Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-20 Thread Wray Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One other thing, aftermarket mounts are cheap (I just saw two for $27 on  
 Ebay), but many will not last two years, hotter climates being tougher on 
 rubber  
 components, on average.  Don't cheap out here!  

I'll second that. I had approx 3 years/50K miles on a set of after 
market mounts in the '87 300D when engine vibration noticeably 
increased. One mount was totally callopsed, the other

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Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-20 Thread Wray Stanley
Wray Stanley wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 One other thing, aftermarket mounts are cheap (I just saw two for $27 
 on  Ebay), but many will not last two years, hotter climates being 
 tougher on rubber  components, on average.  Don't cheap out here!  
 
 I'll second that. I had approx 3 years/50K miles on a set of after 
 market mounts in the '87 300D when engine vibration noticeably 
 increased. One mount was totally callopsed, the other
 
Pardon this premature posting. Meant to hit Spell. Never could spell 
collapsed

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Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-20 Thread Wray Stanley
Wray Stanley wrote:
 Wray Stanley wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One other thing, aftermarket mounts are cheap (I just saw two for $27 
 on  Ebay), but many will not last two years, hotter climates being 
 tougher on rubber  components, on average.  Don't cheap out here!  

 I'll second that. I had approx 3 years/50K miles on a set of after 
 market mounts in the '87 300D when engine vibration noticeably 
 increased. One mount was totally callopsed, the other

 Pardon this premature posting. Meant to hit Spell. Never could spell 
 collapsed
 
One more time

Pardon this premature posting. Meant to hit Spell. Never could spell
collapsed.

I'll second that. I had approx 3 years/50K miles on a set of after
market mounts in the '87 300D when engine vibration noticeably
increased. One mount was totally collapsed, the other had dropped 1/2.

Installed factory mounts at twice the price.

Wray

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Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-19 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 10/19/2007 6:37:35 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 By the way, a very sharp mechanic,  at Tri-stars Petes old place,
 told me that the filter bracket failure  was due to bad motor
 mounts. That was after I took a filter bracket  back within a year of
 purchase, after it failed.  They gave me a  new one, free, but added
 the above caveat.

Funny you mention  motor mounts because before I looked that was my
first guess at the  problem.  Can a bad motor mount be  diagnosed
visually?



Allan,
 
Yes, but it helps to have a new mount to compare it with what you  see.  I 
expect to see about 1/2 of rubber above the metal frame work of  the mount.  
If 
 the mount has sagged, all of the rubber will be down  inside the perimeter 
of the mount.I can't speak to all makes  and models just what I own.  On my 
ML, you can barely see the mounts from  anywhere!  Figure 6-8 years on a set 
of mounts, then they are either hard  or collapsed or both.
 
One other thing, aftermarket mounts are cheap (I just saw two for $27 on  
Ebay), but many will not last two years, hotter climates being tougher on 
rubber  
components, on average.  Don't cheap out here!  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-19 Thread Tom Hargrave
There are 2 failures, one where they compress and one where they tear.

If they are compressed, you can tell visually but you need to know what a
good installed one looks like.

You can check for a torn mount by putting pressure under the oil pan with a
jack. Just make sure that you spread the load with a piece of wood. As you
jack up the engine, the torn mount will become very obvious.

If you replace the motor mounts then don't forget the transmission mount.
It's the third mount for the engine / transmission assembly.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 By the way, a very sharp mechanic, at Tri-stars Petes old place,
 told me that the filter bracket failure was due to bad motor
 mounts. That was after I took a filter bracket back within a year of
 purchase, after it failed.  They gave me a new one, free, but added
 the above caveat.

Funny you mention motor mounts because before I looked that was my
first guess at the problem.  Can a bad motor mount be diagnosed
visually?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] loose air cleaner, W123 300D/ my $0.02/ check your mounts

2007-10-19 Thread Allan Streib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 By the way, a very sharp mechanic, at Tri-stars Petes old place,
 told me that the filter bracket failure was due to bad motor
 mounts. That was after I took a filter bracket back within a year of
 purchase, after it failed.  They gave me a new one, free, but added
 the above caveat.

Funny you mention motor mounts because before I looked that was my
first guess at the problem.  Can a bad motor mount be diagnosed
visually?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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