Re: [MBZ] New phone

2014-07-16 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Same here. Wilt - Original Message - From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New phone On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:05:50 -0500 Mountain

[MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
It's the best oil for your Mercedes http://www.walmart.com/browse/motor-oil,-transmission-fluid-car-lubricant/motor-oil/mobil-1/91083_1104294_1072084/YnJhbmQ6TW9iiaWwgMQieie?_refineresult=true --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Says out of stock online About what I'm paying for Car Quest full synthetic 5w40 which carries the VW spec the Jetta wants. I've more or less standardized on that for most everything although the 190D is still running M1 since I had a gallon at its last change interval. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50 around here. I have gotten into the habit of checking the two Supercenters in the area online about once a week, and when they have it I buy a couple of jugs. With three MBs running the stuff I can't afford to run out. Dan Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How often are you changing? I'll probably change the Jetta at the end of next week which will be right around 250,000 miles with maybe 10k OCI. I should probably take a sample and see how things are inside. The 190D gets 10k changes, the Ranger 8k because it does mostly short trips. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Did you know that stuff is not really synthetic anymore, it's just group 3 base stock. Better off using delvac 1 Dino because you should not go extended oil changes with m1 anymore Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I change every 5k. Yeah, I know, I know. Cheap insurance and we're typically talking about twice a year for each car if that. Since the climate down here is nasty a good part of the year, I'm sure the oil takes a beating as it is. I'm sure I could go longer, but every six months is a good

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
How about the European formula? Isn't that still full synthetic? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:41 PM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Have you done any analysis? If you could go 10k that'd be once a year. The cheap insurance argument is BS, underusing your oil means its actually more abrasive, theres loads of info out there suggesting that oil wears in and is actually more protective after its been used some. Larry gets $60

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm gonna call shenanigans. Nobody has ever been able to prove that anything has changed with M1. The samples I took last year look just like the ones I took in 2006 and say the oil is good to at least 10k in my 190D. Loads of people are running extended changes with M1, you want to spend a

[MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Does anyone have a clue where to get steel reproduction floor and body panels for coupe and sedan 123's? Jaime? Jabba?‎ Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
dickarde would always tout some SKS place or something like that, but i'm pretty sure those aren't the 3 initials as that is a chinese rifle On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone have a clue where to get steel reproduction floor

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I am changing about every 5k-6k and I'm perfectly happy with that. If the oil hasn't broken in (and I would like to see the citations for these claims) by then it's not going to. For almost 25 years I worked with industrial diesels with 1000s of HP that had sumps well beyond 100 gallons.

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wasn't there a place in Cleveland that made all sorts of replacement panels for cars? Did they have MB stuff? It's these guys: http://www.tabcobodyparts.com/html/table_of_contents.htm Looks like they just have repair panels, not complete fenders. Dan On Jul 16, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is the lack of analysis on stationary engines a factor of short run times? Caterpillar has a super aggressive program of analysis that helps them keep machines running for way longer than ever before and lowers maintenance costs by allowing fluids to run longer. If I had an engine with a sump

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the takeoff appeared normal initially until the aircraft began to rotate, the nose lifted up, however, nothing happened. The nose dropped again, then rose

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all of the technology available today, that there is not something that essentially prevents the pilot from doing that. Randy On 16/07/2014 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
One last thing and I'll shut up, the analysis is so easy the hassle and expense is laughable. Remember you do it 3-5 times which shows you the duration that the oil is viable. You contact Larry and give him $60, he sends you 3 bellows bottles. You put the tube down the dipstick hole, crush all

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Did you see the pics of the plane where the whole dang top ripped off? This damage is minor in comparison. The only person that died in that one was a stewardess that was standing up. Imagine riding back to the airport in a convertible... -Curt From: Randy

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Second officer was Wi Tu Lo Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the

Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
I think that one went to his pay portal. clay On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Kent Bergsma had a you tube video how to for valve adjustments that I can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That was the Hawaiian 737? Lotsa cycles on those, updownupdownupdown... all day long. Salt air too. I guess it was a testament to the airplane that it held together. --R On 7/16/14 5:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Did you see the pics of the plane where the whole dang top ripped

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
Thanks. No aux fan. That was introduced later in the year. Hoses are a year old and holding well. It was the visco clutch that failed. Replaced it Monday. I was a retard and took the car for a 8 hour drive around Mt. Rainier over the weekend. It did fine, though did get hot clay On Jul

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
In the 2 190Ds I've had neither had a properly working fan clutch (the 190Ds are electric) and as long as the car is moving it doesn't really matter. Its puttering along in heavy traffic that gets ya. -Curt From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To:

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
The issue is sort of resolved now. The vicious fan had died, and paired with the screw up job the shop did trying to remove a backfire, the thing now runs way to rich and is all out of whack. I real D-jet mechanic will have to De-tune the tune up and fiddling to get it back to proper, but I

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
yes. Detergent flush, then citric, finally full tap water flush. Buttoned back up with new hoses and water pump. clay On Jul 11, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I forget, have you given it a citric acid flush? -- Jim On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So clearly the money for fixing everything will come when your solicitor calls shop A right? -Curt From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot

[MBZ] W140 Front calipers - FS

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
I picked up a pair of front calipers from a 95 S500 thinking that they would fit in a 92 300SE. The things are universal fit for 95-99 W140. Lucas, in very good shape and include nearly new brake pads. Ship from 98105 with UPS Ground. Does $200 sound like too much? clay

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is the lack of analysis on stationary engines a factor of short run times? Mostly. Because of the typical short cycle times, the oil is often contaminated by condensation in the engine. This is

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
Probably not the solution you desire, but I found out you can use coil cleaning spray product to dislodge the built up snot on the condenser and it does increase the cooling effect. I gave it a shot on my S430 and what was once blackened became silvery once more. The warm weather had been

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not sure I understand. Every industrial engine sampling program I ever ran was sampled on a regular schedule. I understand the baseline concept, but in the programs I worked with we would sample several times a year to determine the oil condition to determine when it was exhausted and should

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My experience with Caterpillar is limited to earthmovers where everybody does the samples. They sample hydraulic fluid too, a breakdown at a job site is way more expensive than pulling samples. I was under the impression over the road truckers were doing it too, another case where a breakdown

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Aloha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243 The plane had about 90K cycles which was 2.5 times the number it was designed for according to the article. On 16/07/2014 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: That was the Hawaiian 737? Lotsa cycles on those,

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread G. M. Brown via Mercedes
Since my '84 300D may very well be my last car and I didn't want to take a chance on used fenders from a junkyard, I obtained a couple fenders from the Classic Center in CA. As I recall, the price wasn't too exorbitant and the fellow ( jon.sigg...@mbusa.com ) I dealt with was very helpful.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah I vaguely recalled something like that. I guess Boeings are sorta the Mercedes of airplanes, but the German airplanes (and French etc. Airbuses) not quite. --R On 7/16/14 6:48 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Aloha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243 The plane had about

Re: [MBZ] W140 Front calipers - FS

2014-07-16 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
200 for the pair? they are new or rebuilt? what is the last 7 of your VIN? On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I picked up a pair of front calipers from a 95 S500 thinking that they would fit in a 92 300SE. The things are universal fit for 95-99

Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar

2014-07-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
It was a club event that introduced the troublesome shop. They were having a great savings deal if you scheduled a procedure. I went with the oil change. And for them to look into the back firing issue. They found many issues I knew of, as well as some that had been addressed, and they

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The earthmoving equipment side of Cat is a totally different animal compared to their Power Systems business. The earthmoving guys have totally brainwashed the customers that the only service they can use is Cat, and to do anything that isn't recommended by the factory is heresy and can result

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Depends on what you're looking for. If the idea is just to figure out a safe OCI you make a couple tests, like 5,000, 7,500, 10,000. If 10,000 looks good its probably fine to repeat. If 10,000 looks marginal you could make another run at it (I had to do that with my '85 190D, the previous owner

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This SOP for industrial engines. You sample on a regular basis, after a few samples you have a baseline and then you just compare each new one to determine if there is excessive or unusual wear in a particular area. Same thing for hydraulic fluids. Your Cat buddies are watching for changes in

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: Wasn't there a place in Cleveland that made all sorts of replacement panels for cars? I thought it was a place in MI that sold panels and floors. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
How about this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzr313wSY_Y mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It is my understanding that BIG Diesels have additional filtering that removes soot from the oil but these soot filters are not cost-effective for our little automotive Diesels. Obviously, a worn Diesel will allow a lot more soot to get in the oil so maybe sampling would allow extended change

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
For the most part large displacement stationary diesels have nothing more than banks of large spin on or cartridge type filters, much like you would find on your car engine. They're just larger and often in multiples in order to provide a larger filter area for the much larger oil volume. Some

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Try KK manufacturing. They used to make nearly all the body panels for W115 and W109 cars, so it's possible they do W123s as well. Don't know for a fact since it's been a while since I thought about restoring one. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
All of my (previous) MB Diesels with at or over 200,000 miles were sampled, and determined that at 15,000 mile change intervals they could go another 3-5k miles due to soot level. All other elements were in tolerance as well. Bear in mind that they leaked enough oil that there were several quarts

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Some prime power stationary diesels can have centrifugal filters as well. As do some small motorcycles! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
As did Fiats, Renaults, and Simcas in the '60s and 70's. It was in the crank pulley. They did not have oil filters. You pulled the cover from the crank pulley and dug out the compressed sludge. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some prime

Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels

2014-07-16 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
yeah, that's the one dickarde always talks about On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Try KK manufacturing. They used to make nearly all the body panels for W115 and W109 cars, so it's possible they do W123s as well. Don't know for a