[MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Does anyone know if our cars, in my case the M119 engine, will run without the MAF? Granted, I would expect it to run poorly, but I was wondering as I continue to part out the S500. FWIW, I've sold almost $1000 worth of parts and have maybe $500 more currently on eBay. And that doesn't

Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. food processor?

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Observe what it does to your waistline as well. ;) On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My buddy finished his baking courses at the local CC and is now into the ice cream phase. He brought me a sample of his recent homework, it is like a big

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Mass airflow sensor. The resistive element (PTC) just below the air cleaner that reports on the volume of air entering the engine. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: MAF? Modified anemometer fluid? On Mon,

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper permit from the Sheriff these days. I have an old one sitting around somewhere too. --R On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the proceeds.

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
MAF? Modified anemometer fluid? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does anyone know if our cars, in my case the M119 engine, will run without the MAF? Granted, I would expect it to run poorly, but I was wondering as I continue to part

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the proceeds. This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123? Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Our '96 Infiniti ran with the MAF disconnected, so probably. Computer no longer has air flow info so it uses a default map to determine fuel injection amount based on RPM and maybe other data. Mass Air Flow? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's what I was thinking, that it would fall back to a predetermined setting and just run poorly. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Our '96 Infiniti ran with the MAF disconnected, so probably. Computer no longer

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Good. Easier to track a thief. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less Down here they take

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Beats me. All I know is that almost immediately after I posted on the local CL that the car was being parted I started getting offers for the cats for like $60. The activity made me realize they must be a hot commodity, so I checked with some local scrap metal people. Mine are considered

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I've got the permit, but when I asked last summer, was told they are illegal to buy or sell in this state. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 10, 2015 1:23:31 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
$2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium What's that about? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The 1% who have high-end cars that burn premium should pay more? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: $2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium What's that about? --R

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I was kidding. Don't want to hurt their feelings. They are already the most persecuted group in America. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 1% who have high-end cars that burn premium should pay more? - Max Charleston

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti. Superior in every way. Just ordered a set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 for the front set with free shipping on Amazon. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 10, 2015 1:21:11 PM EDT, Jon Agne via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they are.Other than a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific about them. They stopped good but they didn't seem to last any better than anything else.

[MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is one of those why didn't I think of it innovations. You can invest when they open the Kickstarter campaign. http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_techwpmm=1

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Luxury tax. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: $2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium What's that about? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Apparently it still is to some extent. I'd expect it probably in the cheapest pads. I'm surprised it hasn't been banned... IIRC I've seen the boxes pads come in marked asbestos free. -Curt From: Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Are the organic pads still using asbestos?! Sent from my iPhone Not for 30-40 years. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I filled up for 2.38 this afternoon, about 40 miles south. Correction: $2.35 -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they are.Other than a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific about them. They stopped good but they didn't seem to last any better than anything

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Are the organic pads still using asbestos?! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Correction: $2.35 -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I saw diesel for $1.35 in North Chuck. Right off 526 on Rivers. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Correction, the squealing pads were conventional Car Quest red which were supposed to be their better pads...I didn't notice any lower rotor life using ceramic, here the rotors lots of times rot out from rust put there with road salt... -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To:

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate rough surfaces. Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think the ceramic pads come already set by a baking process, read that over the weekend on one of the makers websites. Not sure if Akebono are same, I don't remember any special process when I installed them a few years ago. Just paid $45, I think OE from MB run about $70 or more. -- Max

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan DO NOT DRINK THE WATER

2015-08-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On the same site as the car in a bag. http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/energy-environment/epa-3-million-gallons-of-waste-water-spilled-in-colo-river/2015/08/10/e138076a-3f71-11e5-b2c4-af4c6183b8b4_video.html RB On 10/08/2015 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: This is

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
And deep snow. RB On 10/08/2015 4:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate rough surfaces. Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
All these caveats as to why this or that won't work. Take OKDon perspective mentioned in the thread about airplane car. Not all things are for all uses. It might be nice to have a single-purpose car instead of an all-purpose car. We are a wealthy lot, we can afford multiple vehicles. mao

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Here we have two grocer chains, one (Bi-Lo) does the points similar what you describe, another (Harris Teeter) sells gas station gift cards at 20% off, one fifty dollar card for every fifty dollars in groceries. Shell stations accept both the discount points card from the first chain and the

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yep, Akebono on two sedans and a TD. Love them! Manfred Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:21:11 -0400 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123? Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:23:56 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Correction: $2.35 We have a local supermarket here, Smith's, part of Kroger, that gives you fuel points when you buy things, extra points for prescriptions at their pharmacy, points when you bring your own

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I scrapped my old hvac heat pump a few weeks back, got about $100 for the whole deal. The compressor which weighed maybe 50 lb fetched the best after the copper coils. Cash for a bunch of iron etc (including old Benz rotors) but a check for the copper etc. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug

Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It is not the pads that need the breakin. It is the rotors. proper breakin coats the rotors evenly with the pad material which bonds to the rotor. hink the ceramic pads come already set by a baking process, read that over the weekend on one of the makers websites. Not sure if Akebono are

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Arizona. Also lost about $500,000 in shop tools in the event... so it stings. Major reward posted.. perhaps they will be caught... likely it all went to Mexico. Good thing there are no criminals sneaking across the border. Only people who sing we are the world and kum by ya.

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Not in SC, there is no luxury. I noticed one dizzel station that was $2.57 too, did not look at other places. --R On 8/10/15 4:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Luxury tax. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On August 10, 2015 at 4:22 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_techwpmm=1 6mph is slow, but a two

Re: [MBZ] Car in a bag - from Japan

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And 12KM would take me all the way downtown. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On August 10, 2015 at 4:22 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I was surprised at the prices for catalytic converters, as I know that platinum is way down these days. Dan On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Scrap prices are at an all time low right now, so many recyclers are warehousing scrap, hoping for

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
About 2005, when scrap prices were really high, there were a number of folks here who would slide under cars in parking lots [ie WalMart] and use battery sawzalls to cut cats out of as many cars as they could, then run them to the scrap buyers to support their drug habit. This happened so much

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D and I forgot to take the title. Your car? the guy asked. Yup I replied. No problem he sez. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Here I pull up, they pull car off trailer with big fork lift, weigh the car, and the guy pulls a huge roll of $100 bills out of his pocket and peels me off a few. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 2 years ago, I had 5 cars

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Wow. Where was that? Storage places here are hard to get into. That's a real loss. On Aug 10, 2015 9:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
A couple weeks ago I dropped some cans at a recycler close to my work, and their signs say they can only take home/office HVAC stuff if you bring in a receipt for the purchase of the new equipment that replaced the old. Sounded kind of desperate to me. I'll bet I can gin up a pretty good looking

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Arizona. Also lost about $500,000 in shop tools in the event... so it stings. Major reward posted.. perhaps they will be caught... likely it all went to Mexico. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow. Where was that? Storage places here are

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
In theory only. In reality, the data is rarely collected for true hot stuff, like stolen AC condenser. A couple years back a BBQ cooker was stolen from out church. These cost about $5K; they are basically a big stainless steel grill with electric heaters which hold 2-3 whole pigs. This item was

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap, based on other things that were stolen in the robbery.. To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no junkyard that will own up to

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They’re pretty retentive about selling scrap metals down here, although I can’t vouch for how successful that is. The issue for years were people stealing AC condensers, as they would just go up to them, take some insulated cutters and just sever the power and refrigerant lines and toss them

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Scrap prices are at an all time low right now, so many recyclers are warehousing scrap, hoping for increase. I just sold 4 tons of aluminum 3 weeks ago.. wished I had waited.. but needed the material moved out. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11 cents over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon. Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average sits 81 cents below the year-ago price. The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was

Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. food processor?

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yes to what AS said. Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream. --R On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto. Made blueberry ice cream from almond milk, frozen blues, sugar, vanilla, and ice cubes. Took less than a minute

Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. food processor?

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Coconut milk would be quite rich. I was thinking regular milk, perhaps with some half and half thrown in. I also probably overblended - went past the point when the mixture gelled to a solid, causing it to then relapse to a smoothie/slushie texture. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Check out the price of propane and give us a debriefing. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to the

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to the pipeline or something. Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck... --R 2.57 Benzin 2.54 Diesel here. Still waiting for these

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to the pipeline or something. Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck... --R On 8/10/15 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

2015-08-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I get my small tanks refilled at Tractor Supply, which I have not had to do for awhile, and my big tank for the cooktop comes from the local supplier. who provides equal measure of customer abuse in the process, for free. I saw in the Costco magazine that they are starting to put dizzel pumps