Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
this picture of the new one has two lines at the inlet and outlet, so it is apparently a parallel flow The ones in the 87 and 91 300Ds also have two inlet and outlet tubes. I guess that is why the klima guys don't have a 124 model. So it looks like we are good. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/14/20 7:13 PM: 124 83016 70 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
That would make sense. It’s the same number across the board for both models. I don’t see a supersession in the EPC, but it’s possible the old number was cleared out years ago. -D > On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > hm maybe that is why your Klima guys don't sell one? Or is that not > the original number for the 87? > > If that number supercedes the original part in 85-9x models, then it likely > is the 134a condensor, while the originals may not have been. I'll try to > look at both cars side by side to see if the condensors look the same. > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/14/20 7:13 PM: >> The 1991 uses a condensor 124 830 16 70 >> >> I looked at a facelift gasser W124 and it uses the same one, so it appears >> they’re using the same condensor across the board no matter what. Hard to >> say it’s a parallel flow without seeing it, but I would guess it probably is. >> >> They’re cheap as wine - a Nissens is $131.00 and a Behr is $95.00 both at >> FCP Euro. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> -D >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
hm maybe that is why your Klima guys don't sell one? Or is that not the original number for the 87? If that number supercedes the original part in 85-9x models, then it likely is the 134a condensor, while the originals may not have been. I'll try to look at both cars side by side to see if the condensors look the same. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/14/20 7:13 PM: The 1991 uses a condensor 124 830 16 70 I looked at a facelift gasser W124 and it uses the same one, so it appears they’re using the same condensor across the board no matter what. Hard to say it’s a parallel flow without seeing it, but I would guess it probably is. They’re cheap as wine - a Nissens is $131.00 and a Behr is $95.00 both at FCP Euro. Hope that helps. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
When I looked at it a long time ago it was all the same part number. Since r134 works great in the later cars that came with it I just assumed the part number was probably superseded way back in the 90s to work with 134. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The 1991 uses a condensor 124 830 16 70 > > I looked at a facelift gasser W124 and it uses the same one, so it appears > they’re using the same condensor across the board no matter what. Hard to say > it’s a parallel flow without seeing it, but I would guess it probably is. > > They’re cheap as wine - a Nissens is $131.00 and a Behr is $95.00 both at FCP > Euro. > > Hope that helps. > > -D > > > > > >> On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> WDBEB28D1MB364746 1991 300D 2.5 >> >> The other one is an 87 300D. Don't have that VIN in front of me but the >> chassis is 12.515240 >> >> So maybe I could snag a couple condensers from the PnP? (from 1992 or newer >> 124s) >> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/14/20 6:07 PM: >>> What year is his car? I can look up the part number and see if it >>> superseded. >>> >>> I wonder how they deal with that - I wonder if they can supply an R12 >>> condensor with the laws and stuff, even though it was original equipment? >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Since the 124 had 134 starting in 92-93 I’m sure the current part number is probably parallel flow. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got mine for a W126 from the Klima Works guys, but I don’t think they > make anything for the W124. I don’t recall ever doing a crossflow > condensor in a W124. > > https://klimakit.com/products/ > > Can’t hurt to ask them. Maybe the sizes are close on one of the ones they > make. > > -D > >>> On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? >>> >>> Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was >>> thinking now is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have >>> to change the serp belt tensioner arm anyhow... >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 19:07:17 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > What year is his car? I can look up the part number and see if it > superseded. > > I wonder how they deal with that - I wonder if they can supply an R12 > condensor with the laws and stuff, even though it was original > equipment? The R134 condenser will be more efficient than the R12 condenser, so they will probably only supply that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
The 1991 uses a condensor 124 830 16 70 I looked at a facelift gasser W124 and it uses the same one, so it appears they’re using the same condensor across the board no matter what. Hard to say it’s a parallel flow without seeing it, but I would guess it probably is. They’re cheap as wine - a Nissens is $131.00 and a Behr is $95.00 both at FCP Euro. Hope that helps. -D > On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > WDBEB28D1MB364746 1991 300D 2.5 > > The other one is an 87 300D. Don't have that VIN in front of me but the > chassis is 12.515240 > > So maybe I could snag a couple condensers from the PnP? (from 1992 or newer > 124s) > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/14/20 6:07 PM: >> What year is his car? I can look up the part number and see if it superseded. >> >> I wonder how they deal with that - I wonder if they can supply an R12 >> condensor with the laws and stuff, even though it was original equipment? >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Since the 124 had 134 starting in 92-93 I’m sure the current part number is >>> probably parallel flow. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 14, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I got mine for a W126 from the Klima Works guys, but I don’t think they make anything for the W124. I don’t recall ever doing a crossflow condensor in a W124. https://klimakit.com/products/ Can’t hurt to ask them. Maybe the sizes are close on one of the ones they make. -D > On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? > > Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was thinking > now is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have to change > the serp belt tensioner arm anyhow... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
R134a was mandated for use in 1994. The 124 got the facelift in 1994, so I'm not sure if the condenser is interchangeable, but if it is, Bob's your uncle c Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
What year is his car? I can look up the part number and see if it superseded. I wonder how they deal with that - I wonder if they can supply an R12 condensor with the laws and stuff, even though it was original equipment? -D > On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Since the 124 had 134 starting in 92-93 I’m sure the current part number is > probably parallel flow. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 14, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I got mine for a W126 from the Klima Works guys, but I don’t think they >> make anything for the W124. I don’t recall ever doing a crossflow condensor >> in a W124. >> >> https://klimakit.com/products/ >> >> Can’t hurt to ask them. Maybe the sizes are close on one of the ones they >> make. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? >>> >>> Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was thinking >>> now is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have to change the >>> serp belt tensioner arm anyhow... >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
Since the 124 had 134 starting in 92-93 I’m sure the current part number is probably parallel flow. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 14, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got mine for a W126 from the Klima Works guys, but I don’t think they make > anything for the W124. I don’t recall ever doing a crossflow condensor in a > W124. > > https://klimakit.com/products/ > > Can’t hurt to ask them. Maybe the sizes are close on one of the ones they > make. > > -D > >> On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? >> >> Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was thinking >> now is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have to change the >> serp belt tensioner arm anyhow... >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
I got mine for a W126 from the Klima Works guys, but I don’t think they make anything for the W124. I don’t recall ever doing a crossflow condensor in a W124. https://klimakit.com/products/ Can’t hurt to ask them. Maybe the sizes are close on one of the ones they make. -D > On Mar 14, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? > > Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was thinking now > is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have to change the serp > belt tensioner arm anyhow... > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] crossflow refrig condensor for 134a
Dan, where did you find the crossflow condensor for the SDL? Since the AC is flat, and this 300D was converted to 134A, I was thinking now is a good time to put in a crossflow condensor. I have to change the serp belt tensioner arm anyhow... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
