did a bit of work this morning. About 3 hours to put an electric
fan from an 87 TD into my 83. May not look exactly factory but it
does push a bit more air when in traffic. That's good down here
in FL. Should have done it long ago but just came across the fan
in the local LKQ.
Manfred
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Curt, from the L stamped on the soles just forward of the heels, I must
assume that the size of the mukluks is LARGE. 'Any interest?
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Can you get more parts from the '87?
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 24, 2014 8:06 AM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
did a bit of work this morning. About 3 hours to put an electric fan from
an 87 TD into my 83. May not look exactly factory but it does push a bit
more air
Just got the word from the shop. Low side suction hose is pretty much shot,
and the evaporator is leaking.
Bummer.
Now the decision is to whether or not to try and use some leak sealer stuff and
hope for the best or tear the thing apart and replace the evaporator.
Dang it.
What does the shop say about the leak seal stuff?
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Also remember that if the evaporator leak is small, you can probably drive
for years by simply topping up the charge each spring. Don't forget to
also add an ounce or two of oil occasionally, as some of that leaks out
with the refrigerant.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was working
fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most (not all) of the refrigerant over
the last week. I have to suspect that's the evaporator leak, as the hose
wouldn't suddenly start leaking - they said it was just
Trust me it is not the way to go unless you are dumping the car
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On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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They didn't say how bad the evaporator leak is, however, the system was
working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost
Yeah, I would tend to agree, so now I need to really assess how much longer I
want to keep it and whether or not it's worth repairing. Doesn't make a lot of
sense to put $3400 into a $3000 car. I see that evaporators are relatively
cheap, but I'm really concerned about doing the job and the
I have been following the event in St Louis. It is not totally without
precedent, however. The World Champion used to sit out the 'playoffs', so to
speak, and just take on the winner as the Challenger.
In 1970, Fischer dominated his contemporaries[6] by winning the 1970
Interzonal
Evaporator replacement: It's just time and patience. Two people on this
list who I'll bet have more physical limitations than you have done the job.
I'm going to be tackling that job next year or the next, just need to make
the time...
Replace the hose, have them evaluate the size of the leak
The evap on my 97 e300 is leaking. It has been sitting for a year till I get
time to pull the dash and replace it. It is a keeper so I am not going the stop
leak route
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On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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Evaporator
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I have been following the event in St Louis. It is not totally without
precedent, however. The World Champion used to sit out the 'playoffs', so
to speak, and just take on the winner as the Challenger.
In 1970, Fischer dominated his contemporaries[6] by winning the
My fault. I didn't see them in the bit bucket.
Needless to say i've been a little preoccupied with the panic over evaporator
replacement in the S500.
Dan
On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:08:16 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
Not to scare you but it is a massive job on a 140. I have never done it but
have seen a few in the process.
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On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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My fault. I didn't see them in the bit bucket.
Needless to say i've been
Some guy in AussieLand did a video of it. 80 minutes on YouTube of eight 10
minute videos. It doesn't really look that bad so far, just time consuming.
I'm up to the dash removal part right now.
Dan
On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
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ATTABOY!
Wilton
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From: MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:17 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New fan in 83 300TD
did a bit of work this morning. About 3 hours to put an electric fan from
an 87 TD into my 83. May
'Understand this is a 140? Yep, real bummer.
Wilton
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [MBZ] AC Bummer
Just got the word from the shop.
Is it 'bout like evapectomy on a 124? 'Time to bite the bullet. You'll
feel a lot better 'bout all of it after it's done properly.
Wilton
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At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a
vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point.
Dan
On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Evaporator replacement: It's just time and
I would think you would need a sufficient amount of lubricity and solvent to
clear the gunk from the system. Same sort of carbon cleaning, snot plugging
nozzles, bugs growing in the tank, glaze build up. The IP may be lubed by oil,
but does mix with fuel. Wonder what that gums up.
I also
'Good move.
Wilt
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At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will
hold a
BTW, re. cost: Parts, incl. evaporator, exp. valve, hoses, dryer and 7 ( I
think) actuators for my 124 cost about $600.
Wilton
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Sent: Wednesday,
OK I realize that asking for opinions from y'all is like throwing a
steak to a pack of hungry dogs, but I'll do it anyway.
I am trying to get out ahead of a likely need here in the next few
months for a newer car of some sort, which I would think should be a
Benz diesel. Could be a lease or
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:04:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Some guy in AussieLand did a video of it. 80 minutes on YouTube of
eight 10 minute videos. It doesn't really look that bad so far, just
time consuming. I'm up to the dash removal part right now.
Go for
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:51:11 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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My fault. I didn't see them in the bit bucket.
You're forgiven.
Needless to say i've been a little preoccupied with the panic over
evaporator replacement in the S500.
That's understandable!
Craig
What's your budget for the vehicle?
MLs don't seem to hold their value that well, at least not around here. I
haven't investigated exactly why, but I know the early models were troublesome.
Not sure about the later ones.
As for lease versus purchase, if you're going to be piling the miles
Clay, I'm in agreement with your economic analysis. My labor/time has a
cost, and even if the VO is free, I come out way ahead buying #2 at the
pump. A tank of fuel costs less than two hours of labor for me, no way I
can collect, process waste oil in less than two hours per tank.
Max Dillon,
I did about half of this job troubleshooting my 126 HVAC issues, which I
eventually solved with string and shoe goo. Mu main lessons-learned are
(1) devise a system to identify and store the many different kinds of clips
and fasteners and (2) take a lot of cell phone or digital photos along the
when I had my evaporator leak I was told the leak sealer stuff usually
worked if the leak only needed refilling at the most_once _a year - any
quicker and the leak was likely too large to fix with the sealer stuff.
Don't be overwhelmed at the prospect of replacing the evap - it's
just a
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Stick with the sedan, far better mileage and reliability.
Records, records, and more records, and a PPI by Hans at German Auto or the
other guy at Star Motors.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will
you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar,
not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to
sell/trade cars rather than drive them.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Dan
The choice between an E and a ML should be based on mission - will you need
to ford streams or deep snow? If not, the E is probably the better choice.
My 2001 ML was suspended like a truck (which is what it really was) - an e
will be more pleasant in general driving.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:01
On 24/09/2014 4:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
So you end up with $6400 in a car you could sell for $3000. How much will
you drive it after you fix it? The real calculation is miles per dollar,
not how many dollars in a car worth X dollars, unless you are trying to
sell/trade cars rather than
You could just move up to the 124 series, they are newer than your
current fleet of Benz...
Find a really nice low mile example, 2.5 turbo or E300 like mine, pay 5 or
6 grand.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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WILTON wrote:
ATTABOY!
Wilton
Thank's Wilton.
BTW just got back from the junk yard. Got 2 of the LCD outside
temp gauges and senders. One will go into the TD and the other
into my daughter's 81 SD. Also two rear window winder units that
will be converted to use in the 83 TD. No more bent
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
At this point I think I may replace the hose then see how well it will hold a
vacuum at that point. I can better gauge the size of the leak at that point.
You might want to have a micron gauge like they use in HVAC work.
Mitch.
Dan,
Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the
dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you
have a problem you'll have access to the dash. I can't believe any engineer
would require you to remove a dash to work on
This would be for Mama, and would be driving up around Greenville quite
a bit. Not sure I need a remote fixer-upper (like mine)!
--R
On 9/24/14 5:45 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
You could just move up to the 124 series, they are newer than your
current fleet of Benz...
Find a
Sawzall, angle grinder, welder. What other tools are needed?
--R
On 9/24/14 6:21 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:
Dan,
Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then cut an access hole in the
dash, replace the evap, then hinge the piece you cut out and the next time you
have a
Yep. Double one if it, as you said, --looks neat.
Wilton
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
Dan,
Try the stop leak. If that doesn't work, then
'Reminds me: In May of '75, I had a '74 Plymouth van without A/C. 'Had
local dealer order factory A/C unit for me. I cut big, rectangular hole on
dash with hack saw; installed evaporator in the hole and enclosed it in
factory provided black, molded plastic cover with appropriate holes for
Dan wrote:
...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost most ... of
the refrigerant over the last week.
Murderer!!
We don't like murderers here!!
Take it to banned!!
...what with climate change every other day, etc...
...and climate change at United Nations...
You are
I love the Marshall Booth interview part of the movie, really miss that guy.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 23, 2014 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Meh, Andy Kaufmann said those guys are fakes.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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This morning I put the alternator back together, taking care to clean all
the contacts and ground points. O'Reilley's tested it twice, passed both
times.
My theory (or maybe wishful thinking) is that the voltage regulator
connections were bad. I'm going to install and keep a watchful eye on it
andy said no such thing!
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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Meh, Andy Kaufmann said those guys are fakes.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 23, 2014 2:22 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Bad contact with the slip rings will indeed result in no significant
output and no lamp on the dash, since there is no current flowing in
either direction.
Hope it works for you, I suspect mine is bad diodes. Will have to
take the car down to a FLAPS and have them check it out.
Peter
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:43:28 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Dan wrote:
...the system was working fine a couple of weeks ago and it lost
most ... of the refrigerant over the last week.
Murderer!!
We don't like murderers here!!
Take it to banned!!
...what
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