Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions

2007-09-08 Thread LWB250
After the cluster that was our first home purchase, we
have always engaged the services of a real estate
attorney in every real estate transaction we have
conducted.  This is whether we're buying or selling,
using an agent or working on our own.  The fees are a
pittance compared to the total cost, and just the
presence of an attorney in the transaction seems to
keep things more on the up-and-up, not to mention the
ability of an attorney to resolve what might be
otherwise dealbreaking situations.

As for agents, well, a friend of mine is an agent in
the Reno area that deals in higher end homes.  I just
spoke with her last week and she was telling me about
how a lot of agents are trying to gift listings to
others.  That is, they've had a listing for so long
they can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow
agent.  This is a way to screw someone, as according
to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k right out
the door for the costs she incurs to begin the
marketing.  Because of this and the crappy real estate
market (especially in the higher end properties) she
has been turning down listings of late when she feels
the sellers have unrealistic expectations of what the
property is worth, or that the market won't support
the value of the property.

Dan


--- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:54:38 -0400 Allan Streib
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  the point is the agent gets paid out of the
 proceeds of the sale.  If
  the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid.  So
 the agent is really
  in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he
 wants the deal to
  close which can be in conflict with protecting the
 interests of the
  buyer OR the seller, depending.
  
  That's why you need a real-estate attorney that
 YOU hire if you really
  want someone representing YOUR interests in the
 transaction.
 
 Yes, good point.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions

2007-09-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
In OK, we are one of the few states left that are abstract states, 
meaning the they have to pull the abstract up to day which is done my an 
attorney.  You get title insurance from that attorney which protects you 
if something fishy goes on.  Besides that, if you have a good realtor 
they will make sure you do not get screwed on anything else.  Not all 
are looking out for their buyer (or seller), but the good ones do.

LWB250 wrote:
 After the cluster that was our first home purchase, we
 have always engaged the services of a real estate
 attorney in every real estate transaction we have
 conducted.  This is whether we're buying or selling,
 using an agent or working on our own.  The fees are a
 pittance compared to the total cost, and just the
 presence of an attorney in the transaction seems to
 keep things more on the up-and-up, not to mention the
 ability of an attorney to resolve what might be
 otherwise dealbreaking situations.
 
 As for agents, well, a friend of mine is an agent in
 the Reno area that deals in higher end homes.  I just
 spoke with her last week and she was telling me about
 how a lot of agents are trying to gift listings to
 others.  That is, they've had a listing for so long
 they can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow
 agent.  This is a way to screw someone, as according
 to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k right out
 the door for the costs she incurs to begin the
 marketing.  Because of this and the crappy real estate
 market (especially in the higher end properties) she
 has been turning down listings of late when she feels
 the sellers have unrealistic expectations of what the
 property is worth, or that the market won't support
 the value of the property.
 
 Dan
 
 
 --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:54:38 -0400 Allan Streib
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 the point is the agent gets paid out of the
 proceeds of the sale.  If
 the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid.  So
 the agent is really
 in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he
 wants the deal to
 close which can be in conflict with protecting the
 interests of the
 buyer OR the seller, depending.

 That's why you need a real-estate attorney that
 YOU hire if you really
 want someone representing YOUR interests in the
 transaction.

 Yes, good point.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions

2007-09-08 Thread LWB250
Sort of.  Essentially, the current listing agent has
already thrown in the towel and written off their
expenses, knowing full well and good that the seller
is either being unreasonable or has unrealistic
expectation of their home's value in the current
market.

That means you take the listing, toss your $$ into it,
with the likelihood of success being nearly nil.  If
you're really hungry or just want to have a boatload
of high profile listings (remember, this is a very
competitive business and visibility is important) you
might take it.

This is not something people who expect to work
together again in the future would do to each other. 
It's more like handing a bag full of crap  that looks
really nice on the outside to a competitor and hoping
you're not there when they open it.

She says that she has walked from a number of listings
of late, mainly because the sellers refused to
acknowledge the market and won't move their price into
a realistic range based on what (little) is selling. 
She also said their have been some potential sellers
she has told that they should not sell unless they are
willing to take a hit.


Dan

--- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would seem that the one that would be screwed
 would be the agent who is
 giving the listing away, so one, in effect, is
 screwing one's self. Or am
 I misunderstanding things?
 
 
 Craig




   

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Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions

2007-09-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... she was telling me about how a lot of agents are trying to gift
 listings to others.  That is, they've had a listing for so long they
 can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow agent.  This is a way to
 screw someone, as according to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k
 right out the door for the costs she incurs to begin the
 marketing.

It would seem that the one that would be screwed would be the agent who is
giving the listing away, so one, in effect, is screwing one's self. Or am
I misunderstanding things?


Craig

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