Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?

2013-07-21 Thread Chris James
How did you ever find that What were they thinking, even before the accident? On 7/16/2013 8:44 PM, clay wrote:> view photos MERCEDES CLK500 Year: 2006 Make: MERCEDES Model: CLK500 Description: V8, AUTO, A/C, CRUISE, TILT, P/WDW, P/SEAT, P/LOCK, SUNROOFs/n: WDBT

Re: [MBZ] kick down switch

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
It just moves a bit, not 1/4" I can hear mine click on/off. Just put the ohmmeter on it and see if it is open and closed. --R On 7/20/13 7:15 PM, Larry T wrote: I tinkered with it and it only moved about 1/16" of a inch. I expected 1/4" or so. ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
I went drinking beer yesterday with a friend who is a retired USAir (+Force) pilot. I asked him when he landed his airplanes if he ever failed to monitor airspeed and altitude and power and all that. He just laughed and said Sum Ting Wong was a compete failure as a pilot, no matter what kind

[MBZ] OT Speaking of airplanes

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10192280/Is-the-Mosquito-the-greatest-warplane-of-all.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe o

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 300sd

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail Fail --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jul 20, 2013, at 9:33 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "craigslist 3943180464" > Date: July 18, 2013, 10:24:31 PM CDT > To: abe3003cd458309d9729ece72accc...@reply.craigs

[MBZ] 91 350SDL

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
PLACE YOUR BIDS; BRING A TRAILER I lost a lot of confidence in the car the day the timing chain broke at 89 kmi in April 1996. 'Few days later, learned about many other owners' problems with same engine -- rod-bender, etc. Many of you have noticed that I've many times said, "Car doing well -

[MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
Rich, Max, Tim, thank you for your concern and efforts on my behalf; they are sincerely appreciated, but considering my overall situation with the car - its lack of use, my physical impairments that affect my ability to properly care for it as I would like, etc., related more fully in an accompany

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Allan Streib
I would disagree about the DC-10 comparison, in that as far as we know this aircraft was undamaged and functioning perfectly in all respects. The "FLCH trap" is ostensibly a well-known idiosyncracy of the 777 automation and thus FLCH mode is not advised during approach, but perhaps through trainin

[MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread MG
Hey does anyone know if there is going to be someone appointed to list mom duties or is that just going to sit in the dust by the trail? Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
'Zackly, re. failure to monitor critical info. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" To: "Peter Frederick" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana I would disagree about the DC-10 comparison, in that as far as we

[MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
44 years ago yesterday, men from Planet Earth first walked on the Moon. This is what they used to get there. 1.5 million pounds of thrust from EACH of 5 engines, more power flowing through the nozzle than was electric power being generated in the whole United States at that moment. Not one eng

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Dan Penoff
I offered some time ago but never got a response. I don't think the current Mom wants to relegate control. It might cause a conflict with their parts business Dan On Jul 21, 2013, at 2:27 PM, MG wrote: > Hey does anyone know if there is going to be someone appointed to list mom > duties

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer

2013-07-21 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > No need for oriface any more. Libre office is free, as is googelie > docs. Libre Office is fine for what most people need in an "office" software package, but it is far from 100% compatible with MS Office, if that is a consideration. However thanks to

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
I can not imagine anything more awesome than a Saturn 5 during liftoff. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V 44 years ago yesterday, men from Planet Earth first wal

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
Oh, it runs and seems to run nicely; 'fraid to run it so much, though, with fuel in the oil. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "WILTON" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:33 PM Subject: Re: '91 350SDL bad news Let me discuss with Max and see what we might come up with

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The other thing I come back to though, is that almost without exception every analysis I've seen by anyone who actually flies the 777 says that there is no excuse for the crew failing to monitor their approach parameters and either correcting them in time or going around. I

[MBZ] fixer upper??

2013-07-21 Thread Larry T
just the thing for circling the local Sonic on Friday nights! (it's only $29 Million Plus) http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130712/CARNEWS01/130719952 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:

Re: [MBZ] WD40

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Does aliphatic hydrocarbon translate to solvent, naptha, petroleum medium aliphatic? Or is the latter simply one of many aliphatic hydrocarbons? I am not a chemist and if they are one and the same then I shall shut off my fingers..lol Mike On Jul 20, 2013 9:02 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > *

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread clay
A little off topic The w220 is one of the new, long period lubrication engines. Previous cars got regular oil swaps between 3-6k miles. They probably got driven a bit more as well. I never noticed sludge, except on Gump after the cam tower broke and I stopped driving it. A few month later t

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread clay
I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as long as you take the lead. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer

2013-07-21 Thread clay
Intel is trying to let go of the consumer dependency and increase the commercial and research end of thier market. They pilfered talent from Cray to build stronger chips and powerful supercomputers. M$ is getting a bit decrepit. Recent corporate re-alignment resulted in a few neighbors being

Re: [MBZ] Gerrys surgery

2013-07-21 Thread clay
good to know you have come through it well. Take care to remain in good health for the foreseeable future. clay On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: > Saw surgeon today for pathology report. > Tumor had not spread; removed intact; clean bill of health. > Many thanks to all for you

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 300sd

2013-07-21 Thread clay
I think you have failed On Jul 20, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "craigslist 3943180464" >> Date: July 18, 2013, 10:25:48 PM CDT >> To: abe3003cd458309d9729ece72accc...@reply.craigslist.org >> Subject: 300sd >>

Re: [MBZ] WD40

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Canfield
Oh, and the other point..wouldn't a petroleum based aliphatic hydrocarbon such as naptha or stoddard solvent be listed as carcinogenic or at least toxic? And the exposure levels seem very high for the aliphatic hydrocarbon compared to the petroleum base oils. What do you make of that? I thou

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer

2013-07-21 Thread clay
major corporations are not on the quick upgrade path, so M$ is not making cash on major sales anymore. Corporate growth used to allow for fresh hardware to supply employees. No growth, means no new hardware coming in, and force reductions result in fewer upgrades. SWMBA's firm is on a 36-40 m

Re: [MBZ] WD40

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Canfield
I guess, to answer my own question, it appears everything from mineral oil to stoddard solvent, naptha and kerosene are considered non-toxic due to ingestion according to the poison control center. Interesting. Mike On Jul 21, 2013 4:00 PM, "Michael Canfield" wrote: > Oh, and the other point...

Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?

2013-07-21 Thread clay
That POS is coming up for auction this coming weekend http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/429 On Jul 21, 2013, at 3:34 AM, Chris James wrote: > > How did you ever find that What were they thinking, even before the > accident? > > > On 7/16/2013 8:44 PM, clay wrote:> view photos

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer

2013-07-21 Thread Allan Streib
clay writes: > Intel is trying to let go of the consumer dependency and increase the > commercial and research end of thier market. They pilfered talent > from Cray to build stronger chips and powerful supercomputers. Hm perhaps that explains why Cray is using Intel processors in their new "Cas

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) TCP/IP not working on WinXP computer

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Frederick
With no "consumer dependency" they will HAVE no market. The normal result of a monopoly, eventually people learn to get around it, and the organization dies -- no new ideas. Intel monopolized the PC chip market for something like 40 years, with a few exceptions, and is no no longer able to

Re: [MBZ] WD40

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Frederick
That's because they aren't particularly toxic. Might make you puke, but won't poison you. Not that I recommend drinking WD-40. I suspect the contents are moderately oxygenated middle-weight linear hydrocarbons. Some minor lubricating properties, but the design intent was to displace wate

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
It doesn't seem to be losing coolant now; I'll put some more oil in it and try it a bit again tomorrow. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Rich Thomas" ; "mercedes list" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Oh, it runs and seems

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
It doesn't seem to be losing coolant now; I'll put some more oil in it and try it a bit again tomorrow. Idles and runs nicely; 'fraid to drive it so much with fuel in the oil. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "mercedes list" ; "Rich Thomas" Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
I may be thinking of the wrong DC-10 event, but by recollection is the pilots still had complete control of the airplane until they transitioned to the steeper, slower noise abatement climb out. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter F

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread Scott Ritchey
That was then, this is now. Then we worried about National prestige and the economy. Now "we" worry about the clicking sound of car door locks. Back then I worked as a mission planner and flight controller on Apollo 12-17; so I never got to the Cape for a launch. But I did stand next to a tied

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Nope, on that DC-10 the engine separated shortly after takeoff disabling one hydraulic system and half the electrical power, hydraulic powered slat retracted on the starboard wing and not the port (if I remember correctly, could have been the other way), plane immediately rolled over and no

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
NASA is doing muslim outreach, that is arguably a better application of resources than rocket engines and such. --R On 7/21/13 5:20 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: That was then, this is now. Then we worried about National prestige and the economy. Now "we" worry about the clicking sound of car do

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Rich Thomas
Was that the one where the pilot was screaming allahuwa akbar as he bored the plane in? --R On 7/21/13 5:29 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: This is different than the Air France debacle where you have one pilot shouting "climb, climb, climb" and pulling the stick all the way back and the other pi

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, probably better if the Muslims in question can design cryogenic valves, since NASA is digging around in high tech junk yards looking for Apollo program parts to reverse engineer, seems they can't design any new ones. Maybe we should hire some North Koreans, eh? Probably get them ch

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-21 Thread Peter Frederick
Different story, that was and Air Egypt. Seems that model of Airbus can go nuts and start porposing when it flies over certain types of radio beacons, sorta like Creighton's "Airframe" plane did. Several well known instances, fortunately for the rest of them control was regained before t

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread MG
I've always waited till the engine was a quart low and nice and warmed up after a long run. Then add one quart of diesel fuel and let run for 15 min or so then drain and do the normal oil change. Don't know how much gunk it will get rid of since I've never had any but it does keep things clean

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread MG
Yeah but that was before the great fiasco. Maybe now is the time for change especially since list mom doesn't seem to be able to keep up with things very much any more. After all there isn't time for everything no matter how much one may want to. In any case how does a simple moderator helper c

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Gerry Archer
Has anyone thought about running the list out of Yahoogroups? I've been on Yahoogroups for years and only had minor problems when they upgraded software. Y/G has several bells and whistles that are convenient such a polling and the ability to read all emails on the Y/G website anytime and as fa

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread Mitch Haley
clay wrote: I think the shop used a Shell full synth. Shell Helix Ultra is 229.5 oil. Anything else Shell is probably crap. I'd put the right stuff in and change it every 5k until the sludge is gone. Back in the 1980s I worked for a Saab indy who liked to dump a quart of fuel oil in for a f

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL

2013-07-21 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: It doesn't seem to be losing coolant now; I'll put some more oil in it and try it a bit again tomorrow. Idles and runs nicely; 'fraid to drive it so much with fuel in the oil. Then get a sample kit from Larry and find out exactly what is in the sump. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Gerrys surgery

2013-07-21 Thread Bob Rentfro
Muy bueno. Bob R. On Jul 20, 2013 6:40 PM, "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Saw surgeon today for pathology report. > Tumor had not spread; removed intact; clean bill of health. > Many thanks to all for your prayers and encouragement. > Gerry > > __**_ > http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-21 Thread Dieselhead
I can not imagine anything more awesome than a Saturn 5 during liftoff. Wilton Not of man made things. A cat 5 hurricane or F5 tornado is in the same ball park, as is the current 30 year old eruption of Kilauea, Mt Penetubo, Mt. St. Helens eruption etc. __

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
If the floors, rockers, and jack points are good, its worth the money. If those are shot, then you've got a big project on your hands and not worth it unless you really want to keep the car. In person you can see how accurate the mileage is by checking wear on the steering wheel, pedals, driver's

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread clay
The shell stuff is what Big O lists. They had to order out for it. Moving to M1 on the next change. I might do a brake cleaner blast at the fill port. Cleaning the gunk from the fill hole will ease my mind. Give it a hot run, use the lubro moly product, spray the cleaner to wash the crap do

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well crap you are making it hard for me to turn it down. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > If the floors, rockers, and jack points are good, its worth the money. If > those are shot, then you've got a big project on your hands and not worth > it unless

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: > I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in > the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A reasonable set > of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as long as you take the > lead. > Now all we gotta get is Kaleb to pony u

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay wrote: > I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done > with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A > reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as > long as you take the lead. Did y

Re: [MBZ] clay 603

2013-07-21 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay wrote: > >> I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done >> with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A >> reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as >> long as you tak

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 18:28:56 -0400 "Gerry Archer" wrote: > Has anyone thought about running the list out of Yahoogroups? I've > been on Yahoogroups for years and only had minor problems when they > upgraded software. > Y/G has several bells and whistles that are convenient such a polling > and t

Re: [MBZ] clay 603

2013-07-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:28:28 -0500 Mountain Man wrote: > Craig wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay wrote: > > > >> I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done > >> with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A > >> reasonable set of

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "MG" wrote: > Hey does anyone know if there is going to be someone appointed to list mom > duties or is that just going to sit in the dust by the trail? Huh? Approving new members? Moderating OT discussions? Approving large attached jpegs? As far as photos are c

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:28 PM, "Craig" wrote: > Why make everyone change and then sign up with Yahoo just to go to > Yahoogroups? There already is a mb diesel yahoo group. Way too much dis-information there for my tastes... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] clay 603

2013-07-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you are talking about Wilton's car then yes Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Craig wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay wrote: >> >>> I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done >>> with in the driveway or street.

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have not been paying attention to this. Somebody griping about something? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Craig wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 18:28:56 -0400 "Gerry Archer" > wrote: > >> Has anyone thought about running the list out of Yahoogroups? I've >> been on Yahoogroup

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Allan Streib
Gerry Archer writes: > Has anyone thought about running the list out of Yahoogroups? I've been on > Yahoogroups for years and only had minor problems when they upgraded > software. > Y/G has several bells and whistles that are convenient such a polling and > the ability to read all emails on

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:45:25 -0500 Rick Knoble wrote: > On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "MG" wrote: > > > Hey does anyone know if there is going to be someone appointed to > > list mom duties or is that just going to sit in the dust by the trail? > > > Huh? Approving new members? Moderating OT d

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread OK Don
Duh, that green is one of, if not THE, ugliest color paint MB has ever used. Does that help??? On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Well crap you are making it hard for me to turn it down. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - bu

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The drivers front corner looks pretty nasty, I can't remember how far back from the wheel well the jack point is, if its pretty close I would say that one is toast. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > If the floors, rockers, and jack points are good, its

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
One other problem is its about 4 hours away. I'm on the fence with this one. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > If the floors, rockers, and jack points are good, its worth the money. If > those are shot, then you've got a big project on your hands and no

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car

2013-07-21 Thread dseretakis
I think the color is very cool! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:01 PM, OK Don wrote: > Duh, that green is one of, if not THE, ugliest color paint MB has ever used. > Does that help??? > > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> Well crap you are making it

Re: [MBZ] List Mom duties

2013-07-21 Thread Fmiser
> Gerry wrote: > > Has anyone thought about running the list out of Yahoogroups? Ugh. I'd rather not. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime greenie car

2013-07-21 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Offer him your standard offer and see what happens. I think the problem is that mechanical stuff is relatively easy to fix but fixing rust properly takes a lot of skill and time. Then you have to get it painted, which is expensive for good work. That green looks like it's faded but it's not. H

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-21 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Don't know burnt pumpkin orange has to be up there? Hendrik who likes vibrant colours, looked at a red S124 while back but it stalled during test drive On 22/07/13 11:31, OK Don wrote: Duh, that green is one of, if not THE, ugliest color paint MB has ever used. Does that help??? On Sun, Jul