Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
There are actually quite a number of trouble codes that can be set that will not trigger a chack engine light. There are individual pins that allow you to dump codes on a number of different computers, and only those codees that directly relate to emissions are passed on as check engine. For the best info on M104 codes, take a look on www.mercedesshop.com forums for anything authored by Steve Brotherton (?). Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 10/25/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A engine running slightly rich is unlikely to produce a trouble code, a > two O2 sensor system may do but the early one O2 sensor ones are > relatively stupid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
I would need to studying these cultural learnings closely if I went there myself. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 7:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin There are a lot of a**holes everywhere, some of them manage to get enough money to travel places where they expect everything to work like the restaurant down the street. In this case the guy probably arrived on a cruise ship, they seem to attract those kind of "world travelers." I went to Santorini a few years back, it was a gorgeous place with nice people and a lot of good restaurants (at least in Ia where we stayed). There were some lovely lasses on the beach who were getting the full sun treatment, nudge nudge wink wink say no more... I made a point of studying these cultural learnings closely. --R Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I never said all Yanks are rude but you do get the odd one now and then. > I guess culturally speaking you lot are used to getting A1 service and > you are willing to pay for it through tips, however just because you pay > someone does not entitle you to be rude towards them. > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Not all "yanks" are rude like that. >> >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Hmmnh Rich, that sounds familiar, you're not from Ohio by any chance? :-) Rich Thomas wrote: > There are a lot of a**holes everywhere, some of them manage to get > enough money to travel places where they expect everything to work like > the restaurant down the street. In this case the guy probably arrived > on a cruise ship, they seem to attract those kind of "world travelers." > > I went to Santorini a few years back, it was a gorgeous place with nice > people and a lot of good restaurants (at least in Ia where we stayed). > There were some lovely lasses on the beach who were getting the full sun > treatment, nudge nudge wink wink say no more... I made a point of > studying these cultural learnings closely. > > --R > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
People are strange. I collect (well, really accumulate) fountain pens, and some yahoo on one of the discussion groups won a rather nice solid gold Sheaffer Snorkel on eBay, and then SENT THE PEN BACK because it was shipped a week later than he expected (and overseas, too!). He had the temerity to complain about getting negative feedback from the seller after leaving a "flamer" negative feedback himself! Not quite clear on the concept, eh? I don't suppose he thought that getting something shipped overseas insured is a routine matter for a private seller. Enough to make you swear of contact with other humans sometimes! Peter On Oct 27, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > There are a lot of a**holes everywhere, some of them manage to get > enough money to travel places where they expect everything to work like > the restaurant down the street. In this case the guy probably arrived > on a cruise ship, they seem to attract those kind of "world travelers." > > I went to Santorini a few years back, it was a gorgeous place with nice > people and a lot of good restaurants (at least in Ia where we stayed). > There were some lovely lasses on the beach who were getting the full > sun > treatment, nudge nudge wink wink say no more... I made a point of > studying these cultural learnings closely. > > --R > > Hendrik & Fay wrote: >> I never said all Yanks are rude but you do get the odd one now and >> then. >> I guess culturally speaking you lot are used to getting A1 service and >> you are willing to pay for it through tips, however just because you >> pay >> someone does not entitle you to be rude towards them. >> >> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> >>> Not all "yanks" are rude like that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
There are a lot of a**holes everywhere, some of them manage to get enough money to travel places where they expect everything to work like the restaurant down the street. In this case the guy probably arrived on a cruise ship, they seem to attract those kind of "world travelers." I went to Santorini a few years back, it was a gorgeous place with nice people and a lot of good restaurants (at least in Ia where we stayed). There were some lovely lasses on the beach who were getting the full sun treatment, nudge nudge wink wink say no more... I made a point of studying these cultural learnings closely. --R Hendrik & Fay wrote: > I never said all Yanks are rude but you do get the odd one now and then. > I guess culturally speaking you lot are used to getting A1 service and > you are willing to pay for it through tips, however just because you pay > someone does not entitle you to be rude towards them. > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Not all "yanks" are rude like that. >> >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
I never said all Yanks are rude but you do get the odd one now and then. I guess culturally speaking you lot are used to getting A1 service and you are willing to pay for it through tips, however just because you pay someone does not entitle you to be rude towards them. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Not all "yanks" are rude like that. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
you wrote<> Yeah! I remember Clay (I think) - could be really obnoxious! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > yea, he was from PA, but I cant remember his name. What it Clay > something, Clay last name B something I think? > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> Redghost wrote: >>> youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down >>> south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor >>> sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the >>> purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in >>> question was sold to an unsuspecting fool >> >> That's it. I can't remember the name. I now agree that Gabe was the >> loudmouth from CA who got banned. I think the one who bought Darrell's >> car >> was from PA, but what was his name? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: > 10/27/2007 11:02 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Not a clay, was one of the more generic east coast names, a john, paul, bill sort of name. clay On 27 Oct 2007, at 07:26, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > yea, he was from PA, but I cant remember his name. What it Clay > something, Clay last name B something I think? > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> Redghost wrote: >>> youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down >>> south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor >>> sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from >>> the >>> purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in >>> question was sold to an unsuspecting fool >> >> That's it. I can't remember the name. I now agree that Gabe was the >> loudmouth from CA who got banned. I think the one who bought >> Darrell's car >> was from PA, but what was his name? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 > Euro, > 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, thats the guy Curt Raymond wrote: > That was back in the days of the old list wasn't it? Or maybe just during the > changeover? > I seem to remember him emailing everybody on the list independantly to tell > us how he'd been screwed. > > IIRC his big complaint was something like the glow plug relay had failed or > something else that nobody could have predicted. > Seems like he had another 240D that was total crap and he had to start it by > rolling down hill or something. Seems also like he commuted like 5 miles or > something and would have been better served with a bicycle. > > -Curt -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
That was back in the days of the old list wasn't it? Or maybe just during the changeover? I seem to remember him emailing everybody on the list independantly to tell us how he'd been screwed. IIRC his big complaint was something like the glow plug relay had failed or something else that nobody could have predicted. Seems like he had another 240D that was total crap and he had to start it by rolling down hill or something. Seems also like he commuted like 5 miles or something and would have been better served with a bicycle. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:24:23 -0400 From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Redghost wrote: > > youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down > south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor > sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the > purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in > question was sold to an unsuspecting fool That's it. I can't remember the name. I now agree that Gabe was the loudmouth from CA who got banned. I think the one who bought Darrell's car was from PA, but what was his name? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, he was from PA, but I cant remember his name. What it Clay something, Clay last name B something I think? Mitch Haley wrote: > Redghost wrote: >> youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down >> south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor >> sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the >> purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in >> question was sold to an unsuspecting fool > > That's it. I can't remember the name. I now agree that Gabe was the > loudmouth from CA who got banned. I think the one who bought Darrell's car > was from PA, but what was his name? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
except there was really nothing that wrong with the car, it was just the usual normal stuff that has to be done. Redghost wrote: > youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down > south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor > sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the > purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in > question was sold to an unsuspecting fool > > clay > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & the other list
yep Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Funny how it is still called the R & E list, I thought Richard got > shafted that bad he hasn't been able to bend over in years. > Isn't it the Ritter and vanCleef show these days? > > someone wrote: Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Not all "yanks" are rude like that. Hendrik & Fay wrote: > There is no problem, only a lister not being happy with the service he > got from this list. I don't see that as a problem but just part of life. > This reminds me of the Ohio man, who is the Ohio man you ask? The Ohio > man is rude and obnoxious American whom we met in Santorini (a little > island in Greece). The story is that we went to breakfast one morning in > a little cafe and a couple of tables across from us where some other > travelers, seeing that they spoke English we introduced ourselves. From > memory there where a couple of girls and a bloke from Ohio. Can't > remember their names and hence we call him the Ohio man. > Anyway the reason we remember the Ohio man is because when the waiter > brought them the menu the Ohio man kicked up a big fuss because > something on the menu was not available. "Why haven't you got this? If > it is on the menu you should have it." and so on, making the waiter feel > not so good as he tried to explain that it was the end of the holiday > season and they had run out of a lot of things and would not be > restocking until the start of the next season. > Anyway after Ohio man left we consoled the waiter that Yanks are > somewhat different and he agreed that they could be quite rude if all > their needs where not met. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Redghost wrote: > > youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down > south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor > sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the > purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in > question was sold to an unsuspecting fool That's it. I can't remember the name. I now agree that Gabe was the loudmouth from CA who got banned. I think the one who bought Darrell's car was from PA, but what was his name? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
What if this is really GABE coming back on list under an alias? On 26 Oct 2007, at 10:10, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > No, has not unsubscribed, but quite strange there has been nothing > from him. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:55 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > >>> Furthermore now that he's gotten a stack of replies where the >>> "thank you" >>> posts? >>> >> >> Probably took his marbles, quit the list and went home... >> >> Rick Knoble >> '85 300 CD >> '87 190 DT >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & the other list
Funny how it is still called the R & E list, I thought Richard got shafted that bad he hasn't been able to bend over in years. Isn't it the Ritter and vanCleef show these days? someone wrote: >>> >>> Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". >>> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
youngling from up north got a, to him, raw deal from a lister down south. Many sour words from the purchaser, with a few caveat emptor sort of phrasings from the seller. Continued whining ensued from the purchaser with a final resolution of sorts when the vehicle in question was sold to an unsuspecting fool clay On 25 Oct 2007, at 18:29, OK Don wrote: > No - it was someone else, though young, IIRC, who bought a 240D from a > fellow lister, found it needed front end work (again, IIRC), and > complained for weeks that he had gotten a raw deal, how could we > tolerate this,etc. > > On 10/25/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, >> Snook would >> have already taken him to court for libel, etc. >> > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Gabe made negative comment aimed at Regina. She took issue and it sort of exploded from there. Many harsh words exchanged. Some came to her gallant rescue, though I could not see a need to do more than duck and cover from her draconian response to Gabe. clay On 25 Oct 2007, at 18:24, Wonko the Sane wrote: > I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, > Snook would > have already taken him to court for libel, etc. > > On 10/25/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Donald Snook wrote: >>> I don't think anyone bought a car from me except OK Don. >> >> I think the parties to the transaction were Gabe and a different DS. >> Aren't you and Darrell both attorneys? I was just looking through >> old emails, and there are at least four listers with the initials DS. >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
There was that one gank from out in CA who made excessive mention of horrid things directed at Kaleb's pretty bride. I think she tore the dork a new one and the boy was banned from banned or something. clay Gabriel somesuch On 25 Oct 2007, at 07:59, Mitch Haley wrote: > Rick Knoble wrote: >> >>> Smart ass's >>> were suppose to be kicked off. >>> >>> Robb >> >> Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". > > There was one woman who seemed intentionally dense that Richarde > kicked > off this list's predecessor. Has Kleb ever kicked anybody off? > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In the US we refer to such an individual as "unnecessarily polite." On 10/26/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway the reason we remember the Ohio man is because when the waiter > brought them the menu the Ohio man kicked up a big fuss because > something on the menu was not available. "Why haven't you got this? If > it is on the menu you should have it." and so on, making the waiter feel > not so good as he tried to explain that it was the end of the holiday > season and they had run out of a lot of things and would not be > restocking until the start of the next season. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In a little backwater called Adelaide, although I live in the hills which is sorta a different world until the flatlanders move up here and stuff things up. andrew strasfogel wrote: > I just returned from a couple weeks' holiday in Australia. Where do you > live? > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is no problem, only a lister not being happy with the service he got from this list. I don't see that as a problem but just part of life. This reminds me of the Ohio man, who is the Ohio man you ask? The Ohio man is rude and obnoxious American whom we met in Santorini (a little island in Greece). The story is that we went to breakfast one morning in a little cafe and a couple of tables across from us where some other travelers, seeing that they spoke English we introduced ourselves. From memory there where a couple of girls and a bloke from Ohio. Can't remember their names and hence we call him the Ohio man. Anyway the reason we remember the Ohio man is because when the waiter brought them the menu the Ohio man kicked up a big fuss because something on the menu was not available. "Why haven't you got this? If it is on the menu you should have it." and so on, making the waiter feel not so good as he tried to explain that it was the end of the holiday season and they had run out of a lot of things and would not be restocking until the start of the next season. Anyway after Ohio man left we consoled the waiter that Yanks are somewhat different and he agreed that they could be quite rude if all their needs where not met. Tom Hargrave wrote: > which solves the problem. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, thats the car and thats who sold it, but I dont think thats the guy who was whining. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin >> Oh yea, it just needed routine stuff and he complained for months about >> how >> he got ripped off. Give me a minute and Im sure I will remember who that >> was. > > It was a 240d four speed, white with a black hood and he bought it from > Darrel Sigmon. The guy lived in Pennsylvania and he sold it real cheap. I > think he still posts on this list from time to time. > Mike Canfield maybe? > Maybe not > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, has not unsubscribed, but quite strange there has been nothing from him. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin >> Furthermore now that he's gotten a stack of replies where the "thank you" >> posts? >> > > Probably took his marbles, quit the list and went home... > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I just returned from a couple weeks' holiday in Australia. Where do you live? On 10/26/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes it is, the one, the only, big fat loudmouth from downunder, with an > opinion on everything and none are correct. > > H > > Zoltan Finks wrote: > > So is this Hendrik Reissen talking? I may have misspelled the name, > > but that Hendrik I recognize. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Oh yea, it just needed routine stuff and he complained for months about how > he got ripped off. Give me a minute and Im sure I will remember who that > was. It was a 240d four speed, white with a black hood and he bought it from Darrel Sigmon. The guy lived in Pennsylvania and he sold it real cheap. I think he still posts on this list from time to time. Mike Canfield maybe? Maybe not Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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which solves the problem. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > Furthermore now that he's gotten a stack of replies where the "thank you" posts? > Probably took his marbles, quit the list and went home... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re; Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & CIS systems (or should that be watermelon wine?)
> Just to be picky, the original CIS (K jetronic) is supposed to be > screwed around with every service in conjunction with a CO meter, the > CIS/E (KE jetronic) is not supposed to be screwed around with unless, > like you said, there is a good reason and you know what you are doing. If this list would've been around when I had my '78 BMW 530i some years ago, maybe I could've got better than 14 mpg. It was my first experience with Bosch fuel injection (L-Jetronic) and hopefully my last. God, that car was beautiful, but an utter POS. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Furthermore now that he's gotten a stack of replies where the "thank you" > posts? > Probably took his marbles, quit the list and went home... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Herr Doktor Booth surfaces from time to time. He gets a little perturbed sometimes, I believe, about our O.T. stuff. He still contributes regularly to the MBCA diesel forums I believe. He's wicked smart. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:25 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin Indeed. I miss Marshall here, and hope everything is OK with him. Anyone talked to him lately? Tom Hargrave wrote: > >We used to have a great resource on the list (remember Marshall?) but he has >disappeared. I often wonder if the list became too demanding. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh yea, it just needed routine stuff and he complained for months about how he got ripped off. Give me a minute and Im sure I will remember who that was. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > You don't recall much for a man who is only 35. > > On 10/25/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> No - it was someone else, though young, IIRC, who bought a 240D from a >> fellow lister, found it needed front end work (again, IIRC), and >> complained for weeks that he had gotten a raw deal, how could we >> tolerate this,etc. >> >> > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Yes it is, the one, the only, big fat loudmouth from downunder, with an > opinion on everything and none are correct. Now, now, don't be too hard on yourself. That's _our_ job! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes it is, the one, the only, big fat loudmouth from downunder, with an opinion on everything and none are correct. H Zoltan Finks wrote: > So is this Hendrik Reissen talking? I may have misspelled the name, > but that Hendrik I recognize. > > Brian > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So is this Hendrik Reissen talking? I may have misspelled the name, but that Hendrik I recognize. Brian On 10/25/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I > did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or > missed it. Then to write to the list and basically tell the members that > they are useless because they couldn't answer your supposedly 'simple' > question of why a complex fuel injection system would be putting out > high emissions, is not within the spirit of this list as YOU see it. > And now you drag Kaleb into it, is he supposed to be a master MB > technician with years of experience of working on motronic fuel systems > and a few grands worth of tech manuals? Is he supposed to be sitting by > the computer 24/7 just waiting for you to ask questions? No, Kaleb is > the person that is stopping me from telling you exactly what I think of > your attitude. > I might suggest that you take a step back and review what has transpired > and then figure out who is and who is not acting within the spirit of > the list. Oooh that's right, Americans don't take a step back, silly me, > I do apologize for suggesting such a stupid thing. > Anyway, perhaps by now you have the idea that there is no magic screw in > your system that will get you through emissions. > > However as a side note: the very early M104 engines in 3 liter > displacement did use the KE jetronic system but the 2.8 and 3.2 used > motronic > > Robb Taglieri wrote: > > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is about > > sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I paid > > for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting being > > "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping for. > > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be helpful > > may even help you in your own business. > > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop owners > > with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart ass's > > were suppose to be kicked off. > > > > Robb > > ___ > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Indeed. I miss Marshall here, and hope everything is OK with him. Anyone talked to him lately? Tom Hargrave wrote: > >We used to have a great resource on the list (remember Marshall?) but he has >disappeared. I often wonder if the list became too demanding. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re; Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & CIS systems (or should that be watermelon wine?)
The second version is the one I was thinking of but I've owned a couple of both. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 10/25/07 11:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re; Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & CIS systems (or should that be watermelon wine?) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Just to be picky, the original CIS (K jetronic) is supposed to be screwed around with every service in conjunction with a CO meter, the CIS/E (KE jetronic) is not supposed to be screwed around with unless, like you said, there is a good reason and you know what you are doing. And you can call me Hendrik, Fay is the smarter one of the team but knows sweet FA about cars apart from where to put the key and fuel but she does tell me when she thinks the car is sick, for which I am ahead of a lot of other blokes I suppose. Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Hendrik or Fay (whichever one posted the response) is correct. If your CIS > system will not pass emissions then there is no adjustment that you can use > to "fix it". You have to ID and replace the worn or failing part. The screw > that was mentioned is only intended to be used for initial setup after > replacing or repairing some parts of the system. > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> What is the moose day thing all about? I have seen other > references and have never understood. It all starts with Python, Monty. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re; Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin & CIS systems (or should that be watermelon wine?)
Just to be picky, the original CIS (K jetronic) is supposed to be screwed around with every service in conjunction with a CO meter, the CIS/E (KE jetronic) is not supposed to be screwed around with unless, like you said, there is a good reason and you know what you are doing. And you can call me Hendrik, Fay is the smarter one of the team but knows sweet FA about cars apart from where to put the key and fuel but she does tell me when she thinks the car is sick, for which I am ahead of a lot of other blokes I suppose. Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Hendrik or Fay (whichever one posted the response) is correct. If your CIS > system will not pass emissions then there is no adjustment that you can use > to "fix it". You have to ID and replace the worn or failing part. The screw > that was mentioned is only intended to be used for initial setup after > replacing or repairing some parts of the system. > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And you will pay for that sin in Hell for all eternity :-) Guess it means you will be thrown out of the Diesel club :-) :-) Wonko the Sane wrote: > Hendrik: > > I drove Tommy's S420 around the > block at the IowaQ but that is the extent of my exposure to one -- > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm - DHS is Dept. of Human Services, or more lately, Dept. of Homeland Defense. Would have never associated it with Donald H. Snook. On 10/25/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mitch wrote: > > "I think the parties to the transaction were Gabe and a different DS. > Aren't you and Darrell both attorneys? I was just looking through old > emails, and there are at least four listers with the initials DS." > > > > I didn't realize we had so many DS members around here. My initials are > always DHS which sounds like a high school. I didn't know we had as many > attorneys on here either. > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch wrote: "I think the parties to the transaction were Gabe and a different DS. Aren't you and Darrell both attorneys? I was just looking through old emails, and there are at least four listers with the initials DS." I didn't realize we had so many DS members around here. My initials are always DHS which sounds like a high school. I didn't know we had as many attorneys on here either. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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1. You are a lawyer. 2. Moose day. 3. Any questions? 4. Do you have a sister, and if so, was she ever bitten by a moose, and if so, did she have legal representation?\ D. On 10/25/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lt Don wrote: > > "It will probably be MOOSE DAY" > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lt. Don wrote: "I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, Snook would have already taken him to court for libel, etc." That made me laugh, Don. You are probably right. Was Gabe the guy (pretty young 25 or so) who was a real jerk? I seem to remember him attacking some of the other listers and talking about vast years of experience driving which I think he described as 9 years. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lt Don wrote: "It will probably be MOOSE DAY" I have been on the list for a few years now and have been through a few different cars during that time. I have received valuable advice and appreciate all the help. I am without benz right now (but am always looking) and I have been out of town a lot lately. Here's my question: What is the moose day thing all about. I have seen other references and have never understood. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Furthermore now that he's gotten a stack of replies where the "thank you" posts? -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:45:19 -0500 From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm behind Hendrik & Fay on this one. This list is a very open forum. Sometimes we stay with Mercedes & sometimes we stray but regardless, we as a group solve a multitude of tough technical problems every week. Hendrik or Fay (whichever one posted the response) is correct. If your CIS system will not pass emissions then there is no adjustment that you can use to "fix it". You have to ID and replace the worn or failing part. The screw that was mentioned is only intended to be used for initial setup after replacing or repairing some parts of the system. Add me to your smart-ass list if you'd like but I believe you owe everyone who contributes content to this list an apology! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You don't recall much for a man who is only 35. On 10/25/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No - it was someone else, though young, IIRC, who bought a 240D from a > fellow lister, found it needed front end work (again, IIRC), and > complained for weeks that he had gotten a raw deal, how could we > tolerate this,etc. > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No - it was someone else, though young, IIRC, who bought a 240D from a fellow lister, found it needed front end work (again, IIRC), and complained for weeks that he had gotten a raw deal, how could we tolerate this,etc. On 10/25/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, Snook would > have already taken him to court for libel, etc. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wonko the Sane wrote: > > I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, Snook would > have already taken him to court for libel, etc. Methinks it was Sigmon. Isn't he a lawyer too? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't think Gabe purchased from Snook. Had that been the case, Snook would have already taken him to court for libel, etc. On 10/25/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Donald Snook wrote: > > I don't think anyone bought a car from me except OK Don. > > I think the parties to the transaction were Gabe and a different DS. > Aren't you and Darrell both attorneys? I was just looking through > old emails, and there are at least four listers with the initials DS. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: > I don't think anyone bought a car from me except OK Don. I think the parties to the transaction were Gabe and a different DS. Aren't you and Darrell both attorneys? I was just looking through old emails, and there are at least four listers with the initials DS. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Let me try that again ... hit a "bad" key and the message went prematurely. It will probably be MOOSE DAY somewhere when the game ends and my Hokies have kicked BC's butt. Just talked to my son by cell phone -- he's in Blacksburg and at the game. He said: "I'm here, I'm extremely wet, and I'm psyched." (M.S., Virginia Tech, 2005) On 10/25/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Add me to your smart-ass list if you'd like but I believe you owe everyone > who contributes content to this list an apology! > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or someone like I know but am so buried with work that I don't have time to answer. We used to have a great resource on the list (remember Marshall?) but he has disappeared. I often wonder if the list became too demanding. And your last point is absolutely correct, if a list member believes we owe him an answer than my best advice is for him to drive down to a local shop & pay them hourly for the answer he wants. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin Hendrik: He doesn't understand that +90% of those here own diesels. The reverse is probably true on the R/E list. Were the question about a W123 240D then I could have jumped in. But for me to offer a suggestion on a Benz gasser -- I drove Tommy's S420 around the block at the IowaQ but that is the extent of my exposure to one -- would be the height of egotistical folly. Were each of us diesel-only guys supposed to post, "Beats me?" or "I don't know?" Here is my suggestion, Robb. Post your question, giving as much information as possible. If you get no response, it means one of two (maybe three) things: 1. There was a response and you missed it -- highly probable; 2. No one knows; 3. No one wants to talk to you (highly unlikely). If you think that folks might have not seen your post, then ask it again ... in a nice way. You are asking for free advice and you are in no position to demand that we comply with your request. I think you will find that most are willing to offer guidance on a subject on which they are experienced. But to demand an answer ... well, just doesn't sit well. Don On 10/25/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I > did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or > missed it. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It will probably be MOOSE DAY On 10/25/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm behind Hendrik & Fay on this one. This list is a very open forum. > Sometimes we stay with Mercedes & sometimes we stray but regardless, we as > a > group solve a multitude of tough technical problems every week. > > Hendrik or Fay (whichever one posted the response) is correct. If your CIS > system will not pass emissions then there is no adjustment that you can > use > to "fix it". You have to ID and replace the worn or failing part. The > screw > that was mentioned is only intended to be used for initial setup after > replacing or repairing some parts of the system. > > Add me to your smart-ass list if you'd like but I believe you owe everyone > who contributes content to this list an apology! > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I > did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or > missed it. Then to write to the list and basically tell the members that > they are useless because they couldn't answer your supposedly 'simple' > question of why a complex fuel injection system would be putting out > high emissions, is not within the spirit of this list as YOU see it. > And now you drag Kaleb into it, is he supposed to be a master MB > technician with years of experience of working on motronic fuel systems > and a few grands worth of tech manuals? Is he supposed to be sitting by > the computer 24/7 just waiting for you to ask questions? No, Kaleb is > the person that is stopping me from telling you exactly what I think of > your attitude. > I might suggest that you take a step back and review what has transpired > and then figure out who is and who is not acting within the spirit of > the list. Oooh that's right, Americans don't take a step back, silly me, > I do apologize for suggesting such a stupid thing. > Anyway, perhaps by now you have the idea that there is no magic screw in > your system that will get you through emissions. > > However as a side note: the very early M104 engines in 3 liter > displacement did use the KE jetronic system but the 2.8 and 3.2 used > motronic > > Robb Taglieri wrote: > > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is > about > > sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I > paid > > for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting > being > > "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping > for. > > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be > helpful > > may even help you in your own business. > > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop > owners > > with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart > ass's > > were suppose to be kicked off. > > > > Robb > > ___ > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Hendrik: He doesn't understand that +90% of those here own diesels. The reverse is probably true on the R/E list. Were the question about a W123 240D then I could have jumped in. But for me to offer a suggestion on a Benz gasser -- I drove Tommy's S420 around the block at the IowaQ but that is the extent of my exposure to one -- would be the height of egotistical folly. Were each of us diesel-only guys supposed to post, "Beats me?" or "I don't know?" Here is my suggestion, Robb. Post your question, giving as much information as possible. If you get no response, it means one of two (maybe three) things: 1. There was a response and you missed it -- highly probable; 2. No one knows; 3. No one wants to talk to you (highly unlikely). If you think that folks might have not seen your post, then ask it again ... in a nice way. You are asking for free advice and you are in no position to demand that we comply with your request. I think you will find that most are willing to offer guidance on a subject on which they are experienced. But to demand an answer ... well, just doesn't sit well. Don On 10/25/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I > did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or > missed it. > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
I'm behind Hendrik & Fay on this one. This list is a very open forum. Sometimes we stay with Mercedes & sometimes we stray but regardless, we as a group solve a multitude of tough technical problems every week. Hendrik or Fay (whichever one posted the response) is correct. If your CIS system will not pass emissions then there is no adjustment that you can use to "fix it". You have to ID and replace the worn or failing part. The screw that was mentioned is only intended to be used for initial setup after replacing or repairing some parts of the system. Add me to your smart-ass list if you'd like but I believe you owe everyone who contributes content to this list an apology! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or missed it. Then to write to the list and basically tell the members that they are useless because they couldn't answer your supposedly 'simple' question of why a complex fuel injection system would be putting out high emissions, is not within the spirit of this list as YOU see it. And now you drag Kaleb into it, is he supposed to be a master MB technician with years of experience of working on motronic fuel systems and a few grands worth of tech manuals? Is he supposed to be sitting by the computer 24/7 just waiting for you to ask questions? No, Kaleb is the person that is stopping me from telling you exactly what I think of your attitude. I might suggest that you take a step back and review what has transpired and then figure out who is and who is not acting within the spirit of the list. Oooh that's right, Americans don't take a step back, silly me, I do apologize for suggesting such a stupid thing. Anyway, perhaps by now you have the idea that there is no magic screw in your system that will get you through emissions. However as a side note: the very early M104 engines in 3 liter displacement did use the KE jetronic system but the 2.8 and 3.2 used motronic Robb Taglieri wrote: > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is about > sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I paid > for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting being > "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping for. > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be helpful > may even help you in your own business. > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop owners > with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart ass's > were suppose to be kicked off. > > Robb > ___ > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Might I suggest that that you practice what you preach, for one thing I did reply to your original question. You either choose to ignore it or missed it. Then to write to the list and basically tell the members that they are useless because they couldn't answer your supposedly 'simple' question of why a complex fuel injection system would be putting out high emissions, is not within the spirit of this list as YOU see it. And now you drag Kaleb into it, is he supposed to be a master MB technician with years of experience of working on motronic fuel systems and a few grands worth of tech manuals? Is he supposed to be sitting by the computer 24/7 just waiting for you to ask questions? No, Kaleb is the person that is stopping me from telling you exactly what I think of your attitude. I might suggest that you take a step back and review what has transpired and then figure out who is and who is not acting within the spirit of the list. Oooh that's right, Americans don't take a step back, silly me, I do apologize for suggesting such a stupid thing. Anyway, perhaps by now you have the idea that there is no magic screw in your system that will get you through emissions. However as a side note: the very early M104 engines in 3 liter displacement did use the KE jetronic system but the 2.8 and 3.2 used motronic Robb Taglieri wrote: > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is about > sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I paid > for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting being > "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping for. > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be helpful > may even help you in your own business. > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop owners > with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart ass's > were suppose to be kicked off. > > Robb > ___ > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
A engine running slightly rich is unlikely to produce a trouble code, a two O2 sensor system may do but the early one O2 sensor ones are relatively stupid. Further I think that if there is a code stored in the system then the check engine light will be on, telling you it is time to spend money. They should replace that check engine light with a check bank balance light, perhaps something like this: *$ *James Zavesky wrote: > Robb Taglieri > > Your original email was answered on 9/17/07 by Alex Chamberlain who has a > diesel. I believe most of the guys here are diesel owners. Gas cars are a > different beast, you'll need to get codes pulled or build a LED unit to pull > codes, your car is OBD I. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley wrote: "Was one of those the kid who bought a car from Sigmon or Snook and wanted to return it? Probably the one who left on his own." I don't think anyone bought a car from me except OK Don. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As in, "I sent one too many rude posts to the list so Kaleb moderated me [with extreme prejudice]". On 10/25/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > something like that I suppose :) > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes > Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > Moderate must be short for "ban from the list"? > > > > Tom > > www.kegkits.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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something like that I suppose :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" ; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > Moderate must be short for "ban from the list"? > > Tom > www.kegkits.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Moderate must be short for "ban from the list"? Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 10/25/07 12:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gabe, thats him, dont remember who the guy was I had to moderate. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > There was a kid from So. Cal. too. Gabe maybe? > > IIRC he got quite threatening once when I made fun of LA. > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:02:06 -0700 > From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I seem to remember one Carlos (I think his name was) guy several years > ago > Kaleb 86-edsound familiar? He was very out-of-spec. > > Bob R. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Robb Taglieri Your original email was answered on 9/17/07 by Alex Chamberlain who has a diesel. I believe most of the guys here are diesel owners. Gas cars are a different beast, you'll need to get codes pulled or build a LED unit to pull codes, your car is OBD I. >On 9/17/07, Robb Taglieri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a 1993 300E 2.8 with about 122,000 miles on it. It recently > went for NJ emissions testing and failed. My HC tested at 150 instead > of 100. I am told that the cause of this is not the normal tune up > but rather that something is defective. the car had a tune up in the > last 12,000 miles and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions. > >High HC means unburned fuel---the engine is running too rich. A lot of things can cause this, but the first to check for >is a vacuum leak---could be as simple as a disconnected line somewhere. (Low vacuum makes the injection computer think >>>you're stomping on the accelerator all the time, so it dumps more gas in than necessary.) > >Alex Chamberlain >'87 300D Turbo >From my notes I have; High HC,CO & NOX = replace converter & O2 Sensor, verify tuneup and correct any fault codes. You did pull the codes? High HC & NOX & Low CO = Replace converter, tune-up & check lean Fuel Ratio, leaking exhaust valves. High HC & CO & Low NOX = Rich Air fuel Ratio, air injection High HC & Low CO & NOX = Run in converter, tuneup, oil change Check the emissions form from the test facility to which values are high and low. There is also and EGR tube issue with the car you have. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robb Taglieri > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:00 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. > It is about sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year > old cars... whether I paid for the listing or not. If I paid > for the listing up to this posting being "Now" very helpful > but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was > hoping for. > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying > to be helpful may even help you in your own business. > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and > small shop owners with other guys experiences from around the > country chiming in. Smart ass's were suppose to be kicked off. > > Robb > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Gabe, thats him, dont remember who the guy was I had to moderate. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > > There was a kid from So. Cal. too. Gabe maybe? > > IIRC he got quite threatening once when I made fun of LA. > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:02:06 -0700 > From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I seem to remember one Carlos (I think his name was) guy several years > ago > Kaleb 86-edsound familiar? He was very out-of-spec. > > Bob R. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
There was a kid from So. Cal. too. Gabe maybe? IIRC he got quite threatening once when I made fun of LA. -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:02:06 -0700 From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I seem to remember one Carlos (I think his name was) guy several years ago Kaleb 86-edsound familiar? He was very out-of-spec. Bob R. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Some years back, not long after I joined the previous list, there was a guy who would wax eloquently for many pages about random stuff, and take extreme issue with trivial matters. I think large amounts of whiskey and being from California might have played a role in his musings, as they tended to show up late at night. Anyway, I think he got kicked off, or maybe went to rehab or AA, after suggesting to someone (Marshall?) "that you, sir, can stick your thumbs in your ass and walk on your elbows" after about 3 pages of rant about some disagreement on something trivial. I found his stuff somewhat amusing, like the stuff you see the bums over by the freeway write on their signs, but I guess whoever was the list mom got fed up with it. That image was pretty funny though. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Man I just dont remember, would like to remember though, it was a funny > story. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Man I just dont remember, would like to remember though, it was a funny story. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote: >> >> Yes, I did have to kick somebody off once, and only once. I cant >> remember >> all the exact details but the guy ended up sending a post cussing us out >> or >> something. Then is seems I had to put somebody on moderation status and >> they didnt like it so left on their own. > > Was one of those the kid who bought a car from Sigmon or Snook and wanted > to return it? Probably the one who left on his own. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote: > > Yes, I did have to kick somebody off once, and only once. I cant remember > all the exact details but the guy ended up sending a post cussing us out or > something. Then is seems I had to put somebody on moderation status and > they didnt like it so left on their own. Was one of those the kid who bought a car from Sigmon or Snook and wanted to return it? Probably the one who left on his own. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, thats probably him, not sure either if that was his name but it could be. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin >I seem to remember one Carlos (I think his name was) guy several years ago > Kaleb 86-edsound familiar? He was very out-of-spec. > > Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes, I did have to kick somebody off once, and only once. I cant remember all the exact details but the guy ended up sending a post cussing us out or something. Then is seems I had to put somebody on moderation status and they didnt like it so left on their own. Thats the only trouble we have had. Funny how the RE list has to have such strict rules etc and kick many people off. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > Rick Knoble wrote: >> >> > Smart ass's >> > were suppose to be kicked off. >> > >> > Robb >> >> Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". > > There was one woman who seemed intentionally dense that Richarde kicked > off this list's predecessor. Has Kleb ever kicked anybody off? > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
I seem to remember one Carlos (I think his name was) guy several years ago Kaleb 86-edsound familiar? He was very out-of-spec. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin Rick Knoble wrote: > > > Smart ass's > > were suppose to be kicked off. > > > > Robb > > Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". There was one woman who seemed intentionally dense that Richarde kicked off this list's predecessor. Has Kleb ever kicked anybody off? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Rick Knoble wrote: > > > Smart ass's > > were suppose to be kicked off. > > > > Robb > > Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". There was one woman who seemed intentionally dense that Richarde kicked off this list's predecessor. Has Kleb ever kicked anybody off? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
> Smart ass's > were suppose to be kicked off. > > Robb Wrong list. You must be talking about the "Ritter/Easley list". Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
I have NO idea what you are talking about Robb. This is a very strange post so perhaps you should explain what you are talking about? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Robb Taglieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin > Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is about > sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I > paid > for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting > being > "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. > This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping for. > Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be > helpful > may even help you in your own business. > Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop > owners > with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart > ass's > were suppose to be kicked off. > > Robb > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin
Kaleb, Maybe I should remind you of what the list is about. It is about sharing ideas and helping to troubleshoot 14 year old cars... whether I paid for the listing or not. If I paid for the listing up to this posting being "Now" very helpful but for yours I'd be disappointed with the response. This posting has gotten alot of feedback: The feedback I was hoping for. Maybe Kaleb, practicing alittle respect for others and trying to be helpful may even help you in your own business. Remember, this list was developed to help guys like me and small shop owners with other guys experiences from around the country chiming in. Smart ass's were suppose to be kicked off. Robb ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
