Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Randy Bennell


Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be 
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply 
place - probably Staples.


Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The reviews 
are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of variance which 
I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The reviews 
are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of variance which 
I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 gram?

-Curt

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2nd part of my response.

So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease 
without their label?
I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles 
and have had no issues.


Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Canfield
I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


 Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
 I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
 accurate enough.
 Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
 place - probably Staples.

 Randy


 On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
 1 gram?

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Michael Canfield
There is Kendall Super Blue in all 4 sets of wheel bearings on my 83.
Seems to roll just fine.  I just packed the bearings with a packing tool
and put a bit in the housing like I have done on pretty much every wheel
bearing job I have done.  Only difference is that I use the magnetic base
and dial indicator to set the MBZ bearings to spec. on the 300d, most
others I set by feel.
  No problems yet and I drive it hard.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:57 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
 1 gram?

 -Curt

 __**_

  2nd part of my response.

 So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
 Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease
 without their label?
 I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles and
 have had no issues.

 Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Michael Canfield wrote:

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.


The problem with cheap digital scales is usually drift.
If you zero it, weigh one thing and then stop there, it should be surprisingly 
accurate for the price.


If you're reloading 100 rifle cartridges and using it to weigh the powder, it 
will drive you nuts trying to get consistent weights over time as it warms up.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread OK Don
Convenience - it's pre-measured and you don't have to think about which
grease to use, etc.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
 1 gram?

 -Curt

 __**_

  2nd part of my response.

 So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
 Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease
 without their label?
 I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles and
 have had no issues.

 Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Curt Raymond
If I had a dealer close by I'd go for it. Rusty says its expensive for him to 
ship to me. I did get him to send me a couple tubes a couple years ago. The 
tubes are super convenient though.

Last time I did one I used Mobil 1 synthetic grease (the pink stuff) and just 
guestomated the amount but now I want to do it right. I figure to scoop it out 
of the tub with a spoon into a little plastic container...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:48:42 -0400
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID: 5087570a.5030...@constructivity.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

One tube does 2 fronts.  Get a tube, squeeze out about half for one 
side, then half for the other side.  Close enough.

--R

On 10/23/12 10:44 PM, Craig wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
 IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
 packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
 up.


 I'm thinking about
 http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
 of variance which I think is probably acceptable,
 It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Curt Raymond
IIRC Marshall specified synthetic grease but would begrudgingly admit that 
Mobil 1 synthetic grease was good stuff.

I suspect any good name brand grease would be fine, I doubt synthetic grease 
was available when my car was made in '77.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
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On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
 do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about 
 http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The 
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of 
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 
 gram?

 -Curt

 ___

2nd part of my response.

So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease 
without their label?
I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles 
and have had no issues.

Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


 Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
 I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
 accurate enough.
 Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
 place - probably Staples.

 Randy


 On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
 1 gram?

 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Rich Thomas
If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit 
more than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a 
bit smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the 
axle stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with 
grease, there will be some room for it to move around and not cause 
whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so 
about a toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a 
bit more than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it 
down to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a 
great impression on me as being other than that is what Mercedes 
specifies so that is what you do.  The dire warnings about having too 
much just did not move me much.  There is such a thing as being 
obsessive, and just greasing the bearing and getting on with life.


--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
 calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
1 gram?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I can guarantee you that no mechanic even at a dealership ever would or ever 
did weigh out the grease. Not saying I wouldn't just for the fun of it but it's 
probably a waste of time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more than 
the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit smeared in 
the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle stub.  I think as 
long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease, there will be some room 
for it to move around and not cause whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the 
size of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste tube amount of grease would be 
about right, maybe a bit more than that.

I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down to 
the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great 
impression on me as being other than that is what Mercedes specifies so that 
is what you do.  The dire warnings about having too much just did not move me 
much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just greasing the bearing 
and getting on with life.

--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread dave walton
I like to use a bearing packer. These people have bulk Mercedes spec wheel
grease - $10 for 400g:

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=1322

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-34550-Handy-Packer-Bearing/dp/B0002NYDYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1351112741sr=8-1keywords=Bearing+packer

Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing with
new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific grease
you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure you get all
the solvent out before you repack.

-Dave Walton


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

 If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more
 than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit
 smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle
 stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease,
 there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever
 problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a
 toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more
 than that.

 I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down
 to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great
 impression on me as being other than that is what Mercedes specifies so
 that is what you do.  The dire warnings about having too much just did not
 move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just greasing
 the bearing and getting on with life.

 --R

 On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

 The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an
 Amazon Prime member.

 -Curt


 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
 Message-ID:
  calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
 They are actually quite accurate.

 Mike
 On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

  Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
 I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
 accurate enough.
 Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
 place - probably Staples.

 Randy


 On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

  How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/
 American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_**1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590**sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp:**//www.amazon.com/American-**
 Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/**B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8**
 qid=1351043590sr=8-2**keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale
 

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be
 in
 1 gram?

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Craig
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:55:37 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste
 tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more than that.

It depends upon the size of the tube of toothpaste you have. :-)

When I did the front wheel bearings on our 240D/3.0, I had one of the
tubes of MB green grease. In weighing it out with our gram scale, I had a
little of the tube left over.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread WILTON
I never weighed it to the gram or fraction thereof to pack B-47 aircraft or 
'51 and '56 Chevy wheel bearings;

never heard of a problem with any I packed.  Lucky again, I guess.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?


If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more 
than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit 
smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle 
stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease, 
there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever 
problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a 
toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more 
than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down 
to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great 
impression on me as being other than that is what Mercedes specifies so 
that is what you do.  The dire warnings about having too much just did 
not move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just 
greasing the bearing and getting on with life.


--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an 
Amazon Prime member.


-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
 calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten 
bucks.

They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*

*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so 
of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be 
in

1 gram?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Craig
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:11:56 -0400 dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing
 with new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific
 grease you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure
 you get all the solvent out before you repack.

When you blast the bearing with air DO NOT let the bearing spin!!!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread WILTON

Yeah, that's neat - I take my bearing packers with me everywhere I go.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?



I like to use a bearing packer. These people have bulk Mercedes spec wheel
grease - $10 for 400g:

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=1322

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-34550-Handy-Packer-Bearing/dp/B0002NYDYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1351112741sr=8-1keywords=Bearing+packer

Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing 
with

new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific grease
you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure you get all
the solvent out before you repack.

-Dave Walton


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit 
more

than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit
smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle
stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease,
there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever
problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a
toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more
than that.

I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it 
down

to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great
impression on me as being other than that is what Mercedes specifies so
that is what you do.  The dire warnings about having too much just did 
not
move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just 
greasing

the bearing and getting on with life.

--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an
Amazon Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:

calhj_1cput1m6egpuwbjxbrnyu+e6ts_30tkptxb6nrx+g1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten 
bucks.

They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would 
be

accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?


My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/
American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_**1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590**sr=8-**
2keywords=digital+scalehttp:**//www.amazon.com/American-**
Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/**B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8**
qid=1351043590sr=8-2**keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale


which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so 
of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could 
be

in
1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Dieselhead
Agreed.  I have always used molykote BR200 gun grease, and have not 
had a failure in 30+ years.  I am not sure about bearing numbers in 
the 123/124/126 and newer cars, but 108 and before were the same as 
in crypsler/plymie/dogde and other mercun cars.  No magic there.  THe 
gun grease tends to weep, but I sure like having the moly on the 
surfaces.  Much slicker (clintoner?) than plain grease, even 
syngrease.


the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.



If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small 
bit more than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, 
leaving a bit smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and 
there like on the axle stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is 
not packed full with grease, there will be some room for it to move 
around and not cause whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the size 
of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste tube amount of grease 
would be about right, maybe a bit more than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting 
it down to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not 
make a great impression on me as being other than that is what 
Mercedes specifies so that is what you do.  The dire warnings about 
having too much just did not move me much.  There is such a thing as 
being obsessive, and just greasing the bearing and getting on with 
life.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.


Crisp handling 
On a 123?
Surely you jest. 
Maybe I need a new steering box...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-24 Thread Dieselhead
Well, I thought about  adding  does not apply to W123...   but 
decided to let it lie.




On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.



Crisp handling
On a 123?
Surely you jest.
Maybe I need a new steering box...

Rick
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[MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread Curt Raymond
How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The reviews 
are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of variance which 
I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread Dieselhead
Roughly one cubic centimeter.  Since grease is less dense than water, 
you want a shade over a cc to make a gram.


HF also has a nice, cheap digital scale.



How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how 
accurate do I have to be?


I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale


which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. 
The reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram 
or so of variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much 
grease could be in 1 gram?


-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
up.


 I'm thinking about
 http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale
 
 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
 of variance which I think is probably acceptable,

It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread Rich Thomas
One tube does 2 fronts.  Get a tube, squeeze out about half for one 
side, then half for the other side.  Close enough.


--R

On 10/23/12 10:44 PM, Craig wrote:

On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
up.



I'm thinking about
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
of variance which I think is probably acceptable,

It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread OK Don
Doesn't Q sell it pre-measured for two wheels worth?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 One tube does 2 fronts.  Get a tube, squeeze out about half for one side,
 then half for the other side.  Close enough.

 --R


 On 10/23/12 10:44 PM, Craig wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

  How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
 packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
 up.


  I'm thinking about
 http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-**
 Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
 2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
 of variance which I think is probably acceptable,

 It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

2012-10-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes that is one tube.  Easy enough to get half and half, more or less, 
for each wheel.


--R

On 10/23/12 11:06 PM, OK Don wrote:

Doesn't Q sell it pre-measured for two wheels worth?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


One tube does 2 fronts.  Get a tube, squeeze out about half for one side,
then half for the other side.  Close enough.

--R


On 10/23/12 10:44 PM, Craig wrote:


On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

  How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
up.


  I'm thinking about

http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-**
Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-**
2keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1351043590sr=8-2keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
of variance which I think is probably acceptable,


It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond
The passenger wheel on my 190D has Mobil 1 that I used when I redid it to 
correct my neglecting to use new races back in December. I checked last night 
and I packed the bearings in May. I drive about 2000 miles a month so thats 
roughly 6,000 miles with no noticable degredation... I like the Mobil 1 grease, 
its got a nice texture vs conventional old school axle grease. That said the MB 
stuff is very nice also.

The bearings on my Farmall tractor could probably use repacking, they've 
probably been 25 years. I think I'll do them when I'm up there in October, the 
Mobil 1 should last at least another 25 years for the amount that tractor gets 
used...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:06:27 -0500
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
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 Thomas Savage wrote:

 Fmiser wrote:
 
  Is there another source or another part number for a large
  quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.
  
 
 One would think so, but there doesn't appear to be any other
 quantity listed in the EPC, just 001 989 23 51 Front wheel
 bearing grease 150g

Okay.  

And since no one has stepped up and said they know of an
alternate supplier for the same stuff, I'll just have a stack of
150 g tubes on the shelf.

--       Philip



  
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-18 Thread LarryT
I have some wheel bearing grease in a tub - I believe it's Mobil 1 
Synthetic - it's a odd color of green - is yours green also?


The synthetic grease I have has performed well - used it on the '78 240D and 
it's got roughly 30k miles on the WB Grease.


LarryT
91 300D
78 240D

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To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease


The passenger wheel on my 190D has Mobil 1 that I used when I redid it to 
correct my neglecting to use new races back in December. I checked last 
night and I packed the bearings in May. I drive about 2000 miles a month so 
thats roughly 6,000 miles with no noticable degredation... I like the Mobil 
1 grease, its got a nice texture vs conventional old school axle grease. 
That said the MB stuff is very nice also.


The bearings on my Farmall tractor could probably use repacking, they've 
probably been 25 years. I think I'll do them when I'm up there in October, 
the Mobil 1 should last at least another 25 years for the amount that 
tractor gets used...


-Curt

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Thomas Savage wrote:



Fmiser wrote:

 Is there another source or another part number for a large
 quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.


One would think so, but there doesn't appear to be any other
quantity listed in the EPC, just 001 989 23 51 Front wheel
bearing grease 150g


Okay.

And since no one has stepped up and said they know of an
alternate supplier for the same stuff, I'll just have a stack of
150 g tubes on the shelf.

-- Philip




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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Mobil 1 grease is a pinkish sort of red, MB grease is green...

-Curt

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I have some wheel bearing grease in a tub - I believe it's Mobil 1 
Synthetic - it's a odd color of green - is yours green also?

The synthetic grease I have has performed well - used it on the '78 240D and 
it's got roughly 30k miles on the WB Grease.

LarryT
91 300D
78 240D

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease


The passenger wheel on my 190D has Mobil 1 that I used when I redid it to 
correct my neglecting to use new races back in December. I checked last 
night and I packed the bearings in May. I drive about 2000 miles a month so 
thats roughly 6,000 miles with no noticable degredation... I like the Mobil 
1 grease, its got a nice texture vs conventional old school axle grease. 
That said the MB stuff is very nice also.

The bearings on my Farmall tractor could probably use repacking, they've 
probably been 25 years. I think I'll do them when I'm up there in October, 
the Mobil 1 should last at least another 25 years for the amount that 
tractor gets used...

-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-17 Thread Thomas Savage

Fmiser wrote:


Is there another source or another part number for a large
quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.



One would think so, but there doesn't appear to be any other quantity 
listed in the EPC, just 001 989 23 51 Front wheel bearing grease 150g


Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-17 Thread Fmiser
 Thomas Savage wrote:

 Fmiser wrote:
 
  Is there another source or another part number for a large
  quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.
  
 
 One would think so, but there doesn't appear to be any other
 quantity listed in the EPC, just 001 989 23 51 Front wheel
 bearing grease 150g

Okay.  

And since no one has stepped up and said they know of an
alternate supplier for the same stuff, I'll just have a stack of
150 g tubes on the shelf.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-17 Thread Jim Cathey

Is there another source or another part number for a large
quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.
One would think so, but there doesn't appear to be any other quantity 
listed in the EPC, just 001 989 23 51 Front wheel bearing grease  150g


The problem with bulk grease is that it's awfully easy to
contaminate, and I believe Mother Benz was not interested
in encouraging a situation that resulted in dirty wheel
bearing grease being used.  So they probably only specified
the tubes.  The factory probably got it in bulk, but nobody
else.

That's not to say that there isn't a perfectly good equivalent
grease that _is_ available in bulk.  I'm sure there is.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-16 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes:

 But my original questions still stands.

 Is there another source or another part number for a large
 quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.

Maybe ask at the dealer?  Call Rusty?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump 
grease into it until comes out the other side.


Hendrik

Fmiser wrote:

Speaking of wheel bearing grease

Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g
tube?  Like a tube of it?  Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or
something) and is available as a different part number like the
coolant is?

Or am I stuck buying a stack of tubes?

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes:

 Speaking of wheel bearing grease

 Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g
 tube?  Like a tube of it?  Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or
 something) and is available as a different part number like the
 coolant is?

I seem to recall Marshall saying it was the same as some mil-spec grease
made by Shell.  Wonder if anyone with a Marshall Archive could find
that...

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread ned kleinhenz
easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump
grease into it until comes out the other side.

I agree that is the classical easiest way to grease the bearings.
But that method may be all wrong for Mercedes wheels.

I learned from Marshal to use a very specific amount of grease per bearing.
The empty space not filled with grease is important for circulating the
grease within the assembly.

Also, in my experience, one tube of MB special grease is exactly enough for
two wheels.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread dave walton
Here are 2 posts by Marshall made in 2005:



There are many fine synthetic wheel bearing greases (many/most must
not be mixed), but Mercedes is VERY particular about the quantity of
grease to be used. Too much or too little (by even 10%) and premature
failure is likely. The advantage of buying a tube of the Mercedes
supplied grease is there is precisely the proper amount (150 gm as I
recall) to do both front wheels.

Marshall
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2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
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my...@netscape.net wrote:
 ha! mercedes batteries, just a over priced battery with a cheap mercedes 
 paper label

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings

 what are we  i cant believeth it  i would have thought  we  HAD  to

use only mercedes benz battery's
 you know some ppl in this group
collins

 WHY?

 Marshall


 WELL.  there is ALLWAYS the  prolonged  discourse regarding the following
 things
 a break fluid!
 b transmission fluid!
 c air conditioner refrigerant!
 d air conditioner compressors!
 e automotive glass!
 f wheel bearing torque !
 g wheel bearing grease!
 h godonlyknowswhatelse!
 I i am surprised  there have been no howls of protest no out rage !!!  using
 a non  MERCEDES BATTERY!?!!?( GASP), oh the humanity!

 ps since no one has raised it does mercedes makewindshield washer
 fluid ??? and will pep boys stuff work in a 500  sec

 ahh let the diatribe begin!

Myth, heresy, ignorance, rumor, carelessness, inattention!

Mercedes labeled batteries are FINE batteries. They also cost about the
same as the DieHard Internationals and the top of the line Interstates
(all are made by Johnson Controls and are of about the same quality and
have a history of giving about equal service everything else being
equal). The Johnson Control's batteries sold by Wal-Mart, Costco,
Advance Auto, Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc have about the same recent
history of service and are from 20-50% less expensive. A Mercedes
battery is not remotely a bad battery, just a fairly expensive one. A
Mercedes battery MAY end up being an inexpensive alternative if you are
stuck with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere. You can call
Mercedes and they will bring you a new battery. They will NOT charge for
the roadside installation or the service call - only the list price for
the battery. That CAN be much cheaper than some of the alternatives. If
you drive into a Mercedes dealership the cost WILL be much higher as
they WILL charge labor for installation.

SOME Mercedes products are GREAT values and some are unique. The was
nothing like Mercedes anti-freeze available in the US until a few years
ago and EVERYTHING else was quite inferior. Now Zerex G05 is available
and is identical (Valvoline is using the Mercedes formula). You can use
either, but be sure to change it every few years. Then there is Mercedes
sunroof grease. NOTHING else will do the job properly. Some Mercedes
products are GREAT values (rebuilt water pumps and rear wheel bearing
repair kits used to be great bargains) and are often cheaper than
aftermarket replacements. Some Mercedes parts are ONLY available from
the factory (try and find an aftermarket radiator or exhaust system for
a 190D 2.5 turbo in the US). Some aftermarket products have NEVER met
Mercedes standards (use NOTHING but Mercedes pistons and cams). How many
US makers can supply almost any part for a 30+ year old car within a few
days. The pricing policies of a few dealerships (selling parts at 25% to
200% suggested list) make NOTHING they sell much of a value.

Mercedes does NOT require that you use Mercedes brake fluid - just
DOT-4+ changed at least every 2 years. They permit almost any
Mercon/Dexron rated transmission fluid for all the 722.1, .2, .3, .4
transmissions (maybe .5 as well - not sure). The newer 722.6 series does
require Mercedes specific fluid that's QUITE expensive, but it lasts
2-4X as long as conventional fluid. There is NO specific for refrigerant
(the US government regulates refrigerant). Mercedes factory glass MUST
meet certain European standards to be used in a car in Europe (it used
to be quite a bit softer - not sure about now). Those standards were
quite different than those imposed by the US, so the glass used had to
meet BOTH standards. The replacement glass available from dealers in the
US now, need only meet US standards.

You can of course tighten your wheel bearings any way you choose, but if
you don't service and tighten them the way Mercedes suggests, they are
unlikely to last the life of the car (many last 400-500kmi or more if
maintained as Mercedes suggests) and the car will NOT drive like a
Mercedes (usually more like OLD, beat Chevy). As to Wheel bearing
grease, the 

Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you can search the archives here

http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Allan Streib wrote:

Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes:

  

Speaking of wheel bearing grease

Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g
tube?  Like a tube of it?  Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or
something) and is available as a different part number like the
coolant is?



I seem to recall Marshall saying it was the same as some mil-spec grease
made by Shell.  Wonder if anyone with a Marshall Archive could find
that...

Allan

  


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread OK Don
Good way to unseal the seals -- pushing excess grease out through them.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote:

 easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump
 grease into it until comes out the other side.

 Hendrik


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-15 Thread Fmiser
 ned kleinhenz wrote:

 I learned from Marshal to use a very specific amount of grease
 per bearing. The empty space not filled with grease is
 important for circulating the grease within the assembly.

Yup.  That's what I understand too.  And I've seen the evidence
that it really does circulate.

 Also, in my experience, one tube of MB special grease is
 exactly enough for two wheels.

Close.  The manual (33-320) says 60 g per wheel bearing.  The
tube has 150 g.  So make sure you are a little bit messy and
waste 15 g of grease per side.

But my original questions still stands.

Is there another source or another part number for a large
quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice.

--   Philip

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[MBZ] Wheel bearing grease

2009-08-14 Thread Fmiser
Speaking of wheel bearing grease

Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g
tube?  Like a tube of it?  Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or
something) and is available as a different part number like the
coolant is?

Or am I stuck buying a stack of tubes?

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease

2005-10-13 Thread Marshall Booth

ned kleinhenz wrote:

Marshall wrote:
 There are many
greases that will meet the specification, but few are packaged in
precisely the correct amounts as the Mercedes product is and few
mechanics, much less DIYers have scales to weigh out the proper
quantities as is required for proper application. The design of the
bearing assembly and the grease specifications allowed the grease to be
pumped thru the bearing assembly as long as the proper quantities were
loaded into the correct compartments. 
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 I replaced the front wheel bearing on a 124, last night. What a difference
that made!
It's now like a new car in quietness and handling.
 What is Marshall refering to by packaged in precisely the correct
amounts?
Each time I've bought that expesive super MB grease from the dealer or from
Rusty, it came in a big toothpaste type tube that contained enough to repack
about 2.5 wheels. No obvious way to measure each dose.
Does Mercedes also sell this stuff in one dose foil packs or something?
 Failing that option, I guess we could measure it volumetrically with a
tablespoon or some such. (It expect the density of grease is about 0.7gm/cc).
 Also, where is all the grease supposed to be placed? Where are these
correct copartments? Inside each cage, between the rollers is obvious. And
I know the cover cap is supposed to contain a measured amount. But is there
supposed to be some placed inside the hub, between the inner and outer
bearings? These details are not obvious in the shop manual.


Should not have been any problem. The 150 grams in the tube should be 
divided in half (for each side) then 80% of each half (60 g) into the 
bearings and the remaining 20% (15 g) into the cap.


Seemed perfectly simple to me.

Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease

2005-10-13 Thread PONDERSOA
 
In a message dated 10/12/2005 10:03:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Marshall  wrote:
 There are many
greases that will meet the specification,  but few are packaged in
precisely the correct amounts as the Mercedes  product is and few
mechanics, much less DIYers have scales to weigh out the  proper
quantities as is required for proper application. The design of  the
bearing assembly and the grease specifications allowed the grease to  be
pumped thru the bearing assembly as long as the proper quantities  were
loaded into the correct compartments.  
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I replaced the front wheel bearing on a  124, last night. What a difference
that made!
It's now like a new car in  quietness and handling.
What is Marshall refering to by packaged in  precisely the correct
amounts?
Each time I've bought that expesive  super MB grease from the dealer or from
Rusty, it came in a big toothpaste  type tube that contained enough to repack
about 2.5 wheels. No obvious way  to measure each dose.
Does Mercedes also sell this stuff in one dose foil  packs or something?
Failing that option, I guess we could measure it  volumetrically with a
tablespoon or some such. (It expect the density of  grease is about 0.7gm/cc).
Also, where is all the grease supposed to be  placed? Where are these
correct copartments? Inside each cage, between  the rollers is obvious. And
I know the cover cap is supposed to contain a  measured amount. But is there
supposed to be some placed inside the hub,  between the inner and outer
bearings? These details are not obvious in the  shop manual.
Ned Klienhenz



NOO!!!  
oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes  gods!
 forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless  information 
!!
 
collins 
1985 500 sec


Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease

2005-10-13 Thread Marshall Booth

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



NOO!!!  
oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes  gods!
 forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless  information 
!!
 
collins 
1985 500 sec


You don't like it - I'll leave!

Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease

2005-10-13 Thread Bob DuPuy
Hey Collins,
I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate
Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge
regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list
and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more
enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add,
stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions
in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede
and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious
ignorance.

Bob DuPuy
Parrish, Fl
87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA

On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  NOO!!!
  oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes  gods!
   forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless  information
  !!
 
  collins
  1985 500 sec



Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)

2005-10-13 Thread Mike Canfield
MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the OBVIOUS 
humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the 
comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to 
offend.  People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks!  Are things 
really THAT bad?


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease



Hey Collins,
I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate
Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge
regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list
and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more
enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add,
stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions
in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede
and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious
ignorance.

Bob DuPuy
Parrish, Fl
87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA

On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 NOO!!!
 oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes 
 gods!
  forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless 
 information

 !!

 collins
 1985 500 sec


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)

2005-10-13 Thread Bob DuPuy
You could be right Mike I have been trying to cut back to under five
cups before lunch. Old Colon was poking at Marshall in other comments
too and frankly I value his input much higher than Colons humor. I'll
try to keep it light.

Bob DuPuy

On 10/13/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the OBVIOUS
 humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the
 comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to
 offend.  People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks!  Are things
 really THAT bad?

 Mike
 - Original Message -
 From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease


  Hey Collins,
  I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate
  Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge
  regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list
  and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more
  enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add,
  stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions
  in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede
  and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious
  ignorance.
 
  Bob DuPuy
  Parrish, Fl
  87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA
 
  On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   NOO!!!
   oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes
   gods!
forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless
   information
   !!
  
   collins
   1985 500 sec
 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease

2005-10-13 Thread Hans Neureiter
Collins, see what you have done? Repent!

On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  NOO!!!
  oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes
 gods!
  forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless
 information
  !!
 
  collins
  1985 500 sec

 You don't like it - I'll leave!

 Marshall
 --
 Marshall Booth Ph.D.
 Ass't Prof. (ret.)
 Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
 Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST
 Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)

2005-10-13 Thread Mike Canfield

Bob,
 I guess I have just acquired the attitude that if they are poking fun at 
me then I guess they are leaving others alone and I could really care 
less...I buy, sell and build Suzuki four wheel drive parts and vehicles 
and get the same kind of stuff that we are talking about all the time.  I 
have also learned(mostly from this group) that it is often VERY hard to 
judge if someone is being sarcastic or humorous when in text.  I, as 
Marshall should be, would be offended as well if the comments truly were 
meant in a sarcastic manner as he IS a MBZ god in knowledge.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease(Testy people)



You could be right Mike I have been trying to cut back to under five
cups before lunch. Old Colon was poking at Marshall in other comments
too and frankly I value his input much higher than Colons humor. I'll
try to keep it light.

Bob DuPuy

On 10/13/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MAN...You guys need to lighten up on the coffee.I could see the 
OBVIOUS

humor in the Mercedes Gods statement and unless i am sadly mistaken the
comment was intended to raise no more than a smile in Marshall and not to
offend.  People are SOOO testy these daysIt really sucks!  Are things
really THAT bad?

Mike
- Original Message -
From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearing Grease


 Hey Collins,
 I for one, and I think most members of the list greatly appreciate
 Marshall taking the time to share with us his hard won knowledge
 regarding mercedes diesels. Over the years he personally and this list
 and its predessor have made my ownership of mercedes diesels much more
 enjoyable. If you feel you have something positive and factual to add,
 stick around. If not,and all can do is blurt out you useless opinions
 in a rude manner, Shut the hell up and just read maybe some knowlede
 and class will seep into your brain and replace your obvious
 ignorance.

 Bob DuPuy
 Parrish, Fl
 87 300D, 87 300SDL, 84 416 DOKA

 On 10/13/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  NOO!!!
  oh man you have done it now you have angered the great mercedes
  gods!
   forgive him ,,,he knows not of your rath oh keepers of useless
  information
  !!
 
  collins
  1985 500 sec

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[MBZ] Wheel bearing Grease

2005-07-17 Thread Peter Arnold
Is there consensus that any name brand synthetic wheel bearing grease
is acceptable for our cars?
Seeing as I have to pull the hubs {I'd like to speak to that design
engineer!} to swap rotors, I may as well do bearing service.

--

Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 225 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 185 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 70 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)



Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing Grease

2005-07-17 Thread Marshall Booth

Peter Arnold wrote:

Is there consensus that any name brand synthetic wheel bearing grease
is acceptable for our cars?
Seeing as I have to pull the hubs {I'd like to speak to that design
engineer!} to swap rotors, I may as well do bearing service.



There are many fine synthetic wheel bearing greases (many/most must not 
be mixed), but Mercedes is VERY particular about the quantity of grease 
to be used. Too much or too little (by even 10%) and premature failure 
is likely. The advantage of buying a tube of the Mercedes supplied 
grease is there is precisely the proper amount (150 gm as I recall) to 
do both front wheels.


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm