Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
Lol. On Jun 18, 2013 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/**2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-** to-withstand-an-earthquake/http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
I used to stay at the Hotel Pacific in the Ginza, right across the street from a big train station that served both local trains and express. They had the infamous pushers that crammed the rush hour crowds into the cars. I used to grab a tray of sushi from a local restaurant and sit and watch them smash people into the trains. You can't be worked up about being touched in this place - quarters are so close everyone is smashed up against each other all the time. I did love how prompt the transportation was. I would take a bus from Narita to my hotel, and the bus schedules are literally a minute apart. If it says the bus for the Ginza leaves at 2:45, you better be there, because it does! One thing that pissed me off when I stayed there - the beds were always too short. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage, now Tokyo
Back in '81, we stayed at the Suidobashi Grand Hotel, located just outside the Tokyo city center in a close-in suburb. Our room was roughly proportional to a doll's house. I think the bed dropped down from the wall, and yes, it was too short (I am only 5'9). Andrew On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I used to stay at the Hotel Pacific in the Ginza, right across the street from a big train station that served both local trains and express. They had the infamous pushers that crammed the rush hour crowds into the cars. I used to grab a tray of sushi from a local restaurant and sit and watch them smash people into the trains. You can't be worked up about being touched in this place - quarters are so close everyone is smashed up against each other all the time. I did love how prompt the transportation was. I would take a bus from Narita to my hotel, and the bus schedules are literally a minute apart. If it says the bus for the Ginza leaves at 2:45, you better be there, because it does! One thing that pissed me off when I stayed there - the beds were always too short. Dan On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I road the loop subway in Tokyo. Being 6'4 made for an interesting experience. The cars appear to be about 85-90% the size of America train cars, I guess to match the general stature of the populace, so it was a bit constricting to enter/exit and stand or sit on the train. And all I could see was a sea of black hair. Many of the other riders would be looking sideways at me, sorta stealing glances at the giant gaijin, until I looked their way then they would look away. Being polite I guess. Too funny. I was on one train one night and 2 drunk guys, dressed poorly, acting badly, got on with beers, the other riders were mortified that I was seeing this behavior, and one guy apologized profusely to me for the drunks. Felt like being home in Boston, except for the apology. --R On 6/18/13 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I thought about that too but then remembered that Tokyo has a subway system and way more earthquakes... http://thesource.metro.net/2012/08/10/designing-a-subway-to-withstand-an-earthquake/ Seems to suggest that subways fare very well in case of earthquakes. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:33:03 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mileage Message-ID: 51c08bbf.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 18/06/2013 11:16 AM, Dieselhead wrote: In LA you figure 10mph average at rush hour. They've built an area so completely against bicycles that while you could probably ride much faster than you can drive you're taking your life into your own hands so dramatically that nobody (barring a few risk takers) does it. Light rail is making some inroads, they've managed to put it from places people live to places people want to go which helps. Folks I've talked to like it. -Curt LA has a perfectly good subway system under the pre-1955 parts. It was shuttered in the 1950s due to the power of GM so GM could sell busses to replace it. Is there another major city that does not have a metro/subway? Calif dumb... How about stability issues? One might think that subways are more dangerous in areas prone to earthquakes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
