Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

Karl, I'd replace all the rubber vacuum lines, rubber oxidizes and ages. The comparative cost of genuine Mercedes-Benz rubber hose, purchases in bulk, is probably going to be so low that it is well worth the piece of mind. In addition, if I were the Mechanic, I would vastly prefer to have as

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

arl Wittnebel" <atypical...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy Do people typically replace all the rubber vacuum lines along with the pods/actuators? I suppose if they are not stretched they should be ok, but still they a

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

Do people typically replace all the rubber vacuum lines along with the pods/actuators? I suppose if they are not stretched they should be ok, but still they are 28 years old now. I will wait for the blower to blow. Thanks for the info :-) On Nov 6, 2015 4:29 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

I replaced all the plastic vacuum lines in the 450SLC under hood when I rebuilt the engine because they broke if you bent them much at all. A couple of meters of the tubing was not expensive from Rusty. On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:31 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Plastic

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

Heater core failure is quite rare, but you should replace the 0-rings on the pipes when you have the heater box out. Blower motor and controller can be changed without taking anything other than some trim and the wiper motor out. I've done all these so far, and need to do the evaporator

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

Ordering all vacuum pods. Do heater cores ever go bad on these cars? What about the blower motors? Thanks. On Nov 5, 2015 10:49 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Really depends on your goal. I would imagine a used dash in good shape is > far less expensive than

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

I think the book rate is more like 14 hours? If I were to pay someone, I'd budget at least $2k, and I'd find an independent mechanic who works on the "classics" because most dealers probably don't have anyone left who has been factory trained to work on these cars. I think you'll really just

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

Really depends on your goal. I would imagine a used dash in good shape is far less expensive than a new dash, but you'd need to check with Classic Center or MB Northlake to get an idea on prices for new. The risk with a used dash is condition: Is it just about to start cracking? If you can

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

"Meade Dillon via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Meade Dillon" <dillonm...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap e

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

des@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Meade Dillon" <dillonm...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy I think the book rate is more like 14 hours? If I were to

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

What do you all feel the going mechanic rate should be for this job, labor only? I'm thinking over 2k around LA. That 400e FOR Sale On peachparts APPARENTLY Had Evap Done FOR 2600 At THE dealer. Apparently it is like 10 hours of work? Thanks, Karl ___

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

> WILTON wrote: > > Well done; thanks. > > ATTABOY! Your welcome. For me it was a trivial task because of my familiarity with the tools to do it. Glad I could use my skill to help! *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

> WILTON wrote: > > Summary of my 124 evapectomy in Jun '08 attached. > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... That attachment is a temp backup file from MS Office. I extracted it, made some of the URLs into clickable links and generated a PDF. *smiles* -- next part

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Well done; thanks. ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "fmiser via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "fmiser" <fmi...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash &

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Karl, Look here: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/vintage-mercedes/276653-mercedes-option-codes.html Not terribly easy to use, but looks like authoritative data from MB with the dates that the codes apply and what they mean to Mercedes. Hope this helps! - Max Charleston SC On

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Will have to give this another try. I get a page full of various codes that seem like they would take forever to copy and paste into google, like 30 of them. On Oct 26, 2015 6:04 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > If you establish an account for online EPC access, then

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

> > Anybody know how to tell from epcstartekinfo whether a car had leather > interior? It does not pop up on the option list/datacard. The photos are > poor, but they do show perforations in the seat pleats, rather like my > mbtex w123 interior, which makes me think this is an MBtex interior

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

If you establish an account for online EPC access, then you plug in the vin, then at one of the top menu choices, F2 or "options" I think, you select data card from the drop down. In the data card, there will be a list of codes for the car's options, you Google search online for the secret

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Gosh thanks for all the replies so quick on Saturday night! I had similar thoughts to Dan about the relative wisdom of skimping, and similar thoughts to Curly about how 4 seasons might actually outperform the mb part. The guy who suggested four seasons is the son of a 30y mb master mechanic and

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Just to make this even more academic, the original 1987 evaporator hasn't even failed yet (unlike every other part of the AC system). I am just switching it because "I" am replacing the dash. K On Oct 25, 2015 2:03 AM, "Karl Wittnebel" wrote: > Gosh thanks for all the

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

My original evaporator is also holding just fine, 349k miles on my '87 wagon. My '95 sedan is the leaker, it has about 358k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 25, 2015 5:13:57 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >Just to make this

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

My original evaporator is also holding just fine, 349k miles on my '87 wagon. My '95 sedan is the leaker, it has about 358k miles. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 Which tells me that MB still didn't get it right by the end of production. to me, that makes a stronger argument

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Loren, no idea if the evaporator is original. No service records, I've owned the car about ten years, about 75k miles. AC was not working when I got the car, it had been converted to R134a, ignorant "mechanic" had add extra wiring to try to gerry-rig the compressor to run. New seals and

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Might wanna try reattaching as a PDF or sommat. :) On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:51 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Summary of my 124 evapectomy in Jun '08 attached. > > Wilton > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name:

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Karl, I don’t want to sound d*ckish, but why are you cutting corners on a job that involves easily 20+ hours of work? OK, so you maybe save $200 on an evaporator. Until you have to take it out in a couple of years when it fails. You’re saving some serious coin by doing this yourself, I

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Don't install an evaporator with copper pipes, those are the ones that fail at the crimp joint between copper and aluminum core! This is a bear of a job, one I've done once and need to do again (not on the same car). Do it right, you do NOT want to do it twice, believe me. Took me three

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Would be great to see what is involved. I am ordering parts now. I am told new drains are in order. Has anyone ever used an evap from four seasons? They are copper tubed: http://m.ebay.com/itm/171971556986?_mwBanner=1 Just wondering if the foam surround is reusable from the old evap, as this four

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Karl, I don't want to sound d*ckish, but why are you cutting corners on a job that involves easily 20+ hours of work? OK, so you maybe save $200 on an evaporator. Until you have to take it out in a couple of years when it fails. You're saving some serious coin by doing this yourself, I

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Ditto, this is not a place to cut corners. Note from Larry: the new evaporator should be pressurized with nitrogen, which you should hear escaping with a hiss when the end caps are removed. No hiss? Get a refund and replacement before the dash is installed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87

[MBZ] w124 dash & evapectomy

Summary of my 124 evapectomy in Jun '08 attached. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: evapectomysummary.wps Type: application/msworks Size: 58368 bytes Desc: not available URL:

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Kaleb says it is the same dash either way, glove box and airbag fit into same hole? On Oct 22, 2015 4:25 PM, "clay via Mercedes" wrote: > Dash needs to be pre-1992, as they added air bag in the glove box hole > later on. > > clay > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Karl

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Yes. And not all post 92 cars had air bag. It was optional. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb says it is the same dash either way, glove box and airbag fit into > same hole? >> On Oct 22, 2015 4:25 PM,

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Ok thanks. A few more questions if I may: 1. Anyone have a part number for an A/C evaporator for an 87 wagon? Seems to be $517 list from MB. I want a copper one, but that is truly spendy. 2. Do heater cores go bad in 87 w124s? 3. Do 87 w124 cars suffer from the center vent actuator failure

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

gt; Sent: 23 October 2015 20:22 To: mercedes@okiebenz com Cc: Karl Wittnebel Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash Ok thanks. A few more questions if I may: 1. Anyone have a part number for an A/C evaporator for an 87 wagon? Seems to be $517 list from MB. I want a copper one, but that is truly spendy.

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

The heater core in my 123 has had a small leak for years now that I have ignored, but needs to be fixed eventually. Not sure why, but they do seem to go bad. Maybe using water instead of coolant corroded it - I did that once when I overheated it. No worries I have a real mechanic lined up to

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

> On October 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Karl, > > Methinks the pats guy you’re talking to is pulling your lariat. Methinks the 'wholesale guy' Karl needs to talk to at Northlake is Tony, who is in charge of the internet sales. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Sent: 23 October 2015 20:22 > To: mercedes@okiebenz com > Cc: Karl Wittnebel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash > > Ok thanks. A few more questions if I may: > > 1. Anyone have a part number for an A/C evaporator for an 87 wagon? Seems > to be $517 list from MB. I want a copper one

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

2. I don't think so, I would imagine that if proper coolant was always used and changed on schedule, that would never be a problem. Maybe you can take it out and have a good radiator shop test it and give you an opinion? Get a used heater core from junkyard and have that tested before-hand, and

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Karl, Methinks the pats guy you’re talking to is pulling your lariat. http://mbnorthlakeparts.com/parts/index.cfm?searchText=1248300758=Mercedes-Benz=oePartSearch=217496 It’s even cheaper on their website than MB of Atlanta. $386.25 Dan > On Oct 23, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Karl W

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

58 > 124 830 06 58 > 124 830 07 58 > > > From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of Karl > Wittnebel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: 23 October 2015 20:22 > To: mercedes@okiebenz com > Cc: Karl Wittnebel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 dash &g

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Dash needs to be pre-1992, as they added air bag in the glove box hole later on. clay On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Hi All, > > Decided to upgrade wagons two years to an 87 wagon with a 606 swap. Anyway > it has some interior issues and I need a bit of help.

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Thanks Kaleb for that info. New dash on its way. Karl On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The passenger airbag is an after thought. They are mounted with a bracket > that you mount to the car. In other words, if you take the bracket

[MBZ] w124 dash

Hi All, Decided to upgrade wagons two years to an 87 wagon with a 606 swap. Anyway it has some interior issues and I need a bit of help. 1. The dash is quite cracked up. My plan is have replacement installed. Replacements are available on ebay but I don't know if later w124 dash will work for

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Karl, cool car! Is the 606 swap the turbo version of the 606, and (if yes) did they include the intercooler? Use the mechanical injection pump? Performance numbers? 1 - yes the later dash will have airbag differences, you may be able to retrofit the required controllers to make all that work,

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Photo got filtered. Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t9bkqh4szwjffdq/2015-08-26%2007.59.23.jpg?dl=0 On Oct 21, 2015 11:57 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Karl, cool car! Is the 606 swap the turbo version of the 606, and (if yes) > did they include the

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Wow, looks like someone put a lot of time into modifying the car. I see it has the right front fender gill for air intake, face-lift hood and euro lights, hood ornament delete and "S" class grill. What color are you going to paint it now that it's got the primer on? ;) What I would like to do

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

If that is the same year that Max has then I have a receiver hitch with all the bolts That I took off a car in the u-pull when I was getting parts for his car. Would probably cost a bit to ship but would sell it for what I paid for it. Manfred Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:29:32 -0700 From: Karl

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

> I try not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Or slightly crappy cosmesis be the enemy of a properly-executed om606 w124 swap. > > It's matte clearcoat. > > Welding some metal around the subframe bushing mounts seems easier than doing an engine swap myself. Do you have any photos of

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Sorry I don't know what year Max's car is. Is it the euro style hitch where the ball is one piece with the big proboscis sticking out from beneath the bumper? If so, let's work something out. Thanks, Karl On Oct 21, 2015 5:13 PM, "MG via Mercedes" wrote: > If that is the

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

DUH! slapping myself upside the head. So in that case it would fit your car Karl. Manfred Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 17:50:40 -0400 From: Max Dillon Mine is also an '87 (124.193). See my signature. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Mine is also an '87 (124.193). See my signature. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 21, 2015 5:31:06 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >Sorry I don't know what year Max's car is. > >Is it the euro style hitch where the ball is one piece

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

The passenger airbag is an after thought. They are mounted with a bracket that you mount to the car. In other words, if you take the bracket out and the airbag you can put a regular glove box in. So if you are putting it in an earlier non air bag car you just swap in your glove box. Sent from

Re: [MBZ] w124 dash

Thanks for the thorough reply Max! Responses: 1. I do not want to make the airbags work. I just don't want to purchase a replacement dash and have a big hole because I have no airbag to go into it. 2. Looks like the 91-93 r129, 15 hole, 16x8 ET34 rims will work. They should be pretty cheap and

[MBZ] W124 Dash Speaker

Anybody got one they want to get rid of. In working condition, of course. Eldest son's W124 has a wonky right front speaker. It works, but intermittently. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] W124 Dash Speaker

Most likely not the speaker but the wiring, amps if it has them, or the radio or fader switch if equipped Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Anybody got one they want to get rid of. In working condition, of course. Eldest son's W124 has a

Re: [MBZ] W124 Dash Speaker

All aftermarket other than the wiring. Dan On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Most likely not the speaker but the wiring, amps if it has them, or the radio or fader switch if equipped Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

Re: [MBZ] W124 Dash Speaker

sounds like a loose wire then. On 4/13/2014 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: All aftermarket other than the wiring. Dan On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Most likely not the speaker but the wiring, amps if it has them, or the radio or fader switch if equipped Sent from my