05, 2010 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] glowing in the cold
Get an electric heater, put it in the passenger footwell and remember to turn
it on before you get out at night. Run an extension cord through the firewall
up to where the block heater plug is. Put a tee extension cord
Tim, Curt is several steps ahead of both of us...
-Max
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Maybe you
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane
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For giggles, I just tried starting the 240D with -5F temps outside, and
-15F when I woke up this morning
My guess would be that you have something very wrong. If the block heater
has been plugged in for at least a week, the engine should be warm to the
touch, and start without any special procedures. Perhaps you block heater
isn't functioning?
Jaime
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Wonko the
Low compression? Valves adjusted in past several months?
-Max
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For giggles, I just tried starting the 240D with -5F temps outside, and -15F
when I
For giggles, I just tried starting the 240D with -5F temps outside, and -15F
when I woke up this morning. The block heater has been plugged in non-stop
for at least the last week and the car was driven on Christmas day. 60
seconds preglow, cranked a while (did NOT crank until the battery
I submit that your block heater doesn't work or the valves have gotten
tight.
If the block heater's working, slightly tight valves are negated
since they won't get cold enough to hang open.
If it's quiet you can usually hear it sizzling if it's working.
Doesn't take much traffic noise to cover
My wife unsolicited last night said the mamabenz SD was being a bit
balky. Exploring that idea a bit further suggested it was not
starting as easily in the 20sF temps we have had as it does in the 90s.
I told her to let it glow a bit longer (it usually lights off after
about 5sec of glowing,
I thought the block heaters were all 500W?
-Max
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I thought the block heaters were all 500W?
-Max
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I thought the block heaters were all 500W?
-Max
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:32:33 -0500
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Max,
I can't really tell the difference in how quickly I get heat, its the center
I DID NOT COOK THE STARTER!! Idiot son did the job, I had to clean up
after the mess.
There is a crank until you win situation for these old cars. One can
crank the thing for 30 seconds. Then you really need to let it rest
and cool down. But 30 seconds is a REALLY long time when you
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I only ever tried the block heater once on the 300D 2.5t for that
reason-couldn't see any difference in heat any sooner so I tucked the
cord back onto bumper and have never used again
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OK, thanks for the input guys. I can't justify the $$$ for the Webasto
unit, so I guess I'll just
a thought, I've not gotten to implementing this myself...
-Tim
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OK
and
the van interior were nice and warm; ice even cleared from the windows.
Wilton
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Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] glowing in the cold
Maybe you could try getting a little heater to run
Yesterday morning at 14F I fired my OM602 off with only one glow-barely
turned a revolution. Different from the other OM 616 I had which I would
double glow in the teens and sometimes triple glow when the single digits
arrived. I do have block heater on the 300D (OM 602) but don't use it or
need
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Yesterday morning at 14F I fired my OM602 off with only one glow-barely
turned a revolution. Different
setup which is super handy...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:55:18 -0500
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I've stopped worrying about the temperature since I started driving 60x
engines and running M1 -- they just start regardless of the temp -- at least
down to 0. One glow, and off you go.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for reminding everyone of
my process when I had 61x cars that I HAD to start was to turn key on
till light goes off 3 times, on the 3rd time, wait 30 seconds after the
light goes off, then start cranking till it starts. Dont let up because
you probably will not get a 2nd chance.
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Thanks for
town...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:31:12 -0500
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Curt Raymond wrote:
Yup crank until you win or crash...
Didn't somebody cook a starter doing that last month?
Clay?
Mitch.
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If you cook a starting doing this, the starter needed replacement anyway.
Its a good idea to replace an iffy starter before winter sets in. I just
did this with my 300D. (Laying on the ground when it was 25 degrees out... I
waited a bit too long). Car turns over much better now in ~20 degree
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:46:32 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yup crank until you win or crash... I find that if I'm waiting for the
relay I'll never hear it ...
Leave the door ajar so the interior light is on. When the glow plug relay
drops out, the interior light will get
For giggles, I just tried starting the 240D with -5F temps outside, and -15F
when I woke up this morning. The block heater has been plugged in non-stop
for at least the last week and the car was driven on Christmas day. 60
seconds preglow, cranked a while (did NOT crank until the battery
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