Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-30 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kim Komando says apple and gateway to the most reliable laptops. 
Gateway is not reliable as a desktop.


I thought Gateway and Compaq were low end products from HP?

Mitch.


HP bought compaq.

the remains of Gateway after "professional management" were bought 
back by the founder.  it is smaller and more manageable now.


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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-30 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Ok, you asked about computers, and most here know I'm a UNIX guy at heart
and an Apple guy most of the rest of the time. So yeah, I'm going to say
Mac just off the cuff right up front. However, you say that 90% of what you
do is eMail. What is the other 10%? Heavy photo and graphics manipulation?
Hard core Crysis 3 first person shooter gaming? Or light document editing?
Because if most of what you do is eMail then you probably don't even need a
computer. An iPad or *nice* Android tablet (not a $99 WalMart special) may
be a far better fit for you if all you do is eMail, with some document
typing, or internet surfing. Pair it with a Bluetooth keyboard so you can
do the heavy typing "off screen" and you are good to go.

Being that my entire world is Tech, I work in the field, live and breath it
at home, I have a nice Mac desktop, nice Windows desktop (nature of the
industry), decent Android phone and an iPad. Most of my eMail and internet
surfing has switched from sitting at a desk in front of the computer to
sitting on the couch, or in my favorite reading chair, or wherever I want
with my iPad. Plus my library is slowly also switching to digital so I can
take it all with me.

Samsung builds a great line of Android tablets for non-Apple lovers. Google
has the Nexus line, and those are vanilla Android, so no goofy UI changes
or what have you. Microsoft has the Surface line of tablets, but frankly
they are a little expensive in my opinion. They are trying to hard to be a
laptop replacement, not just a tablet.

Just a thought,

EdB.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any
> suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell
> using WinXP . . . no flames please.
> Thanx.
>
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
+1 to this. I've been using an HP XW8600 for a couple years now. For normal 
email/web browsing I see it lasting for 4-5 more years anyway. This year I 
upgraded to 10GB of RAM (found it at work) and a 120GB SSD (solid state drive) 
with Win7 which got boot times down to basically nothing.

The only downside is its physically a large computer and kind of loud.

I was also going to suggest an HP Z1 which is basically the iMac of the HP 
world, some of my customers rave about them but then I saw the price which is 
probably gag worthy for most people.

Personally I'd avoid Windows 8, get something with Win7 (they're still for 
sale) and 8GB of RAM and pretty much any brand will be fine. Or a Mac if you'd 
like to try that...

-Curt



 From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
To: G. M. Brown ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer
 

On 29/10/2014 4:06 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:
> For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any 
> suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell 
> using WinXP . . . no flames please.
> Thanx.
>
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC
>   
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>

Find a local IT guy and buy a used one. I deal with a small business 
that sells and services computers. I have bought a number of used 
computers over the years for $100 to $200 and have had very little 
trouble. One did not work and was replaced without any argument. They 
won't be state of the art and they may have some scratches on the case 
but that has not deterred me. Bigger companies often clear house and put 
in all new computers and these get sold by the pallet load to people 
like my guy who then flog them for a bit of profit.

RB




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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kim Komando says apple and gateway to the most reliable laptops. Gateway 
is not reliable as a desktop. 


I thought Gateway and Compaq were low end products from HP?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Because they have become more of a commodity than anything else, I would 
suggest a name brand laptop rather than a desktop machine.

You didn't specify the form you wanted, but desktops are slowly dying out in 
favor of laptops, which have become so cheap that you can buy a very good one 
that will last some time for around $500.

Stick with brands you know, like HP or Toshiba.  Pick a price point like $500 
and you will literally have more to choose from than you could ever imagine.

>From my last buying assistance trip with a good friend who is also my 
>attorney, we identified what he wanted to do with the machine (word 
>processing, email) and what attributes were important (storage space and 
>display size.) Once we identified some parameters it was easy to go out and 
>pick out 4-5 that met his requirements and narrow down a price range.

I think he ended up buying an HP for around $600 from one of the office supply 
stores, Office Depot or Staples, as it was on sale at a good price.

Buying a computer these days is like buying a DVD player.  You go in to the 
store and you're faced with so many choices that do essentially the same thing 
it's difficult at best to pick one over the other.

The funny thing about this whole exercise is that his daughter insisted that he 
talk to me, as I'm known to be a Mac person. She's an Apple devotee herself, 
and expected my recommendation to be a Mac.

Wrong.

While Apples are nice computers, there was absolutely no justification for him 
to drop +$1000 on a Mac when a good Windows machine less than half that price 
would serve all of his needs. Not to mention he was already familiar with 
Windows, too.

I think she was a little unhappy with me over that. Might have been because she 
lost a bet with her Mom over what I would recommend.

Dan


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> On Oct 29, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kim Komando says apple and gateway to the most reliable laptops. Gateway is 
> not reliable as a desktop.  I cant remember what she said for desktops, other 
> than gateway was not reliable.  You can look on komando.com, but I could not 
> find the story from last Saturday. Dell is usually a safe choice unless you 
> prefer to build your own.
> 
> I prefer to build my own, then you don't end up with the advertisement 
> screens and all the bloatware they install to try to get you to buy junk 
> software.
> 
> 
>> For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any 
>> suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell 
>> using WinXP . . . no flames please.
>> Thanx.
>> 
>> G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Seriously, any Windows box should do the job.  Look for a decent price and
try to avoid any annoying things, like noisy fans or laptops that get too
hot.  You'll want Windows 7 (at least) or 8 and if you load the 64 bit
version you can actually use all the RAM if you have over 3GB installed.
Personally, I watch the deals at TigerDirect if I think I might need a new
laptop in the next year and I check local stores (BestBuy, Walmart, Office
Depot, etc.) when my desktop machine gets wonky.  Desktop machines are
essentially commodities these days; the main parameters are RAM size, hard
disk size, CPU type/speed. DVD R-W, ports (USB, HDMI, Network, modem, etc.),
display size and resolution, and Windows version.  For your purposes, a
really fast cutting edge machine would be a disadvantage because it would
run hotter and the fan might be louder.

Scott (not a computer professional)

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> M. Brown via Mercedes
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> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer
> 
> For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any
> suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell
using
> WinXP . . . no flames please.
> Thanx.
> 
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC
> 
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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 29/10/2014 4:06 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:

For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any 
suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell using 
WinXP . . . no flames please.
Thanx.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC

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Find a local IT guy and buy a used one. I deal with a small business 
that sells and services computers. I have bought a number of used 
computers over the years for $100 to $200 and have had very little 
trouble. One did not work and was replaced without any argument. They 
won't be state of the art and they may have some scratches on the case 
but that has not deterred me. Bigger companies often clear house and put 
in all new computers and these get sold by the pallet load to people 
like my guy who then flog them for a bit of profit.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Kim Komando says apple and gateway to the most reliable laptops. 
Gateway is not reliable as a desktop.  I cant remember what she said 
for desktops, other than gateway was not reliable.  You can look on 
komando.com, but I could not find the story from last Saturday. 
Dell is usually a safe choice unless you prefer to build your own.


I prefer to build my own, then you don't end up with the 
advertisement screens and all the bloatware they install to try to 
get you to buy junk software.



For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . 
any suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an 
older Dell using WinXP . . . no flames please.

Thanx.

G. M. Brown


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[MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer

2014-10-29 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any 
suggestions?  90% of what I do is Email.  I currently have an older Dell using 
WinXP . . . no flames please.
Thanx.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
  
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