Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
When I was in Indianapolis last weekend I saw regular unleaded for $3.59. I topped off the rental car on it. -D > On Aug 3, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > $3.99 for regular and $$5.49 for diesel in Whitehall, Michigan today. > > Michael E. Esh > > >> On Aug 3,

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mike, move to MD and in a few years your moving costs will be recouped by the savings in diesel purchases. On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 2:46 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > $3.99 for regular and $$5.49 for diesel in Whitehall, Michigan today. > > Michael E. Esh > > > > On

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
$3.99 for regular and $$5.49 for diesel in Whitehall, Michigan today. Michael E. Esh > On Aug 3, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have traveled to the great northern estate once again. Lowest fillup of > the trip (regular gasoline) was $4.29, highest was $4.59.

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In our circuit from DC - Pittsburgh - New Phil. OH - DC we saw one service stn. selling diesel for under $5/gallon ($4.79 to be exact - in Dover, OH). In second place was a New Phil. OH BP selling diesel at $5.19/gal. This compares to $4.79 at the Liberty in Gaithersburg, MD. It pays to

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I have traveled to the great northern estate once again. Lowest fillup of the trip (regular gasoline) was $4.29, highest was $4.59. It's normal for the north to have higher priced gas, the trucking cost is significant. Looks like today it's down $0.10. Irritatingly I left the gas cans at camp

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That's how we measure aircraft costs - $/hr. Our Cessna burns 11.5 gal/hour at our normal cruise settings. I saw that non-ethanol 87 oct. gas is 3.79/gal today at our usual station, so that works out to $43.59/hour for fuel. We haven't been flying it enough recently, and did some significant

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
We're at roughly $4.55/g for 87UL and 5.59/g for diesel right now. On Wed, Aug 3, 2022, at 11:53, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > This morning I paid $169.9/l  for regular. The previous fill was, I > believe, $1.79.9/l. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Wed, Aug 3, 2022, at 11:12, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > The truck also records time and since the last fill, I have had it > running for 9.6 hours and that works out to about $16.87 dollars per > hour. ... Somehow, cost per hour seems every bit as useful as miles > per gallon. Yes,

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
This morning I paid $169.9/l  for regular. The previous fill was, I believe, $1.79.9/l. On 03/08/2022 11:48 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 11:12:53 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: The computer in the truck said we were down to about 11.7 l per 100 K at one point

Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 11:12:53 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > The computer in the truck said we were down to about 11.7 l per 100 K > at one point but by the time we got home it was back up around 12.1. > > In any event, my numbers likely won't mean much to you folks south of

[MBZ] fuel mileage

2022-08-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
We went to a family gathering on Sunday and came back on Monday. The trip was about 750 K so about 465 M. The computer in the truck said we were down to about 11.7 l per 100 K at one point but by the time we got home it was back up around 12.1. I filled up this morning as fuel prices have

[MBZ] Fuel mileage on the $600E320 and OIL

2019-12-01 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Drove up to Chapel Hill and around there a bit, 325mi or so on about 3/4 of tank, fillup showed 29.7mpg for the trip, cruising at 75-80 most of the way which I thought was pretty good.  It did burn or blow a bit of oil, which the lady I bought it from mentioned, will need to see what that is

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Not to mention that the gasoline ruins the taste in my martinis. On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Since ethanol has been added for gasoline as an oxygen carrier for more > than 40 years, it's not very likely that it causes damage to

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Since ethanol has been added for gasoline as an oxygen carrier for more than 40 years, it's not very likely that it causes damage to fuel systems unless they are very poorly designed (take note GM, this isn't 1955, eh?) Flex fuel vehicles can run on 85% ethanol, most "non flexfuel" vehicles

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread MG via Mercedes
only 100%. But, is E20 and E30 harmful because of the higher ethanol? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Pre

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Anything built after about 1985 or so should be ok. E10 first came out 44 years ago or more. Anything made within the last 35 years or so should be made with materials resistant to alcohol, excepting exotic furrin cars. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes July 3, 2017

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
ssion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment I never had that problem using 89 E10 regular Peter Frederick via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> June 29, 2017 at 7:21 AM There is also the point that using mid-grade in my TE bu

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-07-03 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
only 100%. But, is E20 and E30 harmful because of the higher ethanol? Don Snook -Original Message- From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 12:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Pre

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I never had that problem using 89 E10 regular Peter Frederick via Mercedes June 29, 2017 at 7:21 AM There is also the point that using mid-grade in my TE burns off the spark plug electrodes, too -- no knock sensor. I always use premium in it, just the cost of

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
ng premium. > Isn't that correct? > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Frederick [mailto:psf...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:27 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fue

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-29 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
5:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment Typically there is a knock sensor on the engine, and ignition timing is retarded when you get knock, may also richen the fuel. The difference can be 10% or more, dep

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-29 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
There is also the point that using mid-grade in my TE burns off the spark plug electrodes, too -- no knock sensor. I always use premium in it, just the cost of having a Benz. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
When I had them the E10 here was 89. they have since dropped it to 87. But the M116 has run for 8 yrs on a steady diet of 87 regular. No problems related to fuel. It did break a cheep prastic chain guide, and needed rubber hoses for the idle air, but those are not fuel related. BTW, the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 103 and 104 requires premium. You have not had any problems running them on 87? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > i have run all the various MB vergassers on E10 regular since it became > available over 40

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
i have run all the various MB vergassers on E10 regular since it became available over 40 years ago. 220Sb (M180), 230TE (M121), 300TE (M103), E320(M104) and 380SL (M116). No problems, no pinging. They are so proud of their spremium around here i quit looking at prices or considering it

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve heard this and I’ve heard that there’s a risk of damaging the catalyst, but for the life of me I’ve never found anything that clearly states this. Certainly there could be damage if you were driving the car hard and there was a lot of detonation, but as others have stated, the engine

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Isn't there a risk of engine damage over the long term when burning > regular in a car designed for premium? Only in the cars that don't adapt. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Isn't there a risk of engine damage over the long term when burning regular in a car designed for premium? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 28, 2017 7:03:49 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >Around here, buying Premium is the difference

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > $25.87 a mile is pretty high... I don't know, that X5's probably getting pretty close to there by now... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Around here, buying Premium is the difference between paying $2.82 a gallon or $2.22. I could never justify that solely on an MPG basis. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Typically there is a knock sensor on the engine, and ignition timing is retarded when you get knock, may also richen the fuel. The difference can be 10% or more, depending on driving conditions and fuel, but usually it's cheaper to use premium. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
;mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com<mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment True. The cost per mile at 23 MPG with 87 was $25.87. And the cost a

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
was).  If I got 26 mpg, the cost would have been identical. Don Snook From: Jim Cathey [mailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
From: Jim Cathey [mailto:jim.cathey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment Based on my experiment, premium does offe

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Based on my experiment, premium does offer advantages on my car. With > better performance and power, it took less fuel to drive the same road at > the same speed. Yes, but you have not yet calculated the fuel cost per mile, which is probably what a serious road-tripper would be interested

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

2017-06-28 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I decided to try an experiment on fuel mileage on my BMW. I have had to travel a lot lately and thought a (admittedly unsophisticated) experiment might be interesting. My car is a 1999 BMW 740iL. It is a big heavy car and I have been consistently surprised by the fuel mileage. In the last

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage Experience, but not Benz

2008-07-20 Thread Rich Thomas
So I sorta absorbed my dad's 98 Caddy DeVille. Front wheel drive, Northstar engine, nice ride, handles pretty well, lots of power, 57k miles on the clock. Just took about a 1000 mile road trip yesterday and today in it. Finally learned to twiddle the computer Information Center in the car.

Re: [MBZ] Fuel mileage

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Thompson
Donald, Should be pretty comparable to the sedan. I think they're about the same weight. I get about 22-23 for my usual 70/30 driving. Got more like 25 on a whole tank aat 75MPH this weekend. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 4/14/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what the gas

[MBZ] Fuel mileage

2008-04-14 Thread Donald Snook
Anyone know what the gas mileage would be for a 1995 300CE (with the 104?)? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey
does not foam. When it shuts off I leave it alone and remove the fill nozzle from the port. I hope this provides a consistent filling method. I do not think it does. I top off exclusively, and the amount of topping off required varies quite a bit due to the highly- variable amount of

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Fuel consumption will vary with driving conditions (wet roads use more power, the water drags on the tires), cool damp weather gives more hp from the water vapor in the air, AC use (climate control, remember, it's automatic) can use a mpg or so, idling time, number of hard acceleration

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Harry Watkins
My daughter sent this: TIPS ON PUMPING GAS I don't know what you are paying for gasoline but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread LarryT
PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies does not foam. When it shuts off I leave it alone and remove the fill nozzle from the port. I hope this provides a consistent filling method. I do not think

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey
I'll try topping up the tank as you suggest, but I'm wondering how much extra fuel goes into the tank by topping off? A quart maybe? That's true of the gasser SL's, certainly. But the diesels all have a considerably greater amount that you can get into them, and that amount varies quite a

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
My new Subaru gasser has a MPG indicator driven by the engine computer. It indicates instantaneous MPG (which is useless because it jumps with every twitch of the gas pedal) or average MPG since last reset. It consistently reads about 1/2 to 1 MPG high based on manual calculations at each fillup.

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Robert Rentfro
Scott told us about his Subaru: It indicates instantaneous MPG (which is useless because it jumps with every twitch of the gas pedal) or average MPG since last reset. It consistently reads about 1/2 to 1 MPG high based on manual calculations at each fill up. I wondered about that. I watch the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Diesels suffer less from milage drop in city driving than gassers. Not sure why, but I suspect it's because they use MUCH less fuel idling (gas engines have to run WAY rich at idle to keep them running) and gassers use more fuel on acceleration, too, I think. My Volvo, my old 300D, my

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread LarryT
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies I'll try topping up the tank as you suggest, but I'm wondering how much extra fuel goes

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread ernest breakfield
i found the computer in a Volvo i once owned to consistently lie about what mileage we were getting; calculating manually always showed us to be receiving worse than what was reported. cheers! e Robert Rentfro wrote: Scott told us about his Subaru: It indicates instantaneous MPG (which is

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread ernest breakfield
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread John Freer
Bob, It's real close on my CDI when I do a manual calculation vs. what the readout says. John On 4/13/08, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott told us about his Subaru: It indicates instantaneous MPG (which is useless because it jumps with every twitch of the gas pedal) or average

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey
And the more fuel that goes in means that less mpg's were achieved - On one side of the short fill-up. But the next one may get erroneously _high_ marks. That's why I top off, for consistency of the mileage calculations. It doesn't affect the true mileage you get at all, just the 'jitter' in

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-12 Thread ernest breakfield
resetting the trip meter every time? letting the pump run slow until the nozzle shots off the first time and not topping it off? dividing the gallons pumped into the mileage indicated on the trip meter? if yes to all, then i won't guess what might be causing such a variance,... cheers! e

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-12 Thread Hendrik Fay
There may be a fault in the fuel injection system, we haven't had a discussion of the ALDA for a while. Hendrik ernest breakfield wrote: resetting the trip meter every time? letting the pump run slow until the nozzle shots off the first time and not topping it off? dividing the gallons

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-12 Thread LarryT
://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies resetting the trip meter every time? letting the pump run slow

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread LarryT
Hi Ya'll - I check my mpg's everytime I fill up. For some reason it changes even though my wife's driving is consistant - she drives to and from work each day, no AC needed, no hard acceleration needed, stuff like that - and yet her mpg;s will be 32mpgs one time and 28.5 the next. We fill

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Kraly
How often do you check tire pressure? Is it just after a tire inflation when the mileage goes up? Perhaps, it's merely the change in wind directionn. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread Loren Faeth
How full is full? Now car made in the past 25 years at least allows you tell how full the tank really is. Now in my 110 200D, you can see the level of the fuel in the tank. I don't trust any one tank mpg number. I want an average of at least 10 tanks before I think I have a reliable

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread LarryT
] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies How full is full? Now car made in the past 25 years at least allows you tell how full the tank really is. Now in my 110 200D, you can see the level of the fuel

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
With my diesels, I fill the damn tank till it fills up to the top of the filler neck. Takes a while to let the foam settle. Loren Faeth wrote: How full is full? Now car made in the past 25 years at least allows you tell how full the tank really is. Now in my 110 200D, you can see the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage varies

2008-04-11 Thread Jim Cathey
I check my mpg's everytime I fill up. For some reason it changes even though my wife's driving is consistent My wife doesn't fill the tank as full as I do. So that skews things a bit if I calculate based on one of her prior fillups, or vice-versa. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I was always the classsmartass, esp in physics. In high school my physics tchr marked me wrong on a test for Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, where I said it was position and momentum (not velocity). I argued mightily I was correct to no avail til he told me to shut up. So I went to the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
That's energy not momentum. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still applies? It's an inelastic collision, so what applies is, 12

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:04:39 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's energy not momentum. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
doesn't even know I am there..Maybe they don't. Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Absolutely understandable. I always question

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-28 Thread Mike Canfield
-Whizz has better crash scores...Oh wait, they don't even test bikes for that do they? Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage On Sun, 27

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Exactly. Those who are physically capable should try to ride a bike for short trips once in a while. And even those not physically capable should consider if they could skip a trip a week or something. Brian Peter wrote: The real solution is not to drive as much, and I've gotten into the habit

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-28 Thread Peter Frederick
I sincerely wish that I could safely ride a bike around here, but with high speed SUV traffic on narrow, shoulder-free roads, it's asking for severe injury or death. Likewise it would not bother me at all to walk a couple miles to the train or bus stop to take one of them to work, beats the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
Absolutely understandable. I always question whether I'm getting paranoid, but it seems drivers are getting worse by the month. Red light running and cel phone talking in particular. Often when I think someone is intentionally driving agressively toward me, I find a little girl yapping on a cel

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-28 Thread Mike Canfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Absolutely understandable. I always question whether I'm getting paranoid, but it seems drivers are getting worse by the month. Red light running and cel phone

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Kevin Kraly
It's all in the marketing. People are told that their hybrid is helping the environment, and that's a good thing to help pollution and be more green, lots of hipe. I'll just stick with my Diesels. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Redghost
Microscum slave next door just had the sales folks over yesterday to demonstrate cars at his house. He trades the saturn for a toyota. He was looking at the camry hybrid, but settled on the prius. He was strutting his stuff about what a great move he had made. I did not feel the need to

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Maybe the Prius has some good points, but I notice that the people who drive them seem to be 1) holier than thou-looking types (I know, that is a bad way to put it, but when you look at someone you can usually get a half-decent read of their personality) with progressive stickers on the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Redghost
Not sure what his little mind was up to. He spewed out three kids in 18 months, had no room in the one car, so had to get his wife a minivan, he sees two other prius on the block, three hybrid honda, so maybe he joins the crowd? I have seen an increase the number of three point star cars

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Peter Frederick
There is no environmental gain from using chargeable hybrids -- you just replace using gasoline or diesel for the much higher carbon output coal fired power plant (with huge transmission loses, as they never build the plants were the power is used, they stick us poor midwesterners with them).

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Mike Canfield
- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage There is no environmental gain from using chargeable hybrids -- you just replace using gasoline or diesel for the much higher carbon

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Charge cars at night with base load nuke power (put them closer to where the power is needed, NIMBY be damned) then supplement with (energy-efficient) biofuels, makes sense to me. My issue with little electrics and commuter cars to use for putting around town is the cell-phone yappers in

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still applies? It's an inelastic collision, so what applies is, 12 1 2 --- m v= --- m v 21

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-27 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:19:58 -0400 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A small commuter car, the G-Wiz has been available in the UK for some 3 years now, and it is gainig popularity in London, mainly because it is excempt the £8 daily congestion charge, and parking is free at many

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-26 Thread Walt Lasher
On my '92 W140 S350/300SD I get 30.0 on the road. This is with me, 35 lbs in the trunk and a full tank of fuel (BTW, with this configuration I have 2500 lbs on the front axel and 2500 lbs on the rear axel) for a total of 5000 lbs In town I get anywhere from 26 to 28 depending on how much the

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-26 Thread Peter Frederick
I've wondered why there were no diesel hybrids, it seems to me very obvious. Hybrids are ONLY better in stop and go traffice, where the regenerative braking cancels out the fuel usage from acceleration. On the highway, they get slightly worse milage than the equivalent non-hybrid. I've

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 26 May 2007 13:41:48 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hybrids are ONLY better in stop and go traffice, where the regenerative braking cancels out the fuel usage from acceleration. On the highway, they get slightly worse milage than the equivalent non-hybrid. Yes,

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-26 Thread Redghost
There is a nut job with a VW rabbit that he runs as electric, but has an outboard rabbit front end set up as trailer running the diesel motor. He uses it to power his electric car for normal travel, but when it needs a boost, he engages the driveshaft and has it push his car up hill or

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-24 Thread R A Bennell
I have been keeping a record of all fuel purchases and mileage over the past couple of summers since I acquired the car (don't use it in winter). I have just entered it into a spreadsheet. My 76 115 300D is averaging 20.66 mpg over the past 3973 miles. A high of 23.19 and a low of 18.09 on a mix

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2007-05-23 Thread Gary Thompson
My 75 Blazer with 400 and full time 4-wheel drive never met a gas pump it didn't like. I used to get roughly 8MPG. Didn't seem to matter what I was pulling, though. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 5/22/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My brother has a 1973 Cadillac Sedan Deville. It has

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2007-05-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Had a 75 GMC pickup with the same setup.8MPG pulling the loaded trailer or running empty. Mike - Original Message - From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel mileage

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2007-05-22 Thread Donald Snook
Curt wrote: The best I got with my '83 240D was 28mpg. I think it was happiest between 60 and 65mph which seems to be about the same as my 190D. The best I ever got in my (now OK Don's) 1990 300D 2.5 was 34 mpg. That was exclusively highway miles. Most of the time it was more like

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2007-05-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Interesting: I was thinking about sharing with y'all the mileage I have recently gotten in my '83 240D: 32.6 mpg. - on a mix of maybe 60 - 75% highway and the rest pretty much city. Needless to say, I'm tickled. And the engine is pretty peppy. Guess I got a good used engine from TriStar Auto, or

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-01-11 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Donald Snook wrote: I have been seeing these numbers for exceptional fuel mileage on all sorts of cars and most of it surprises me. Now, I would never have believed that the 90 300D 2.5 I used to have would get 34 mpg, but it did. However, I am genuinely surprised to

[MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-01-10 Thread Donald Snook
I have been seeing these numbers for exceptional fuel mileage on all sorts of cars and most of it surprises me. Now, I would never have believed that the 90 300D 2.5 I used to have would get 34 mpg, but it did. However, I am genuinely surprised to hear about 123's getting such good mileage.

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-01-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
A lot of 123s (mine included) barely get 20-21 mpg; mine are mostly exercised in city driving. 1983 300TD 1985 300CD On 1/10/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been seeing these numbers for exceptional fuel mileage on all sorts of cars and most of it surprises me. Now, I would

[MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

2006-04-28 Thread kayoooh @ gmail
Hello List, I am wondering if there is a portable or a semi portable mileage computer available out there for diesel cars and or trucks! I know of ones that are available for boats with diesel engines and I imagine the same could be available for automobiles. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel

Re: [MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

2006-04-28 Thread Trampas
Omar, I have build a engine monitor which can be used as fuel computer. www.sterntech.com Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kayoooh @ gmail Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Fuel mileage

Re: [MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

2006-04-28 Thread Jim Cathey
I am wondering if there is a portable or a semi portable mileage computer available out there for diesel cars and or trucks! In the Dodge diesel pickup the factory mileage computer is open-loop, in that it's not measuring fuel consumption at all. (This is difficult to do, especially with a

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread Kayoooh
Message: 14 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:49:02 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel engines To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel engines To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Both are good vehicles. The 6.2 might be a little better because it wont have

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread LT Don
/96transam/rpocodes.html Kayoooh wrote: Message: 14 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:49:02 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel engines To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
is it diesel? LT Don wrote: There is a 'burban at a local car lot that I am eyeballing. On 12/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D,

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread LT Don
Probably not - but this is the WRONG night to try to convince me to buy a diesel anything. On 12/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it diesel? LT Don wrote: There is a 'burban at a local car lot that I am eyeballing. On 12/2/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage of a Suburban with 6.2 6.5 Diesel

2005-12-02 Thread OK Don
Hey - it's not the Diesels fault that you have a weak battery -- -- On 12/1/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably not - but this is the WRONG night to try to convince me to buy a diesel anything. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created

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