Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-31 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: $75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches. Grab 'em up boys Its about the same price of 1 hour labor. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-31 Thread Gary Hurst
too cheap. way too cheap On 3/30/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 30, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: $75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches. Grab 'em up boys Its about the same price of 1 hour labor. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Gary Hurst
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hue wong Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches? So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box , valve adjustment, wrenches were

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Loren Faeth
I never used the official wrenches. I have never even seen them, other than in pictures. I have always used just plain open end (combination) 14mm wrenches. You need one that is thin. Lately I have been using a cheap combination wrench that has been ground to make the jaws thinner, for

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
What he said! My experience, almost exactly. On 3/29/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never used the official wrenches. I have never even seen them, other than in pictures. I have always used just plain open end (combination) 14mm wrenches. You need one that is thin. Lately I

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread B Dike
The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary. Valve adjustments are easy to do with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so you can see exactly where to place them. The only thing you might consider is file or grind one down to make it a tad thinner to grab the lower nut.

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

2006-03-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:37:23 -0800 Dennis Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your having problems getting it just right vs. tight. Is this right? Yes. Craig

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Levi Smith
Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and therefore allow more movement? Levi B Dike wrote: The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary. Valve adjustments are easy to do with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so you can see exactly where to place

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:14 AM, Levi Smith wrote: Is the idea that being bent they'll clear the injector lines and therefore allow more movement? Levi Yes, clearance is the reason they are shaped like that. I use the Hazet set, made specifically for the purpose. They cost somewhere in the

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Potter, Tom E
A few days ago, some chap on the list offered his for $40. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches? So I just looked on ebay

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats the funniest thing i have heard in a while. B Dike wrote: The bent wrenches are totally unnecessary. Valve adjustments are easy to do with standard open end wrenches, just use a good light so you can see exactly where to place them. The only thing you might consider is file or

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth
Dennis Perkins wrote: My understanding is it's better to have them on the loose side if your having problems getting it just right vs. tight. Is this right? There is a little additional noise, little consequence in performance and none to starting when the valves are a little loose. When

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
$75.00 for a 3 piece set of Genuine MB wrenches. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches? we used to sell those just

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches? we used to sell those just about every day. last i remember they were $85 for the set of 3, but not sure what they cost now On 3/29/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.samstagsales.com

[MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-29 Thread hue wong
So I just looked on ebay and a pair of bent 14mm box , valve adjustment, wrenches were going for $$$65.00... Zoiks! I say!!! Seems high... I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so does anyone know of a better deal out there? Thanks in advance!

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't have the ability to heat and bend my own, so does anyone know of a better deal out there? You could. A propane torch, a bottle of MAPP gas, and a pair of pliers (or two) is about all you need. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-29 Thread R A Bennell
Should be able to heat with a basic propane torch and bend with a basic bench vice. Not rocket science. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hue wong Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] valve

Re: [MBZ] valve adjustment wrenches?

2006-03-29 Thread R A Bennell
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#diesel About $100 for 2 of the bent wrench and one of the other. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of hue wong Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] valve

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-09 Thread OK Don
Then again, I have a blow torch, but am too lazy to look for two cheap wrenchs to bend, so I jsut use the straight ones I already have. Yes - you have to monkey around a few minutes to findthe correct approach for a few of the valves, but it can be done on 615, 616, and 617 engines without the

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I got some cheap wrenches at Harbor Freight and heated then bent them at 2x45deg, one bend maybe an inch from the business end and another about an inch or so above that. Whatever made them look like the expensive German ones that cost about 50x more. They worked fine. --R Hans Neureiter

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hans, I have those expensive German ones Had a moment of monetary imprudence Want me to take some pix.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD... On Oct 7, 2005, at 4:24 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I got some cheap wrenches at Harbor Freight and heated then bent

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread John M McIntosh
Tools, mmm I'm sure I've bookmark somewhere http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm On 7-Oct-05, at 4:30 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Hans, I have those expensive German ones Had a moment of monetary imprudence Want me to take some pix.. Take care, Chuck

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread Sunil Hari
bought a set on ebay for $40. Course, i don't have a blowtorch to heat up my own wrenches, so I think I got a good deal. On 10/7/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tools, mmm I'm sure I've bookmark somewhere http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm On 7-Oct-05, at 4:30 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread G.E.
2 14mm wrenches @ .99 : 1.98 blowtorch: 8-10 bucks propane bottle: 4 bucks wrenches for 15 dollars and you still have a blowtorch. how can you make creme brulee without one? isildur, who bent his own wrenches and thinks no kitchen is complete without a blowtorch. On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Sunil

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread redghost
Have the torch and fuel, but am an idiot Take the two wrenches I picked up at the BB auto parts bin for $0.99 to visit my BiL Ask him to fab, since he does welding and has a good shop After he makes them, he takes me through how to adjust valves, since he is Uncle Sam trained Mechanic

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I will tell you how to do it. I like Lagavulin --R redghost wrote: Have the torch and fuel, but am an idiot Take the two wrenches I picked up at the BB auto parts bin for $0.99 to visit my BiL Ask him to fab, since he does welding and has a good shop After he makes them, he takes me

[MBZ] Valve adjustment wrenches

2005-10-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
I am working on making valve adjustment wrenches for my 617.951 engine and like to know the correct dimensions. Thanks angle I ? / _ / I / Height ? ===/ I 14mm Combi wrench -L?- -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D