Re: [MBZ] CC: tom Hanson

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does anyone have an email address for Tom at the classic center? If so, > please send it off list. Thanks > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com >

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would agree on your observations from a functional standpoint, no politics or personalities involved. I would say that in my experience with various factions in our government that I found the State Department often played loose and fast with little regard for the "rules", if there were any.

Re: [MBZ] Rich

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Erika's remnants are active in the area now, thunderstorms all night with lots of rain, raining now and to continue for next coupla days. 7+ft high tides (full moon and onshore winds) are making for lots of flooding. But no hurricane winds, so that is something. --R Ach! Ist Nicht!The

Re: [MBZ] Lifetime warranty, was Rebuilding Floor Jack

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I still have my pennys lifetime battery. It has been dead for 20 years. where do i take it for replacement? Still have the car it was bought for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to

Re: [MBZ] Lifetime warranty, was Rebuilding Floor Jack

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I actually just saw something this morning (can't remember where now) that says they are still honoring their warranty, there are maybe 300 people in the whole country who are still using it. I'd go to a store or call their corporate and ask. --R On 8/31/15 11:30 AM, Curly McLain via

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The key issue is that the various organs of Justice are dragging their feet and stonewalling actually prosecuting these clear violations of the law, in whatever degree. It is seeming too that these willful violations could have (quite possibly did) led to the death of the Ambassador to Libya

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Her actions, by direct and indirect admission, violate secret and above security clearance regulations. She seems to fail to believe she will be held accountable at this time. That belief does not relieve her of being held responsible, it only momentarily delays her ultimate punishment, what ever

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Are those the SEL-type wheels? I have a set of those too that came with one of the SDs, one pair has a good set of snow tars mounted. Note they require longer bolts than do the bundts. Polished and shiny look kinda pimp if that is the look you are going for. Yo G! --R On 8/31/15 12:31

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You are correct. A leaky flex hose is the culprit. Part's on order from the dealership. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sounds like SLS fluid to me, as Curt pointed out the differential fluid > will reek of sulfur. > > If you start the

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The tech says it's a leaky SLS flex hose, between the rear strut and nitrogen accumulator (air cell). This is better than replacing the rear diff. :) Since the fluid is supposed to be clear but is black, does this also mean my air cells are compromised and should be replaced again with new

Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The wheelbase is longer but why would the trunk lid be different? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > However, I think most body parts are different between SL and SLC? SLC is > longer, and I'm pretty sure the trunk lid is unique, so rear

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would do a flush and fill of your SLS system if the fluid is black. That's a good indication that it hasn't been changed in some time. Simple to do and will cost under $30, if that. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

2015-08-31 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes.. the wheels are from an 87/88 SEL era Mercedes. I'm not in love with the polished "bling bling" look, but I did want to migrate to 15 inch tires. Selection of 14" tires is getting near impossible to get, but I want to preserve the "Mercedes look" . I'm actually thinking of bead blasting the

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

2015-08-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
15" wheels make all the difference in the world as far as ride and handling. My LWB W123 had 15" wheels, and it drove very differently than a W123 with 14" wheels. Too bad you don't have a set of 15" bundts. Those things are darned near unobtanium these days. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs NOW RIMS

2015-08-31 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, 15" Bundt wheels would be "restoration correct look" for the Coupe. However, after 3 months of search.. have not turned up even one, much less a set of 5 [need a matching spare, you know]. So they are as declared " Unobtanium" .. unless I wish to buy new, at quoted price of $389.00 each,

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Andrew: David wrote that black fluid can mean the SLS pump seals are leaking engine oil into the SLS system. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

[MBZ] Move over Poos, a new Martha emerges

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://drive.jalopnik.com/watch-a-cherished-ferrari-f40-get-the-ultimate-detailin-1680926629 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My tech thinks the air cells have gone bad but they are less than 5 years old... On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew: David wrote that black fluid can mean the SLS pump seals are > leaking engine oil into the SLS system. > -- > Max

Re: [MBZ] Rich

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are the remnants of Erika heading up the coast? We could sure use a soaking, of the liquid variety that is. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Erika's remnants are active in the area now, thunderstorms all night with >> lots of rain,

Re: [MBZ] Move over Poos, a new Martha emerges

2015-08-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Kevin Brown is considered a detailing God. There are techniques used in detailing that are referred to as "Kevin Brown" techniques. Super sharp guy who can recover a finish that we would all consider toast. Dan "I'm not worthy" Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Rich Thomas via

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
My '85 123 TD has black SLS oil, the seals in the engine driven pump have failed.New, from J/Y, pump with new seals will go in next and I hope that the engine oil has not rotted the spheres diaphragms. YMMV Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:11:03 -0400 > To:

Re: [MBZ] Rich

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Our forecast is for dry weather to continue. Hope they're wrong. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Looks like > > --R > > > > On 8/31/15 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Are the remnants of Erika heading up the coast?

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You replaced the pump for how many $$s? Who is "J/Y? On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My '85 123 TD has black SLS oil, the seals in the engine driven pump have > failed.New, from J/Y, pump with new seals will go in next and I hope that >

[MBZ] Wheels Wuz: OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'd say keep em both! You may want a set of road tars and a set of track tars, or as you said, you could change em as you see fit. Or Mountain(Schnee) tars and desert (200ºF) tars? Please send my bumper snicker at your convenience! I am waiting Her actions, by direct and indirect

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The tech says it's a leaky SLS flex hose, between the rear strut and nitrogen accumulator (air cell). This is better than replacing the rear diff. :) Since the fluid is supposed to be clear but is black, does this also mean my air cells are compromised and should be replaced again with new

Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe

2015-08-31 Thread clay via Mercedes
Front end of the car is the same, rear is not usable much for body parts. Interior is sort of swappable. Seats work if you can hook up the vac lines. Doors are almost the same. Door cards work for both. Rear suspension is not the same. The idea is to have a screw around car that I do not

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Don't bother Max, Andrew doesn't actually read any messages... -Curt From: Max Dillon via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Max Dillon Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is a chicken and egg kind of thing. Did the SLS pump fail, sending oil through the system that damaged the spheres? If so, did this the flex hose to rupture? On the other hand, if the spheres were already defective, could this somehow have led to contamination of the SLS fluid, turning it

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't see how the spheres could turn the oil black while I do see how the engine oil could. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:33 PM

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I like that answer. Sort of mimics my own line of thinking. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't see how the spheres could turn the oil black while I do see how > the engine oil could. > > -Curt > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
The polished ones look "pimpy." Wilton - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So? they can always be painted as original, or painted with paint that is "close enough" to original, depending on Grant's taste and cash roll. I choose the "close enough" route, none of my cars are for show. It sounds like Grant's job may warrant use of OE paint. The polished ones look

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Just like old brake hoses, the hydraulic flex hoses don't last forever. If anything they don't last as long because it's a mineral fluid, but they're not as much of a life safety system. And if you load the car heavily, of course that puts more stress on the hoses. Fluid could get murky from a

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
My thought also Wilton. I got them as part of a "package buy" and sort of thought about using them.. but it's to much "bling" for the car. They ruin the stately elegance of the Coupe for me. So.. I'll sell the polished set, or bead blast them to take the shine off and powder coat them to proper

[MBZ] CC: tom Hanson

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Does anyone have an email address for Tom at the classic center? If so, please send it off list. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
GMann Sez: Of all the Mercedes wheels, I find the 15 slot design most pleasing. I like the steel wheels (or better yet, the light alloy wheels like my 240D came with) and the hubcaps. It can be a pain to find a replacement hubcap or repaint the centers, but they are very attractive on 123

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I don't see how the spheres could turn the oil black while I do see how the engine oil could. Non-diesels don't usually get black oil. But I've seen black SLS on those. The rubber diaphragms in the spheres can decompose, as can the rubber strut hoses. The rest of the system is 'hard'. --

Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe

2015-08-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The wheelbase is longer but why would the trunk lid be different? Because the trunk is bigger. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Eenie, Meenie, Mynee, Moe

2015-08-31 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
However, I think most body parts are different between SL and SLC? SLC is longer, and I'm pretty sure the trunk lid is unique, so rear fenders probably also out. Doors may be longer as well? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 30, 2015 10:58:35 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Lifetime warranty, was Rebuilding Floor Jack

2015-08-31 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
There were some court cases 30-40 years ago on lifetime warranties. Basically the courts interpreted it as the life cycle of the warranted merchandise, for example I think they came up with 7 years for a refrigerator, making a ten year warranty more valuable than a lifetime warranty. OTOH, last

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds like SLS fluid to me, as Curt pointed out the differential fluid will reek of sulfur. If you start the car and the drip / leak resumes, probably SLS. Other possibilities: brake fluid (bitter taste), fuel (should smell like diesel). While the car is loaded with mulch, the SLS fluid

[MBZ] crockauto 240D/123 closeouts

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
See: feed://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1192980=wc=en This is the closeout page for my 81 240D. Headlight bubs for under $4, front disc brake pads for $5, Belts for $1.56 etc. Spin in fuel filter under $4. Good stuff. many of these fit many years and several types.

Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of mystery oil in W123 300TD wagon

2015-08-31 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Jim said: But I've seen black SLS on those. The rubber diaphragms in the spheres can decompose, as can the rubber strut hoses. ... This agrees with my experience (79 TD). After I replaced the old black SLS oil and bad spheres, the new oil remained clear for several years.

[MBZ] The search begins

2015-08-31 Thread clay via Mercedes
I finally found the w115 racer a new home. She will sacrifice her OM617 to a jeep, and probably be stripped and crushed. Sold it to a fellow out of left field who seemed like a flake CL response. Told me in email he was going to buy it and would i be home today. Yeah, sure, I will be

[MBZ] Schnee for Curt

2015-08-31 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Rich

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Erika's remnants are active in the area now, thunderstorms all night with lots of rain, raining now and to continue for next coupla days. 7+ft high tides (full moon and onshore winds) are making for lots of flooding. But no hurricane winds, so that is something. --R On 8/30/15 10:07 PM,

Re: [MBZ] OT politics: Republicans stealing Hillary signs

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My wife was asking about the classified email stuff over the weekend. I pointed out that when I had a security clearance (only SECRET not SI/TK) had I done anything remotely close to what she has done -- brought home classified info, emailed info, left info in an unsecured area, copied it to

Re: [MBZ] OT: C-47 glider towing

2015-08-31 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
There was a show on PBS last night about the Battle of the Bulge, was pretty good. Showed some old movies of gliders landing and crashing in France, trying to drop in more men and supplies. Those things were pretty much matchsticks with some fabric around them. Saw one that landed OK then