Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
Speaking of the delivery valve resealng, my '91 300D 2.5 is leaking fuel around #3 and #4 delivery valves. How much involved is to reseal these things? And what parts and tools I would need? Thanks. Tan --- Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure the MB lift pump is a piston type > with no diaphram. I > vote you do the delivery valve reseal thing, change > the oil, take two > asprin and call Marshall in the morning. > > Bob DuPuy > Parrish, FL > > On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause > starting problems but > > not missing problems? This one is missing on #1, > i would think if the > > pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case. If the IP > has a problem however > > internally and is leaking, well I could see that > maybe. > > > > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > > > Kaleb, > > > > > > The only source for serious dilution is the IP. > You may have an issue with > > > the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump > that's bolted to the side of > > > the IP has a cracked diaphragm. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Hargrave > > > 256-656-1924 > > > www.kegkits.com > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM > > > To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list > > > Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo > > > > > > I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it > really seems MUCH thinner > > > than it should be and it seems to have a diesel > smell, but hard to tell. I > > > started it up again stone cold and it fires > right up, and runs MUCH smoother > > > than when warmed up. Idles ok with just a > little bit of a miss. The oil > > > pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when > stone cold, probably because > > > the oil appears to be diluted with diesel. I > will probably change it and > > > see what happens. > > > -- > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 > 420SEL, 87 300SDL, > > > 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 > 300TD, 81 240D, > > > 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 > 250C, 69 250 > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used > > > parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 > 420SEL, 87 300SDL, > > 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 > 300TD, 81 240D, > > 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 > 250C, 69 250 > > http://www.striplin.net > > > > ___ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
Broken ball pin in #1 will do strange things for running, pull the injector and check to see if it's in place. Poopy injector shouldn't cause fuel dilution of the amount you describe, more like a couple precent, as it evaporates to a large extent. Peter
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
I just use #2 John Berryman wrote: On May 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester. The way the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs replaced and it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at it is now. Rather than an all of the sudden type thing. If you're not just using #2 or kero, where are you getting the calibrating fluid from? I will need to re-up pretty soon. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
On May 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester. The way the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs replaced and it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at it is now. Rather than an all of the sudden type thing. If you're not just using #2 or kero, where are you getting the calibrating fluid from? I will need to re-up pretty soon. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
I will just pull them all out and test them on the pop tester. The way the PO told it, he took it somewhere to have the glow plugs replaced and it never ran right since, but got progressivly worse till it is at it is now. Rather than an all of the sudden type thing. John Berryman wrote: On May 21, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but not missing problems? This one is missing on #1, i would think if the pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case. If the IP has a problem however internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe. Tom Hargrave wrote: Its real possible that you have an injector leaking. The miss would definitely be more pronounced when warm. Unburned fuel can find its way to the sump. It is also possible that the PO tried to "clean" the crankcase by adding kerosene to the oil. You must have a spare injector you can swap into #1 to test this theory. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
On May 21, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but not missing problems? This one is missing on #1, i would think if the pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case. If the IP has a problem however internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe. Tom Hargrave wrote: Its real possible that you have an injector leaking. The miss would definitely be more pronounced when warm. Unburned fuel can find its way to the sump. It is also possible that the PO tried to "clean" the crankcase by adding kerosene to the oil. You must have a spare injector you can swap into #1 to test this theory. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
I'm pretty sure the MB lift pump is a piston type with no diaphram. I vote you do the delivery valve reseal thing, change the oil, take two asprin and call Marshall in the morning. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL On 5/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but not missing problems? This one is missing on #1, i would think if the pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case. If the IP has a problem however internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe. Tom Hargrave wrote: > Kaleb, > > The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with > the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of > the IP has a cracked diaphragm. > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > 256-656-1924 > www.kegkits.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM > To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list > Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo > > I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner > than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell. I > started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother > than when warmed up. Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss. The oil > pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because > the oil appears to be diluted with diesel. I will probably change it and > see what happens. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, > 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, > 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.striplin.net > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used > parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
If the fuel supply pump was bad wouldn it cause starting problems but not missing problems? This one is missing on #1, i would think if the pump was bad, that wouldnt be the case. If the IP has a problem however internally and is leaking, well I could see that maybe. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of the IP has a cracked diaphragm. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell. I started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother than when warmed up. Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss. The oil pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because the oil appears to be diluted with diesel. I will probably change it and see what happens. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
Kaleb, The only source for serious dilution is the IP. You may have an issue with the pump itself or more likely, the fuel pump that's bolted to the side of the IP has a cracked diaphragm. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:33 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell. I started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother than when warmed up. Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss. The oil pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because the oil appears to be diluted with diesel. I will probably change it and see what happens. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] more on the 2.5 turbo
I looked more close at the oil yesterday and it really seems MUCH thinner than it should be and it seems to have a diesel smell, but hard to tell. I started it up again stone cold and it fires right up, and runs MUCH smoother than when warmed up. Idles ok with just a little bit of a miss. The oil pressure only goes up to about 2.5 though when stone cold, probably because the oil appears to be diluted with diesel. I will probably change it and see what happens. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
