I had to replace the KLIMA relay in my 1985 300TD - is that the one located
inconveniently behind the RF side kick panel?
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:44 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
Donald wrote:
I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the
85 that
Donald wrote:
I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird stuff about the
85 that is unique.
Yeah, a few things. I wish none of mine were '85s. Don't like
them.
They have the KLIMA system that ties the tachometer and the AC
compressor turning and other stuff into one egg basket.
The
AM
To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
Yes, the 85s are quicker off the line due to a high stall torque converter.
Turbo engages almost immediately. It has a 2.88:1 rear end ratio for better
fuel economy.
It has a A/C cut out when flooring the throttle
and thus the trade off is mitigated?
Don Snook
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From: Mike Gildea [mailto:mikgi...@icloud.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM
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Yes, the 85s are quicker off the line due
My understanding is that these diesels don't have the
same revs==gas that most cars do. Perhaps they were
after a quieter highway ride, not fuel economy? Would
still need a higher stall speed TC to make up for the
loss of off-the-line acceleration. But that would also
make it less efficient
Redline has been 5000 RPM from OM621 through OM603 (1958 to roughly
2000) Yellow line 4500
Unlike most gassers, the MB diesels can go all day at redline. That
is typically how the 4 cylinders are driven.
When I had a chovey, the redline was 4500. I don't know about
current deetriot iron,
I have always had trouble understanding rear end ratios.
Simple. a 4.11 rear end: the driveshaft turns 4.11 revolutions per
one revolution of both axles.
3.50 rear end: the driveshaft turns 3.5 revolutions per one
revolution of both axles.
3.00 rear end: the driveshaft turns 3.00
mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
I have always had trouble understanding rear end ratios. So, a lower number is
a taller gear and you get better fuel mileage at the cost of acceleration, but
you get higher top end speed
Snook
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Nice close up photos.
The VIN doesn't look right, or is it just me?
Dan
On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
to help with
acceleration and thus the trade off is mitigated?
Don Snook
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Yes, the 85s are quicker
valve adjustments and the timing chain, but it seems like there was
something.
Don Snook
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Nice close up photos.
The VIN doesn't look
That's true of the turbos but not NA.
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Jim Cathey via Mercedes
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
123's
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My prior
123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some weird
stuff about the 85 that is unique. This one is here in Wichita, so I might
look at it.
Don Snook
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Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My
prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some
Yes it is very interesting
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On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My
prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there some
I believe the stall speed on the torque converter is higher on the 85, and
there are some other details as well, but that's the biggie as I recall.
Dan
On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
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This looks interesting. Not much in the way of
, February 17, 2015 5:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xxx
miles?
RB
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Sorry, I forgot to include link:
https
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Yes it is very interesting
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My
prior 123 Diesels were
:
https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html
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From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com]
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Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures
[mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xxx
miles?
RB
On 17/02/2015 5:15 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
Sorry
://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html
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Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My
prior 123
://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html
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From: Donald Snook [mailto:d...@snooklawllc.com]
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Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures.
My prior
[mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting 123
Don't you just love the ads that claim these cars are good for xxx,xxx,xxx
miles?
RB
On 17/02/2015 5:15 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
Sorry, I forgot
, February 17, 2015 4:57 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] interesting 123
This looks interesting. Not much in the way of details or pictures. My
prior 123 Diesels were 82 and 83. I have never had an 85. Isn't there
some weird stuff about the 85 that is unique. This one
From: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
To: d...@snooklawllc.com
Subject: RE: [MBZ] interesting 123
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:15:15 +
Donald.The VIN is for a Honda.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:15:46 +
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting
Sorry, I forgot to include link:
https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4870297534.html
rant Morons who don't know that a 300D is not a 300d irritate me.
Maybe even more than the ones who call it a 300TD.
You would think that if they have owned it and driven it, they'd have
noticed the trunk
123's don't have mechanical tachometers. The electronic tach
amplifier is jacked into the diagnostic plug. On 85's they
integrated it into something else.
-- Jim
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