[MBZ] testing my mercedes 300td AC

2015-09-24 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
Folks

i've been out testing the 82 300TD AC and car.

I replaced the r4 compressor again about 2 weeks ago.

Last week i dragged a 1500 lb printing press to Tupelo, MS from athens, ga 
relatively uneventfully. As i left there i had no vacuum or boost on the 
brakes. Fortunately, the trailer was unladen on the return trip. Back in 
athens, i was preparing to change the vacuum pump but got the idea to blow out 
the check valve of the pump. I had already flushed it with some solvent. I blew 
it out with the air hose last week and i've had good boost ever since. 

So, Tuesday afternoon, i went out for another test. I drove 600 miles to 
indianapolis, in. There i picked up a 1000 lb press and probably 500 lbs of 
lead type.

I turned around and left indy about 5 pm wednesday and made it back to athens  
about 4 am.

I stopped at the i-75 georgia welcome center about 1 am and made some coffee. 
When i started back up the starter made a weak GRRR sound and barely turned the 
hot engine over … which fortunately started instantly. I decided, wisely, that 
i shouldn't shut it down. 

I had some much crap in the car that i couldn't have much hope of finding the 
meter, so i never checked for charge.

As i was on the home stretch about 10 miles out, i noticed that the lights 
dimmed slightly when i put the AC blower on high fan.

When i got home, the starter wouldn't turn the engine over.

i am charging the battery now to start it and check the charging.

The alternator belts are tight and i guess i should check the rear wires to the 
alternator.

So, AC test successful …. alternator test, less successful.

I drove about 2000 miles in the last 8 or 9 days …. 1000 miles dragging 1500 
lbs … ac works

brake vacuum still good and maybe i'm not charging.

Had i realized that i wasn't charging, i'd have unplugged one headlight to 
diminish the load on the battery

Not doing anything special i seem to have had 3+ hours of running with radio 
and AC and lights, etc …. which is pretty good.


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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www.javacycles.com
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Re: [MBZ] testing my mercedes 300td AC

2015-09-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
In a complete absence of facts I'm going to guess alternator. In my limited 
experience when the regulator fails you get a light but the alternator can fail 
without it. Fortunately they're relatively easy to change...
-Curt

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Folks

i've been out testing the 82 300TD AC and car.

I replaced the r4 compressor again about 2 weeks ago.

Last week i dragged a 1500 lb printing press to Tupelo, MS from athens, ga 
relatively uneventfully. As i left there i had no vacuum or boost on the 
brakes. Fortunately, the trailer was unladen on the return trip. Back in 
athens, i was preparing to change the vacuum pump but got the idea to blow out 
the check valve of the pump. I had already flushed it with some solvent. I blew 
it out with the air hose last week and i've had good boost ever since. 

So, Tuesday afternoon, i went out for another test. I drove 600 miles to 
indianapolis, in. There i picked up a 1000 lb press and probably 500 lbs of 
lead type.

I turned around and left indy about 5 pm wednesday and made it back to athens  
about 4 am.

I stopped at the i-75 georgia welcome center about 1 am and made some coffee. 
When i started back up the starter made a weak GRRR sound and barely turned the 
hot engine over … which fortunately started instantly. I decided, wisely, that 
i shouldn't shut it down. 

I had some much crap in the car that i couldn't have much hope of finding the 
meter, so i never checked for charge.

As i was on the home stretch about 10 miles out, i noticed that the lights 
dimmed slightly when i put the AC blower on high fan.

When i got home, the starter wouldn't turn the engine over.

i am charging the battery now to start it and check the charging.

The alternator belts are tight and i guess i should check the rear wires to the 
alternator.

So, AC test successful …. alternator test, less successful.

I drove about 2000 miles in the last 8 or 9 days …. 1000 miles dragging 1500 
lbs … ac works

brake vacuum still good and maybe i'm not charging.

Had i realized that i wasn't charging, i'd have unplugged one headlight to 
diminish the load on the battery

Not doing anything special i seem to have had 3+ hours of running with radio 
and AC and lights, etc …. which is pretty good.


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
www.ricktheprinter.com
www.letterpressmachinery.com
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Re: [MBZ] testing my mercedes 300td AC

2015-09-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Way-to-go on the AC compressor, sounds like you've got that buttoned down.

I checked the alternator harness connector by hooking up my meter with some
long test leads so I could lay under the car and see the meter.  Front end
up on ramps and on a 124 there is easy access to the alternator and
harness, don't know about a 123.193.  I started the engine and watched the
meter, and it immediately jumped from ~12.5 volts up to ~13.6 when I
touched the harness, and simultaneously there was a click from the
alternator and the engine slowed down slightly as it picked up the
electrical load on the alternator.

You could also tap on the alternator to see if the brushes need coaxing to
make contact, and then maybe all you need is a new regulator assembly (has
new brushes).

I had a long-term oil leak from the front crank seal that had coated the
engine front including the alternator with oil, so I took the alternator
entirely apart a couple years ago and cleaned all that up, especially
focusing on the internal contacts from rectifier bridge to alternator body
and the same for the voltage regulator.

Don't forget that you can get the alternator tested for free at FLAPS, the
O-Reilly's in town here has the best test equipment and people who are
actually trained in using it.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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