Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Larry T. typed:

Yep.  Just like the temp in my oven!!  *Very* dry but I wouldn't want to 
roam around in there --

The last few days have been middle rack hot (112-115). Today and tomorrow
are forecasted to be lower rack hot (116 - 120).

Yesterday, while driving home from license class around 1500hrs, it was 115
the radio said and my HVAC was making 60 degrees air. Not ideal but a 55
degree delta T isn't too bad.

It's on its way up now...85 at 0630 hrs.

Bob R.
Breathing Superheated Air, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread LarryT
Hi Bob,
I take it the AC clutch I sent you is operating as promised?  ;-)
There're pretty simple, huh?

Happy 4th Of July - viva la revolution!

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 Larry T. typed:

 Yep.  Just like the temp in my oven!!  *Very* dry but I wouldn't want to
 roam around in there --

 The last few days have been middle rack hot (112-115). Today and tomorrow
 are forecasted to be lower rack hot (116 - 120).

 Yesterday, while driving home from license class around 1500hrs, it was 
 115
 the radio said and my HVAC was making 60 degrees air. Not ideal but a 55
 degree delta T isn't too bad.

 It's on its way up now...85 at 0630 hrs.

 Bob R.
 Breathing Superheated Air, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Working like a champ!
They are simple, thankfully. The only hitch in the whole evolution was that
I broke the AC belt idler pulley...the piece that mounts it to the big
bracket. Had to make a trip to the boneyard and pay $25 for the one I found.
Something I did notice was that most of the W123s in the boneyard have their
engines missing now.

Bob R,
SPF Gazillion, AZ

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Hi Bob,
I take it the AC clutch I sent you is operating as promised?  ;-)
There're pretty simple, huh?

Happy 4th Of July - viva la revolution!

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 Larry T. typed:

 Yep.  Just like the temp in my oven!!  *Very* dry but I wouldn't want to
 roam around in there --

 The last few days have been middle rack hot (112-115). Today and tomorrow
 are forecasted to be lower rack hot (116 - 120).

 Yesterday, while driving home from license class around 1500hrs, it was 
 115
 the radio said and my HVAC was making 60 degrees air. Not ideal but a 55
 degree delta T isn't too bad.

 It's on its way up now...85 at 0630 hrs.

 Bob R.
 Breathing Superheated Air, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 06:43:06 -0700 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Breathing Superheated Air, AZ

Which part? I don't recall.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
Goodyear...west of PHX
91 at 0845 hrs

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 Breathing Superheated Air, AZ

Which part? I don't recall.


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:46:26 -0700 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Goodyear...west of PHX
 91 at 0845 hrs

Went to Google Maps and found it. Then went to the satellite view and
zoomed out some. Rather bleak around you. It's understandable with all
the extreme heat.

How do you keep cool? Swamp cooler? A/C? Small pool with lots of ice
cubes?



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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-04 Thread Robert Rentfro
In the house we are currently in, just A/C. In all our previous homes we've
had A/C, a swamp cooler and a pool. Kind of missing the pool this week.
It is Godforsakenly bleak around here. The only green places are golf
courses, resorts, and little patches of grass in yards people who just moved
here from back east have.
'Twas 118 on my patio today. That's retarded (as the kids say).

Bob R.

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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 08:46:26 -0700 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Goodyear...west of PHX
 91 at 0845 hrs

Went to Google Maps and found it. Then went to the satellite view and
zoomed out some. Rather bleak around you. It's understandable with all
the extreme heat.

How do you keep cool? Swamp cooler? A/C? Small pool with lots of ice
cubes?



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
I agree that 90+ with high humidity is worse than ~ 90-95 and low humidity.
All I was waying is that no matter how dry the air, 115 degrees is brutal
hot!



On 7/2/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought it was a scheme to get people to move away

 At the old nuke plant, the turbine building (the building with which the
 turbine/generator/pumps/steam piping etc live) gets around 120 to 125
 degrees in the summer and it's not a dry heat. It's wicked. After spending
 30 - 45 minutes taking rounds in there it feels cool and lovely stepping
 out
 to the 115 degree dry heat.
 The containment building is pretty much similar...only hotter.

 Bob R  (114 on patio in the shade today)

 Slow-cooked Spleen, AZ

 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

 Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and
 therefore
 somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
 stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to
 be.  It's
 all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,

 On 7/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  When its cold you just have to plan better. At -20 you remember to plug
 in
  the car or you don't go anywhere until it warms up.
  When I first graduated from highschool I spent a winter working for my
 old
  man surveying the rail link between Portland and Boston.
  We had one of the first data collectors which at the time was an HP
  palmtop computer, predecessor to today's PDA. Periodically the LCD
 screen
  would freeze. We always figured that was a good time to take a break.
 
  When its hot out what can you do? Fans, airconditioning, etc. I suppose
 at
  least in the dry heat you can run a swamp cooler...
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:23:07 -0400
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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  i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was
  very
  unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.
 
  the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i
  had to
  get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside
  in
  that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.
 
  60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.
  no
  bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread LarryT
Andrew wrote115 degrees is brutal hot!

Yep.  Just like the temp in my oven!!  *Very* dry but I wouldn't want to 
roam around in there -- 

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I agree that 90+ with high humidity is worse than ~ 90-95 and low humidity.
 All I was waying is that no matter how dry the air, 115 degrees is brutal
 hot!



 On 7/2/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought it was a scheme to get people to move away

 At the old nuke plant, the turbine building (the building with which the
 turbine/generator/pumps/steam piping etc live) gets around 120 to 125
 degrees in the summer and it's not a dry heat. It's wicked. After 
 spending
 30 - 45 minutes taking rounds in there it feels cool and lovely stepping
 out
 to the 115 degree dry heat.
 The containment building is pretty much similar...only hotter.

 Bob R  (114 on patio in the shade today)

 Slow-cooked Spleen, AZ

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:11 AM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

 Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and
 therefore
 somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
 stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to
 be.  It's
 all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,

 On 7/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  When its cold you just have to plan better. At -20 you remember to plug
 in
  the car or you don't go anywhere until it warms up.
  When I first graduated from highschool I spent a winter working for my
 old
  man surveying the rail link between Portland and Boston.
  We had one of the first data collectors which at the time was an HP
  palmtop computer, predecessor to today's PDA. Periodically the LCD
 screen
  would freeze. We always figured that was a good time to take a break.
 
  When its hot out what can you do? Fans, airconditioning, etc. I suppose
 at
  least in the dry heat you can run a swamp cooler...
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:23:07 -0400
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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  i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was
  very
  unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.
 
  the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i
  had to
  get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside
  in
  that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.
 
  60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.
  no
  bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day
 
 
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  Yahoo!
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread BillR
With cold I think it is the wind that makes the difference - humidity is not
much of a factor when it gets cold [? I don't think, except for snow and
sleet].  A friend from a Paraguay says they used to lie in the sun and tan
when it was in the 20's - shorts only, when the wind was dead calm.  Not a
problem to stay warm as long as you didn't move much.
BillR

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I used to see t-shirts in Tucson that showed a skeleton next to a
sahuaro and some tumbleweed. The skeleton was proclaiming that it was
a dry heat.

110 + temps are really not bad unless you have to work in them or do
something unpleasant. I suppose sub zero days are not bad either
unless I have to go to work in them.

I think the LCD is that I hate work.

Brian




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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes, wind + cold = evil.

To this day, I still don't know how it works with humidity and cold.
I've been told that humidity makes it feel colder, but I have been
told the opposite too. Through all my MN winters, I couldn't figure it
out. I do know, though, that one's skin gets very dry there in the
winter.

I'm sure some of the scientifically-inclined will chime in and answer
my mystery, yes?

Brian

On 7/3/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With cold I think it is the wind that makes the difference - humidity is not
 much of a factor when it gets cold [? I don't think, except for snow and
 sleet].  A friend from a Paraguay says they used to lie in the sun and tan
 when it was in the 20's - shorts only, when the wind was dead calm.  Not a
 problem to stay warm as long as you didn't move much.
 BillR

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 I used to see t-shirts in Tucson that showed a skeleton next to a
 sahuaro and some tumbleweed. The skeleton was proclaiming that it was
 a dry heat.

 110 + temps are really not bad unless you have to work in them or do
 something unpleasant. I suppose sub zero days are not bad either
 unless I have to go to work in them.

 I think the LCD is that I hate work.

 Brian




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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:38:54 -0700 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, wind + cold = evil.
 
 To this day, I still don't know how it works with humidity and cold.
 I've been told that humidity makes it feel colder, but I have been
 told the opposite too. 

When my father was in the Naval reserve, he traveled from Miles City,
Montana, which was -30 F to Tacoma, Washington, which was +30 F. He said
it felt colder on the dock in Tacoma in the same clothing.


 Through all my MN winters, I couldn't figure it out. I do know, though,
 that one's skin gets very dry there in the winter.
 
 I'm sure some of the scientifically-inclined will chime in and answer
 my mystery, yes?

Yes.

Your skin gets dry, not because you're outside when it's cold, but because
you're inside when it's cold.

Humidity is actually RELATIVE humidity: the percent humidity is relative
to how much water vapor air at a given temperature will hold [not the
actual terminology, but a useful first understanding, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity]. So a relative
humidity of 30% means that the air is holding 30% of the amount of water
it can possibly hold at that temperature.

Now it turns out, that the hotter it is, the more water vapor the air can
hold. That is, say the air is 40 F. At 100% humidity, the amount of water
in the air will be about 8 grams per kilogram of air. If the air is 104 F,
100% humidity will mean 50 grams water per kilogram of air. Likewise, if
the air is -4 F, 100% humidity will mean about 2 grams water per kilogram
of air.

So, say it's -4 F and 50% humidity outside. That means there is 1 gram of
water per kilogram of air. Now you bring the air inside and warm it up to
68 F. At this temperature, 100% humidity would mean about 14 grams of
water per kilogram of air, but you have only 1 gram of water per kilogram
of air. Thus the humidity inside is 1/14 = 7% and it's MUCH drier.

Does that help?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread BillR
Quite interesting for me, anyway.  Thanks 
BillR

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:38:54 -0700 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, wind + cold = evil.
 
 To this day, I still don't know how it works with humidity and cold.
 I've been told that humidity makes it feel colder, but I have been
 told the opposite too. 

When my father was in the Naval reserve, he traveled from Miles City,
Montana, which was -30 F to Tacoma, Washington, which was +30 F. He said
it felt colder on the dock in Tacoma in the same clothing.


 Through all my MN winters, I couldn't figure it out. I do know, though,
 that one's skin gets very dry there in the winter.
 
 I'm sure some of the scientifically-inclined will chime in and answer
 my mystery, yes?

Yes.

Your skin gets dry, not because you're outside when it's cold, but because
you're inside when it's cold.

Humidity is actually RELATIVE humidity: the percent humidity is relative
to how much water vapor air at a given temperature will hold [not the
actual terminology, but a useful first understanding, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity]. So a relative
humidity of 30% means that the air is holding 30% of the amount of water
it can possibly hold at that temperature.

Now it turns out, that the hotter it is, the more water vapor the air can
hold. That is, say the air is 40 F. At 100% humidity, the amount of water
in the air will be about 8 grams per kilogram of air. If the air is 104 F,
100% humidity will mean 50 grams water per kilogram of air. Likewise, if
the air is -4 F, 100% humidity will mean about 2 grams water per kilogram
of air.

So, say it's -4 F and 50% humidity outside. That means there is 1 gram of
water per kilogram of air. Now you bring the air inside and warm it up to
68 F. At this temperature, 100% humidity would mean about 14 grams of
water per kilogram of air, but you have only 1 gram of water per kilogram
of air. Thus the humidity inside is 1/14 = 7% and it's MUCH drier.

Does that help?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:45:53 -0600, Craig wrote:

 Yes.
 
 Your skin gets dry, not because you're outside when it's cold, but because
 you're inside when it's cold.
 
 Humidity is actually RELATIVE humidity: the percent humidity is relative
 to how much water vapor air at a given temperature will hold [not the
 actual terminology, but a useful first understanding, see
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity]. So a relative
 humidity of 30% means that the air is holding 30% of the amount of water
 it can possibly hold at that temperature.

 ** snip a bunch of good stuff **

Another way that humidity is measured is by the dew point -
that is, the air temperature at which the given mass of water
will end up being 100% relative humidity. This number doesn't
change with the temperature.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-03 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yeah, that is good info. Thanks. I'll read it over a second and third
time. My mind can be slow on the pick up.

Brian

Craig wrote:
So, say it's -4 F and 50% humidity outside. That means there is 1 gram of
water per kilogram of air. Now you bring the air inside and warm it up to
68 F. At this temperature, 100% humidity would mean about 14 grams of
water per kilogram of air, but you have only 1 gram of water per kilogram
of air. Thus the humidity inside is 1/14 = 7% and it's MUCH drier.

Does that help?

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list -hijacked to just plain cold

2007-07-02 Thread BillR
Yes, it does.  There is a qualitative difference at about 7 to 10F, when the
corners of your mouth and eyes start to ice up.  It got down to -24F once
where I lived in Indiana, and walking around outside is quite different from
10F.  I drove 65 miles on the interstate that day and my car was sending out
as much vapor clouds when I got done as it did when I started the car.  My
eldest is moving to Alaska in a few months [with our soon to be born
granddaughter], and they need to get the cars ready for as much as -70F for
some winter travel for supplies, though where they will live does not get
much colder than it does here in Jacksonville [USCG station in Valdez].  At
10F at least you don't have to worry about the differential freezing solid
on you or the flat spot on the tires becoming permanent.  I liked living in
S. Florida, personally, though my Spanish was not good enough to spend much
time in Miami.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
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Believe me, when it gets below about 10F, it doesn't
make any difference.

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread LarryT
When I lived in the mountains of western MD we had a storm blow thru with 
temp around -15f one night - very windy producing a windchill of -90F.  It 
found a little opening in my basement siding  blew against a water pipe  
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 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was 
 very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i had 
 to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.  no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

 On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)

 Ed

 On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
  degrees on my patio today.
 
  Bob R
  Hubs of Hades, AZ
 
 
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  I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee
 
  Ed
  300E
 
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   I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
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   --R
   
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
When it gets 60 here, people are reaching for jackets. I was in -28F in IL
in the winter of '78 (I think).
115F can be experienced two ways: either windy (like looking into a blow
dryer on hot/high) or no windy (open the oven door after it's preheated to
450 or so and hold your face there).
 It's 6am and it's 82gee, do I need a sweater?

Bob R.
Lavaland, AZ

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i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was very
unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i had to
get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside in
that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.  no
bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)

 Ed

 On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
  degrees on my patio today.
 
  Bob R
  Hubs of Hades, AZ
 
 
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  I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
   sharp-dressed man.
  
   --R
   
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond

When its cold you just have to plan better. At -20 you remember to plug in the 
car or you don't go anywhere until it warms up.
When I first graduated from highschool I spent a winter working for my old man 
surveying the rail link between Portland and Boston.
We had one of the first data collectors which at the time was an HP palmtop 
computer, predecessor to today's PDA. Periodically the LCD screen would freeze. 
We always figured that was a good time to take a break.

When its hot out what can you do? Fans, airconditioning, etc. I suppose at 
least in the dry heat you can run a swamp cooler...

-Curt

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i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was
 very
unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i
 had to
get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside
 in
that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.
  no
bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

   
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and therefore
somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to be.  It's
all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,

On 7/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 When its cold you just have to plan better. At -20 you remember to plug in
 the car or you don't go anywhere until it warms up.
 When I first graduated from highschool I spent a winter working for my old
 man surveying the rail link between Portland and Boston.
 We had one of the first data collectors which at the time was an HP
 palmtop computer, predecessor to today's PDA. Periodically the LCD screen
 would freeze. We always figured that was a good time to take a break.

 When its hot out what can you do? Fans, airconditioning, etc. I suppose at
 least in the dry heat you can run a swamp cooler...

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:23:07 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was
 very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i
 had to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside
 in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.
 no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread Luther
Sure, visit western Arkansas in August.  105 at 50-70% humidity is HORRIBLE
compared to the desert heat they complain about.  I should know, was just in
Death Valley 1.5 weeks ago. 

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Quoting andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and therefore
 somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
 stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to be.  It's
 all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,



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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
There are degrees of oppressiveness.  I'm not a lover of cold temps, but any
time the temperature surpasses 100 degrees equates to misery for me,
regardless of the humidity.

On 7/2/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sure, visit western Arkansas in August.  105 at 50-70% humidity is
 HORRIBLE
 compared to the desert heat they complain about.  I should know, was
 just in
 Death Valley 1.5 weeks ago.

 --
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 Quoting andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and
 therefore
  somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
  stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to
 be.  It's
  all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,
 


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread John Freer
Wait a minute...so you don't mind 90 degrees at 80% humidity? That equates
to about 115 degrees with no humidity.

Having lived in both types of climates, low humidity heat is definitely more
comfortable than humid stuff.


On 7/2/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There are degrees of oppressiveness.  I'm not a lover of cold temps, but
 any
 time the temperature surpasses 100 degrees equates to misery for me,
 regardless of the humidity.

 On 7/2/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Sure, visit western Arkansas in August.  105 at 50-70% humidity is
  HORRIBLE
  compared to the desert heat they complain about.  I should know, was
  just in
  Death Valley 1.5 weeks ago.
 
  --
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  '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head
  '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD!
  '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
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  Quoting andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and
  therefore
   somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
   stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to
  be.  It's
   all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread Zoltan Finks
I remember riding a motorcycle in Phoenix summer. The heat would
radiate up off the roadway and raise the temp well over ambient. This
is when you really feel the heat of your engine too.

I recall on one trip from Tucson to Phx, I said to a gas station guy
that I never want to see the sun again. Talk about the question of
whether light colors keep things cooler - I know that I would sooner
wear a white helmet than a black one - goofy looking or not.

Wearing a mandatory helmet in Maryland summers sucked too. The only
helmet I owned was a full-face.

Brian

On 7/2/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When it gets 60 here, people are reaching for jackets. I was in -28F in IL
 in the winter of '78 (I think).
 115F can be experienced two ways: either windy (like looking into a blow
 dryer on hot/high) or no windy (open the oven door after it's preheated to
 450 or so and hold your face there).
  It's 6am and it's 82gee, do I need a sweater?

 Bob R.
 Lavaland, AZ

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:23 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i had to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.  no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

 On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)
 
  Ed
 
  On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
   degrees on my patio today.
  
   Bob R
   Hubs of Hades, AZ
  
  
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   I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee
  
   Ed
   300E
  
   On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
sharp-dressed man.
   
--R

  
  
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
I thought it was a scheme to get people to move away

At the old nuke plant, the turbine building (the building with which the
turbine/generator/pumps/steam piping etc live) gets around 120 to 125
degrees in the summer and it's not a dry heat. It's wicked. After spending
30 - 45 minutes taking rounds in there it feels cool and lovely stepping out
to the 115 degree dry heat.
The containment building is pretty much similar...only hotter.

Bob R  (114 on patio in the shade today)

Slow-cooked Spleen, AZ

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

Has anyone ever experienced 110 degree heat that wasn't dry and therefore
somehow innocuous?  I have visited Phoenix in July and the heat felt
stiflingly oppressive no matter how dry the locals claimed it to be.  It's
all a scheme to get people to move out there,,,

On 7/2/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 When its cold you just have to plan better. At -20 you remember to plug in
 the car or you don't go anywhere until it warms up.
 When I first graduated from highschool I spent a winter working for my old
 man surveying the rail link between Portland and Boston.
 We had one of the first data collectors which at the time was an HP
 palmtop computer, predecessor to today's PDA. Periodically the LCD screen
 would freeze. We always figured that was a good time to take a break.

 When its hot out what can you do? Fans, airconditioning, etc. I suppose at
 least in the dry heat you can run a swamp cooler...

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 23:23:07 -0400
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was
 very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i
 had to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside
 in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.
 no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-01 Thread Robert Rentfro

I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
degrees on my patio today.

Bob R
Hubs of Hades, AZ


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I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
 sharp-dressed man.

 --R
 

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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-01 Thread E M
Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)

Ed

On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
 degrees on my patio today.

 Bob R
 Hubs of Hades, AZ


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of E M
 Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:40 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the Texans on the list

 I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee

 Ed
 300E

 On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
  sharp-dressed man.
 
  --R
  


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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-01 Thread Gary Hurst
i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was very
unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i had to
get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside in
that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.  no
bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)

 Ed

 On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
  degrees on my patio today.
 
  Bob R
  Hubs of Hades, AZ
 
 
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the Texans on the list
 
  I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
   sharp-dressed man.
  
   --R
   
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-01 Thread LWB250
Believe me, when it gets below about 10F, it doesn't
make any difference.

Dan


--- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a
 dry heat too.  it was very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.
 
 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a
 humid climate.  i had to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15
 minutes working outside in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40
 below.
 
 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my
 favorite season.  no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day
 
 On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)
 
  Ed
 
  On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
   I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives
 here, It's too hot. 115
   degrees on my patio today.
  
   Bob R
   Hubs of Hades, AZ
  
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:40 PM
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   Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the Texans on the list
  
   I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have
 it chopped. hee hee
  
   Ed
   300E
  
   On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around
 occasionally.  He is one
sharp-dressed man.
   
--R

  
  
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Re: [MBZ] for the AZ-ers on the list

2007-07-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Put in my time it both extremes.

Brian

On 7/1/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i've never experienced higher than 107.  it was a dry heat too.  it was very
 unpleasant, but still no more so than 90 in georgia.

 the coldest i ever experienced was -17F, also in a humid climate.  i had to
 get the car started and probably spent about 15 minutes working outside in
 that weather.  i don't get how people live in 40 below.

 60 is a good temperature.  winter here is perhaps my favorite season.  no
 bugs, but still gets warm enough during the day

 On 7/1/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yeah, but it's a dry heat. :-)
 
  Ed
 
  On 01/07/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   I've seen...ahhher.no sane human lives here, It's too hot. 115
   degrees on my patio today.
  
   Bob R
   Hubs of Hades, AZ
  
  
   -Original Message-
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   On Behalf Of E M
   Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:40 PM
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   Subject: Re: [MBZ] for the Texans on the list
  
   I hear he's having it sent off to Boyd to have it chopped. hee hee
  
   Ed
   300E
  
   On 01/07/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I see Billy Gibbons driving a Benz around occasionally.  He is one
sharp-dressed man.
   
--R

  
  
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