Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
I blow my nose in your general direction! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:41:17 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread MG via Mercedes
Max, The fader on my 123 just plugs into the wiring right under it. Makes it easy to replace and to run new wires from the radio to that plug. No need to look for any other plug in point. Manfred Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:21:35 -0400 From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com The easiest of all

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Hi Meade, You can easily bypass the fader switch... In earlier cars (which I'm familiar with) the fader switch wiring harness has connections to the rear speakers in the center console. If you work with the wire, you can stretch them up to the radio. No need to run new wires to the rear. I run

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Your mothers were hamsters and your fathers smelled of elderberries! --R On 6/19/15 12:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I though Welsh... On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: me too, I guess - Norwegian, English, German,

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You guys need to check your quotes: Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!” I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English K-nig-hts. Dan Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.

Re: [MBZ] Service Manual CDs?

2015-06-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
For those seeking 123/123/126/201/107 MBZ service manuals, check out the links at this site: http://sections.mbca.org/cw/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=14 :links-to-offical-mb-manuals-online-catid=1:welcome That page says: These links were provided by Jim Norris. They are the

Re: [MBZ] Service Manual CDs?

2015-06-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Supplemental: The final link (master list of online manuals) will not work unless you first go to http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/ and then click the MB Workshop Resources link (which takes you to the same place). It's some kind of Java thing. -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Dan. The,anodized aluminum on the window trim on my 300CD is not pretty. Sticks out so much on the coupe. On Jun 19, 2015 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bergsma is an idiot in a lot of instances, in my opinion. The absolute best thing I found back in my

Re: [MBZ] Service Manual CDs?

2015-06-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:59:51 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Supplemental: The final link (master list of online manuals) will not work unless you first go to http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/ I went to the URL above, but the last link give me an error:

Re: [MBZ] M119 oilers

2015-06-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:04:52 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 11 were real jerks about it and made it as difficult as possible. GoDaddy was pretty good about getting on their case and shaking things loose when 11 was stalling. When I switched email from 11, the folks

Re: [MBZ] Add: Airbus Electric Plane

2015-06-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:15:31 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The key point that I am trying to drive home is the limit on the amount of solar power available. This is a hard limit: ~1000 watts/square meter is the peak under ideal conditions. A more usable number

Re: [MBZ] This guy is on a bad acid trip

2015-06-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
+5 points for at least stating the AC does NOT blow ice cold.. On the other hand.. I can buy same year and model.. 28,000 more miles.. $1,400 here.. interior is just as nice... tires maybe as nice.. etc etc.. Shall I buy that one and sell it in OK? On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I will give 502. On Jun 19, 2015 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'll give $501. ;) -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Saturday, June 20,

[MBZ] This guy is on a bad acid trip

2015-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on a bad acid trip

2015-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I appreciate the honesty, which is as fulsome as his stupidity. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: +5 points for at least stating the AC does NOT blow ice cold.. On the other hand.. I can buy same year and model.. 28,000 more miles.. $1,400

Re: [MBZ] M119 oilers

2015-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Damn my webmail client. I hit reply all to one of Dan's forum posts, DELETED the mercedes list from the recipient list, and it sent a personal message intended for Dan to the list anyway. Which reminds me, my prepaid year of discounted 1and1 service is up in a couple of weeks. Any suggestions

Re: [MBZ] M119 oilers

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I dumped 11 a year ago for GoDaddy. I've been pleased, although I don't care for their (POP) email, as you have to go and clean it out regularly or your mail bounces when it gets full. That's the only complaint I have. They were very helpful in transferring my domains. 11 were real jerks about

Re: [MBZ] M119 oilers

2015-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I use iPower, no issues --R On 6/19/15 9:04 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I dumped 11 a year ago for GoDaddy. I've been pleased, although I don't care for their (POP) email, as you have to go and clean it out regularly or your mail bounces when it gets full. That's the only complaint

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I think those fader swithces are just variable resistors/potentiometer things. put a meter on it and see what it does. Newer head units (I don't mean Beckers -- no idea what they have -- but any other thing you buy) have the fader built in so you can just bypass it and use the native

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
If you leave the fader connected for the rears, a rear-seat passenger can lean forward and turn down his own volume when you're making it too loud in back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Rich. I think the easy route will be to bypass the fader, I'd like to figure out how to do that without cutting off the fader connector so that it can be restored to stock in the future. I'm not having much luck finding a DIY on the intertubes for which pins to jumper (or run new wires

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You could just clip a jumper across the terminals for each side and turn the fader off -- that will create the easy path for the electrons to flow. Won't bugger the switch. --R On 6/19/15 9:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Thanks Rich. I think the easy route will be to bypass the

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You do need an intervention - only ONE 123 300TD wagon?? Andrew - intervention unnecessary 1983 300TD 1985 300TD On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dwight.Not sold yet.I'm now up to 5 Benz. (arrgh).2x 1987 190DT, 2x 1987300TD, 1x 1985 300TD,

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, Thanks for that info on the CD changer port. I've got a couple of old CD changers, not sure if either works, maybe I can enlist Rich to figure out what the CD changer is saying to the radio to make the CD input active. I have seen a couple of hacks to solder the aux cables to the cassette

[MBZ] M119 oilers

2015-06-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Well, they finally track as 'out for delivery'. Thanks again. If you need anything, like a W140 door check or a M119 thermostat/housing, let me know. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Max, In researching possible mods to the 1492s in my W140 chassis cars, I looked at the CD changer inputs and determined that they cannot be used for auxiliary inputs. This is due to the need for a signal to be coming back from the changer for the changer input to be active. It’s not

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The issue is that the fader gets two-channel input (only two wires), and outputs four-channels (only four wires). The _ground_ or _negative_ signal to the speakers doesn't go through the fader, it goes from the radio through connector X48H and X48G, which are not listed in the FSM index of

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
maybe you too are transGerman? RB On 18/06/2015 10:44 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Dwight.Not sold yet.I'm now up to 5 Benz. (arrgh).2x 1987 190DT, 2x 1987300TD, 1x 1985 300TD, plus a 2004 VW Jetta and and Joanne's 2001 Volvo V40.I think that I may need an intervention.Time for

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Be careful saying that to an Englishman. LOL. On Jun 19, 2015 11:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: maybe you too are transGerman? RB On 18/06/2015 10:44 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Dwight.Not sold yet.I'm now up to 5 Benz. (arrgh).2x 1987 190DT, 2x

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Probably easier to just snake new wires back to the speakers and then connect directly to the head unit or the connector or whatever you can get to --R On 6/19/15 10:33 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The issue is that the fader gets two-channel input (only two wires), and outputs

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
me too, I guess - Norwegian, English, German, Dutch, and Scottish and Irish mixture from what I know about grandparents and great grandparents plus a fellow from Australia who shares our name told us that his geneological research took the name back to Hugonots (SP?) who left France for England

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I though Welsh... On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: me too, I guess - Norwegian, English, German, Dutch, and Scottish and Irish mixture from what I know about grandparents and great grandparents plus a fellow from Australia who shares

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
RB.Not trans-german but some german heritage. Plus, I am, after all, an Anglo-Saxon/ Norse/Scot/Pict/Ancien-Anglais/ Norman French... mongrel. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:22:04 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik From:

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Mine! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:30:47 + From: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: benzomatik

Re: [MBZ] FW: benzomatik

2015-06-19 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Huh? That, with all the Mercedes in your driveway make you a transDeutscheser fer sure! RB.Not trans-german but some german heritage. Plus, I am, after all, an Anglo-Saxon/ Norse/Scot/Pict/Ancien-Anglais/ Norman French... mongrel. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 19

[MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Darren Marshall via Mercedes
Anyone successfully deal with this before without replacing? Chrome trim on my 240d needs some love. In other news I may have to sell it :( new baby on the way :) Darren -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
What chrome trim? Most of the trim is anodized aluminum. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone successfully deal with this before without replacing? Chrome trim on my 240d needs some love. In other news I

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Anodized aluminum is a bitch to beautify. Kent Bergsma has a series of videos on the matter. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What chrome trim? Most of the trim is anodized aluminum. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The easiest of all will be finding the rear speaker wire connections, hopefully in the center console and accessible without too much trouble. If I can find those, then I can connect the radio directly to the speakers, bypassing the fader. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No, it's not, as long as you fabricate the tool. I made mine out of a piece of scrap oak and it worked just fine. A bit frightening when brandishing a big hammer with a piece of oak right next to a freshly painted finish. That being said there are those out there who might not be inclined to

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Actually now that you mention it I think it was the '78 240D I ran new wires on, on the '84 I think I spliced into the wires that were already there leaving it so it'd be easy to reconfigure to factory if somebody wanted to. -Curt From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
$500. Send title. Dan channeling Kleb and DBT Sent from my iPad On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'll get more pics together, body is in great condition, very very little rust, nothing on the underside or wheel wells, I think it may

[MBZ] Service Manual CDs?

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I found a bunch of service manual CDs the other day. W123, W126, and parts of the classics manuals covering W110/111/112, too. Anyone interested in these? They'll probably have the problematic Adobe legacy issues this stuff encounters on later Windoze systems Dan Sent from my iPad

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'll give $501. ;) -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim $500. Send title. Dan channeling Kleb

Re: [MBZ] Service Manual CDs?

2015-06-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'd like all but the 123 CD's (I have those). -Max - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I found a bunch of service manual CDs the other day. W123, W126, and parts of the classics manuals covering W110/111/112,

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is it nice? How cheap are you letting it go? My 190D has about had it, the tin worm will not be denied any longer. I'm considering a new W123 if I could find one cheap. -Curt From: Darren Marshall via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc:

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Auto or manual? I paid $1500 for my last 240D, $400 for the one before that and $1500 for the one before that. I'll give you $1500 if you deliver ;) Seriously it sounds like at least a $2500 car to me, probably more. $1500 doesn't buy you much car anymore... -Curt From: Darren Marshall

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Bergsma is an idiot in a lot of instances, in my opinion. The absolute best thing I found back in my W123/126 days was to use a cloth wheel and rouge to polish the crap out of it, removing most of the haze, and then use a wipe on clear coat whose name escapes me, although I'm sure I could find

Re: [MBZ] Jaime I need help! '87 wagon radio replacement

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is how every MB I've owned other than my '81 300TD with the factory Becker has worked. The '84 190D I ran the wires myself... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, June

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sheesh Dan the rain gutter stuff ain't nothin to apply, you gotta make a tool though. I took a small dowel and cut a groove in it that would force the trim on and pinch it slightly. Then you take all dang day slowly wedging the whole length of the trim on... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Fixing oxidized chrome trim

2015-06-19 Thread Darren Marshall via Mercedes
I'll get more pics together, body is in great condition, very very little rust, nothing on the underside or wheel wells, I think it may have been resprayed in the 80s, clearcoat seems to have disappeared on one of the doors, but with a good wax you can't tell ;) -- I think the color is Calendonia