Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-21 Thread Jon Agne
useful. Low RPM hp also equates to more torque. Torque gets things done, HP makes noise and burns gas. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:09:06 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-20 Thread Randy Bennell
I am not so sure that I agree with you all. I can drive my old 300D and it does reasonably well, but there are times when it could use a bit more. For example, pulling onto the highway from a dead stop with a 90 degree turn and uphill for the next half mile or so. I have to be careful not to

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-20 Thread Curt Raymond
:09:06 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Message-ID: 528cfac2.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am not so sure that I agree with you all. I can drive my old 300D

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-20 Thread Randy Bennell
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Message-ID: 528cfac2.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am not so sure that I agree with you all. I can drive my old 300D and it does reasonably well, but there are times when it could

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-20 Thread OK Don
things done, HP makes noise and burns gas. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:09:06 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Message-ID: 528cfac2.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2013-11-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are two ways to have fun driving - with lots of power to play with, and with very little power, requiring you to get the max all the time. I'm pretty amused by the reviews of the new Toyota/Subaru joint-venture RWD

[MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Ron Dwelle
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Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Ron Dwelle wrote: Maybe we should be increasing the fuel temp on our old Benzes I have a chunk of copper pipe of the proper diameter to replace the straight section of my 300SD's upper radiator hose, but I haven't gotten around to fooling with it. I intend to wrap a coil of copper

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Bob DuPuy
I think the rating is related to fuel that has been formulated for winter use, not the actual fuel temperature. To prevent gelling components are added to the fuel that lower the BTU rating of the fuel and thus the HP available to be extracted from it. Though, I can see by the last line of your

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I have a chunk of copper pipe of the proper diameter to replace the straight section of my 300SD's upper radiator hose, but I haven't gotten around to fooling with it. I intend to wrap a coil of copper tubing around it and run the fuel through it. I used to think of going that way, or of using

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I think the rating is related to fuel that has been formulated for winter use, not the actual fuel temperature. I don't know. Perhaps the 10% is due to better atomization at that hotter temperature, resulting in a better burn. Gelling doesn't happen anywhere near the mentioned 25-40 degC

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:29:00 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard that your fuel BTU's weigh in at about 1/3 torque, 1/3 as waste water heat, and 1/3 as waste exhaust heat. That's what I have heard as a good rule of thumb, too. Craig

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Marshall Booth
Ron Dwelle wrote: I was just looking at the specs for some new small marine diesels, from Yanmar. I noticed that they list two different horsepower ratings for different fuel temperature. For example, the engine I was looking at produces 20 HP with the fuel temp at 25 centigrade and 22 HP with

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:29:00 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard that your fuel BTU's weigh in at about 1/3 torque, 1/3 as waste water heat, and 1/3 as waste exhaust heat. That's what I have heard as a good rule of thumb, too. So why is Jim

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Dan Weeks
There you go. It's called cogeneration, and exactly the setup you describe is how you do it. Folks off the grid, mostly in other countries, have been doing this for a long time. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:29:00 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
So why is Jim only using the 1/3 mechanical energy to heat his house? He could put the radiator in the basement and capture another 3rd, maybe combine it with a water cooled exhaust. A variety of reasons that add up to 'don't do this', in my case. 1) I want the big noisy generator away from

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread Mike Canfield
the radiator into a plenum and blowing air over it to heat the house. WAY COOL STUFF Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Craig McCluskey wrote

Re: [MBZ] horsepower

2005-12-09 Thread R A Bennell
to be about a foot long at most and weighs 18#. Cost is $130 Cdn. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:08 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] horsepower Ron Dwelle wrote: Maybe we