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Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes: > That is my question too. If the original system had a joint that > could be undone with hand tools, why is that no longer the case? Low-end exhaust shops have a stock of generic pipes, a chop saw, and some benders, expanders, and shrinkers to make it all fit.

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The solid flanges that slide on the pipe holding the flared pipe ends together rusted away. The pipes themselves were in tact because they are stainless. This joint which was designed to be undone is now welded together with a short length of pipe slid onto and into the respective original exhau

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That is my question too. If the original system had a joint that could be undone with hand tools, why is that no longer the case? Was there a leak / rust at the joint? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:04 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > a

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Herr Mann put it well too.  Combine his argument with Philip's, then demand the guy replace BOTH sections with new, as that is the only way to do it right.   Or better yet, get him to refund the money and buy the 2 pieces and do it yourself. Was the bill paid with a CC?  If so, dispute the cha

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and cut out the restriction.   THt is a bigger deal than the ugly welds.   But the real deal is why was the flange cut out and not repaired? Dwight Giles via Mercedes January 3, 2020 at 2:52 PM Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean

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THAT level of quality should not cost over $40.   $24 is more like it. No, you are not being too fussy.   The dude needs to LOOK at the crap he (his welder guy) is turning out.    And , no, I could not do any better unless I practiced for at least a half hour. My FCAW is pretty ugly.    If I

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My dealer trained indy tech swears by Meinicke's welders. On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > As a quick alternative, I suggest a trip, with the car, to your local Midas > Muffler Shop [or your local equal]. There, they will have tubing, sizing > equipment, and proper we

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As a quick alternative, I suggest a trip, with the car, to your local Midas Muffler Shop [or your local equal]. There, they will have tubing, sizing equipment, and proper welding skills and equipment to remove the damaged mess and replace it with proper exhaust materials, quickly... Should be a dri

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Yes I think the exhaust is “fixed”. When I get a tig welder, I will cut out that atrocity and re-weld it properly. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks? > I get that you don't want to sue t

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Great point! On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:50 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks? > I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat least > for now are there,any exhaust leaks. > > Dwi

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So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks? I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat least for now are there,any exhaust leaks. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wr

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Yes, I believe the exhaust is stainless and therefore should have been welded with stainless wire or ideally tig welded. That being said, I have mig welded stainless exhausts with non stainless wire and the results were beautiful so I do believe the problem here was due to complete incompetence

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Dimitri says: >Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. I wonder if the exhaust is some grade of stainless? There is some stainless that has enough ferrous material in it to be somewhat magnetic. That would explain why the welds look like that. Welder dude used the wrong wir

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:17:02 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > 4 hours at $100ea, plus $25 to dig in the scrap pile for the patch > material? I can remember when MiG welding cost me $30 an hour, but that > was in the 1980s. The good news is he cut the flange out so the next > time it g

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Drunken monkeyThis response takes the cake! Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:26 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > If the welder was a drunken monkey working for free peanuts and warm beer, > using a flux core 110 welder, then it's an outstanding job. > > Otherwise, as a 'paid e

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There are various reasons why I don’t want to do that. First of all, it is a good Mercedes shop for mechanical repairs. I guess anything welding related is just a no no for them. After this experience, I will weld everything myself. I let it slide this time because I was busy and didn’t want to

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> Dimitri wrote: > Not only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was > originally joined together with flanges and bolted > together. ...cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially > intended. To me, the ugly weld is disappointing. If it seals and hold together, maybe good enoug

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If the welder was a drunken monkey working for free peanuts and warm beer, using a flux core 110 welder, then it's an outstanding job. Otherwise, as a 'paid expert"... it absolutely sucks ! Good welds are also pretty welds. These welds are bone ugly, show lack of heat control and hand / stinger c

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Usually in this situation I just replace the rusty section with a factory part. It bolts right in and the parts are not typically too expensive. On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:54 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't

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Yelp and Facebook are handy for this sort of social media shaming. However, there is a flip side in that you can pretty much forget ever patronizing the business again. Since it’s a place his mom has been taking the car that might be a problem for her… -D > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Dwight

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Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up the weld. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be > welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period. > >

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I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > I would definitely complain to the repair shop. > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > >> On Fri, J

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4 hours at $100ea, plus $25 to dig in the scrap pile for the patch material? I can remember when MiG welding cost me $30 an hour, but that was in the 1980s. The good news is he cut the flange out so the next time it goes you'll have to replace two pieces instead of the piece the idiot indy (or foo

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I would definitely complain to the repair shop. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. > Paint covered up the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not > only does

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$425? Ouch. I hope your guy marked the subbed work up substantially. I would have a really hard time justifying that. -D > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > No real material cost other than some cheap section of pipe that was spliced > in. A few bucks at most. > > Sent

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No real material cost other than some cheap section of pipe that was spliced in. A few bucks at most. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m no welder other than stick welding two edges of steel plate butted > together laying on a flat floo

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I’m no welder other than stick welding two edges of steel plate butted together laying on a flat floor. That being said, my exhaust guy does a much better job than that and would have charged significantly less based on my experience. For example, he welded the small catalytic converter on one

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That looks way better than 99% of my welds. Especially working upside down under the car on rusty metal... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://ma

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What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be so incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wr

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Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. Paint covered up the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was done.

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I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with my HF welder. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most

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NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the > Boston area to have a few things repaired including the e

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My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “we