Re: [MBZ] kick down switch - loss of 1st Gear

2013-08-09 Thread Larry T
Hi Gang - Just to update everyone on the status of my non functioning 1st gear. Turns out it doesn't just fail to engage with kickdown from a stop - it also does not respond to pulling the gear lever all the way to the lowest selection. After several emails between me and Sun Valley -

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
It just moves a bit, not 1/4 I can hear mine click on/off. Just put the ohmmeter on it and see if it is open and closed. --R On 7/20/13 7:15 PM, Larry T wrote: I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so. ___

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
I had similar problems with my 123 years ago. Started in 2nd and shifted up way to soon. Turned out the kickdown cable was out of adjustment. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Don, Man! I hope not! This AT is only 25 months old (with a 24 month

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-20 Thread Larry T
Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should it have? I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so but I've never had to work on one before... Comments?? BTW, having new grommets on the shift rod makes a

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-20 Thread OK Don
Measure electrical continuity, not range of motion. You don't care how far it move, you want to know whether it closes (or opens) or not. On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-20 Thread Dieselhead
Question - the Kickdown switch under the acelerator pedal - how much movement should it have? I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16 of a inch. I expected 1/4 or so but I've never had to work on one before... Comments?? BTW, having new grommets on the shift rod makes a

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Larry T
Rich, No, don't think that's the case (switch not installed) - as it used to work I'll send a note to the rebuilder and see if they can send a image of the electr connection I should be looking for -- had my Indy replace both grommets (at base of shift lever and at end of rod near front

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Larry T
Sun Valley said to look at the aft end ofthe AT to see if the kick down switch was getting power.. I looked but didn't see anything obvious - i need to look again -- maybe I'll look at the parts diagrams in the hope it will show the switch... Thx Larry On 7/18/2013 5:25 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Larry T
Hi Don, Man! I hope not! This AT is only 25 months old (with a 24 month warranty) - Rusty said he had sold about 3000 and only had 3 problems- 2 of them were installer problems and 1 was a easy external fix The AT was around 1400 plus 550 to install for $2k I would hope to get

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
I looked but didn't see anything obvious - i need to look again -- maybe I'll look at the parts diagrams in the hope it will show the switch... It's not a switch, it's a solenoid. The only switch is under your foot, unless your shifter has a side-gate B switch. Still, when the paraphrased

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas
One of those installer problems was my buddy's 79 450SL. His tranny was going bad, he bought one from Rusty and had the local well-known indie in Houston replace it. They managed to bugger it up somehow I don't remember, got another one and it is still fine. --R On 7/19/13 7:48 AM, Larry

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: At the least, I think it needs a k1 spring, and maybe do the b2 piston kit while there, try to flush out the valve body, then change filter and refill. Are you pulling a WILTON? Thinking the worst of a problem? K1 and B2 and flush sounds like somewhat easy work but it might

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-19 Thread Dieselhead
Dieselhead wrote: At the least, I think it needs a k1 spring, and maybe do the b2 piston kit while there, try to flush out the valve body, then change filter and refill. Are you pulling a WILTON? Thinking the worst of a problem? K1 and B2 and flush sounds like somewhat easy work but it

[MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Pressed down is ON, connects the circuit, zero resistance Up is OFF, infinite resistance You can reach down there and grab it and pull up the inner part, which looks to be pressed into the housing with some tabs. You might able to just take it apart and clean it. To get it out, fold down

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Larry T
Hey Rich - My 91 300D no longer seems to kick down when starting from a stop. I checked the switch and it seemed to move freely. So my problem is elsewhere. Is there a switch or valve on the AT? I even tried to pull the gear ever back all the way to engage Low Gear but still no go...

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas
I really don't know much about that aspect, others seem to have some better tranny knowledge. Maybe if you can't see the switch that might indicate it was not installed? --R On 7/18/13 4:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hey Rich - My 91 300D no longer seems to kick down when starting from a stop.

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Dieselhead
Hey Rich - My 91 300D no longer seems to kick down when starting from a stop. I checked the switch and it seemed to move freely. So my problem is elsewhere. Is there a switch or valve on the AT? I even tried to pull the gear ever back all the way to engage Low Gear but still no go...

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Dieselhead
That makes it a NO switch. so If I unhook the wires at the trans there is NO chance of a faulty kickdown signal (even if I took out the switch, there may be scuffed or disintegrated insulation or some other cause to short the wires together.) Pressed down is ON, connects the circuit,

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread OK Don
Just because the switch moves freely does not mean that it is functioning. You need to measure continuity to determine that. However, I do fear that you have deeper tranny issues, but have no idea what :-( On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hey Rich -

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread Dieselhead
Well, I unplugged the kickdown switch (at the switch) and drove home. Shifting is still not right, but seems to be better. At the least, I think it needs a k1 spring, and maybe do the b2 piston kit while there, try to flush out the valve body, then change filter and refill. Or else do filter

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-18 Thread OK Don
Ah - that would be the Diesel version of the Cessna! Only a cool half million dollars. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Now, if your pisant could do 45 mpg@150mph, you'd have somethin'! -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957