game. I think he got the lot from his dad. Now this is not on a corner, the 7-11 had that spot. He was next parcel down from the corner on the busy thoroughfare. Dad has the other parcel next to the 7-11 kitty corner from the car lot. Dad ran the repair shop for Benz and jags. There was as walk through at the corners to get to each store. Never purchased from him. He had an SDL on the lot that I was enamored of. After looking at it hard and talking with him a bunch, I decided it would be about as good a purchase as the POS SDL. Had the trap, #14 head and I suspect it needed a head gasket. clay oh yeah, he went out of business and his sister is now repping Tata type indian mini car things. Not sure if she actually has any to sell from the factory. On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:51 AM, E M wrote: Here most small dealers have connections, or hook up with a mechanic, to do what work is needed on the cars. All cars must pass a safety and emissions test too. Sure, always ways to be dodgy about it, but once a dealer, even a small dealer, there are laws that give the buyer some protection, over buying private. Most of the curbside dealers have been done away with here. I think some of the laws have recently hanged here as well, where even small dealers are required to have a service bay at their place of business. Not 100%, but a friend was looking into it, and mentioned it to me. Ed 300E On 3 February 2010 11:18, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:16 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: If you keep making money on your hobby, it may turn into a job, not a sickness. I'm sure I'm not the only person on this list who has toyed with the idea of becoming a small-time used-car dealer as a full-time job. I don't know what it's like in other places, but here in Portland there are a tremendous number of dealers specializing in late-model luxury cars that seem to be one- or two-man operations operating with extremely low overhead. They have a warehouse in an out-of-the-way industrial park where the rents are cheap, with a dozen or two cars in it at any one time. They advertise primarily on Craigslist or Auto Trader, again to keep costs down. I suspect a majority of the cars sold this way have been purchased at dealer auctions in other states. Problem is, auction cars are, as a rule, crap; new car dealers keep good trade-ins for their used lot, and dump the rest. You can give them a thorough detail to make them look like creampuffs to the unsuspecting buyer, but they're still, ultimately, crap. So it's not a particularly honest nor honorable way to make a living. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Redghost wrote: oh yeah, he went out of business and his sister is now repping Tata type indian mini car things. Not sure if she actually has any to sell from the factory. Is this her? http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/8/27/633869903638609460-helppolice.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope, the sister has a Sari clay On Feb 3, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Redghost wrote: oh yeah, he went out of business and his sister is now repping Tata type indian mini car things. Not sure if she actually has any to sell from the factory. Is this her? http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/8/27/633869903638609460-helppolice.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When you join a list like this? On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: When does a hobby turn into a sickness? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So his sister has mini Tatas? --R Redghost wrote: There is a small timer I used to go check his cars out. Indian guy with a penchant for jags and benz. He was not too keyed in about the issues with each marque, but he could talk a fast game. I think he got the lot from his dad. Now this is not on a corner, the 7-11 had that spot. He was next parcel down from the corner on the busy thoroughfare. Dad has the other parcel next to the 7-11 kitty corner from the car lot. Dad ran the repair shop for Benz and jags. There was as walk through at the corners to get to each store. Never purchased from him. He had an SDL on the lot that I was enamored of. After looking at it hard and talking with him a bunch, I decided it would be about as good a purchase as the POS SDL. Had the trap, #14 head and I suspect it needed a head gasket. clay oh yeah, he went out of business and his sister is now repping Tata type indian mini car things. Not sure if she actually has any to sell from the factory. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas wrote: So his sister has mini Tatas? http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/11/17/633940771190419310-computergirls.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bodacious. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: So his sister has mini Tatas? http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/11/17/633940771190419310-computergirls.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well-formed nodes in that element. On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:12 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: So his sister has mini Tatas? http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/11/17/633940771190419310-computergirls.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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snook flips another one! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you? and Mitch wrote: You're talking to a fellow who bought two BMWs. Not only bought two BMWs, but likely has one of them sold today. I got a $9,000 offer on the 5 series yesterday, I think it will sell today for $9500-10,000. There is a guy who has been calling over and over to look at it and hopefully buy it. If he does buy it, I keep the 7 series to drive for a while longer while I look for the perfect Mercedes. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote: and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you? and Mitch wrote: You're talking to a fellow who bought two BMWs. Not only bought two BMWs, but likely has one of them sold today. I got a $9,000 offer on the 5 series yesterday, I think it will sell today for $9500-10,000. There is a guy who has been calling over and over to look at it and hopefully buy it. If he does buy it, I keep the 7 series to drive for a while longer while I look for the perfect Mercedes. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That perfect Mercedes is probably the one they haven't built yet, but it's fun trying a bunch while waiting for it, isn't it. ;-) lol Ed 300E On 2 February 2010 09:20, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you? and Mitch wrote: You're talking to a fellow who bought two BMWs. Not only bought two BMWs, but likely has one of them sold today. I got a $9,000 offer on the 5 series yesterday, I think it will sell today for $9500-10,000. There is a guy who has been calling over and over to look at it and hopefully buy it. If he does buy it, I keep the 7 series to drive for a while longer while I look for the perfect Mercedes. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What's a 92 300TE 4Matic with 161k worth? Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From what I've read about the 4 wheel drive system, probably not a lot. Ed 300E On 1 February 2010 12:19, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: What's a 92 300TE 4Matic with 161k worth? Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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2k or less Donald Snook wrote: What's a 92 300TE 4Matic with 161k worth? Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you? On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: What's a 92 300TE 4Matic with 161k worth? Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary Hurst wrote: and the 124 4matic talk hasn't scared you? You're talking to a fellow who bought two BMWs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
