Re: [MBZ] Manual Swap into a Diesel W126

2022-01-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Make videos of the swap process for the utuber!  You’ll be famous!  Sounds like 
a great project, good luck with it. 

—FT

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 11:46 PM, Jack Crone via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some things I forgot to mention in my last email. Firstly, I believe the
> flywheel should bolt up although I will have to try that out after this
> icestorm blows over. No my car works and ironically I just swapped the
> trans but I don't want to have to deal with transmission problems ever
> again because my last one puked a quart of fluid every 150 miles or so
> because 3 of the bolts that held the pan on stripped. Secondly the
> transmission should bolt up to the om603 in the 300sdl, no this isn't a
> om617 w126 and yes I know the starter on an om617 is on the other side.
> Although I haven't done measurements yet on where the shifter will fall it
> appears just from looking at it that it might fall pretty close to where
> the automatic shifter would be in a stock configuration. Although I haven't
> checked if the tooth count I'd the same for both flywheels if I need to I
> can always go back for the starter on the c230 and just use that, hopefully
> it's adequate for the diesel but we'll see. To bypass the neutral safety
> switch I probably will just shift it so it thinks it is in neutral, and
> just leave it plugged in ziptied out of the way. Although I haven't figured
> out how I will wire up the reverse lights if need be i can wire up a switch
> to turn them on and off. Hopefully I remembered everything but I will add
> on if I forgot anything.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:34 PM Jack Crone  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi yall, I'm going to attempt to do a manual swap into my 87 300sdl
>> sometime in the future although I haven't decided when yet. Depends
>> entirely on when i finish my om617 swap into a 85 ram d100. Anyway so I
>> have pulled the flywheel, clutch, shifter assembly, front half of the
>> driveshaft, flex disc, and transmission from what is either an 01 or 04
>> C230 Kompressor with a stick. I believe the trans designation is 716.4xx
>> although I'm not 100 percent sure on this. Since I can't find a set of
>> pedals for a w126 and couldn't figure out how to pull the ones from the
>> c230, yes I know I can modify w123 pedals but those are hard to find too.
>> My buddy recommended using pedals from an e36 bmw 3 series so I'm going to
>> source a clutch pedal assembly from one and make the brake pedal work. The
>> transmission is within an inch in total length to the propshaft of the
>> 722.3 that came stock in the 300sdl so I don't believe I have to modify the
>> length of the driveshaft which is nice although I do have to convert the
>> prop on the driveshaft to the one from the c230 but that shouldn't be too
>> difficult to do. I was sending this out partially in case anyone else ever
>> wanted to do this and also because i would like any advice yall may have on
>> anything I maybe missing.
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More on the copart ML

2022-01-16 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-01-15 23:43, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Found this site that you can plug in vin and it will give you auction
history. Look how many times this has been up for auction and what the
bids where.


So, until you came along and helped out, it was worth $1000-1500?

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Re: [MBZ] Manual Swap into a Diesel W126

2022-01-15 Thread Jack Crone via Mercedes
Some things I forgot to mention in my last email. Firstly, I believe the
flywheel should bolt up although I will have to try that out after this
icestorm blows over. No my car works and ironically I just swapped the
trans but I don't want to have to deal with transmission problems ever
again because my last one puked a quart of fluid every 150 miles or so
because 3 of the bolts that held the pan on stripped. Secondly the
transmission should bolt up to the om603 in the 300sdl, no this isn't a
om617 w126 and yes I know the starter on an om617 is on the other side.
Although I haven't done measurements yet on where the shifter will fall it
appears just from looking at it that it might fall pretty close to where
the automatic shifter would be in a stock configuration. Although I haven't
checked if the tooth count I'd the same for both flywheels if I need to I
can always go back for the starter on the c230 and just use that, hopefully
it's adequate for the diesel but we'll see. To bypass the neutral safety
switch I probably will just shift it so it thinks it is in neutral, and
just leave it plugged in ziptied out of the way. Although I haven't figured
out how I will wire up the reverse lights if need be i can wire up a switch
to turn them on and off. Hopefully I remembered everything but I will add
on if I forgot anything.
Thanks,
Jack

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:34 PM Jack Crone  wrote:

> Hi yall, I'm going to attempt to do a manual swap into my 87 300sdl
> sometime in the future although I haven't decided when yet. Depends
> entirely on when i finish my om617 swap into a 85 ram d100. Anyway so I
> have pulled the flywheel, clutch, shifter assembly, front half of the
> driveshaft, flex disc, and transmission from what is either an 01 or 04
> C230 Kompressor with a stick. I believe the trans designation is 716.4xx
> although I'm not 100 percent sure on this. Since I can't find a set of
> pedals for a w126 and couldn't figure out how to pull the ones from the
> c230, yes I know I can modify w123 pedals but those are hard to find too.
> My buddy recommended using pedals from an e36 bmw 3 series so I'm going to
> source a clutch pedal assembly from one and make the brake pedal work. The
> transmission is within an inch in total length to the propshaft of the
> 722.3 that came stock in the 300sdl so I don't believe I have to modify the
> length of the driveshaft which is nice although I do have to convert the
> prop on the driveshaft to the one from the c230 but that shouldn't be too
> difficult to do. I was sending this out partially in case anyone else ever
> wanted to do this and also because i would like any advice yall may have on
> anything I maybe missing.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
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[MBZ] Manual Swap into a Diesel W126

2022-01-15 Thread Jack Crone via Mercedes
Hi yall, I'm going to attempt to do a manual swap into my 87 300sdl
sometime in the future although I haven't decided when yet. Depends
entirely on when i finish my om617 swap into a 85 ram d100. Anyway so I
have pulled the flywheel, clutch, shifter assembly, front half of the
driveshaft, flex disc, and transmission from what is either an 01 or 04
C230 Kompressor with a stick. I believe the trans designation is 716.4xx
although I'm not 100 percent sure on this. Since I can't find a set of
pedals for a w126 and couldn't figure out how to pull the ones from the
c230, yes I know I can modify w123 pedals but those are hard to find too.
My buddy recommended using pedals from an e36 bmw 3 series so I'm going to
source a clutch pedal assembly from one and make the brake pedal work. The
transmission is within an inch in total length to the propshaft of the
722.3 that came stock in the 300sdl so I don't believe I have to modify the
length of the driveshaft which is nice although I do have to convert the
prop on the driveshaft to the one from the c230 but that shouldn't be too
difficult to do. I was sending this out partially in case anyone else ever
wanted to do this and also because i would like any advice yall may have on
anything I maybe missing.
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: [MBZ] OT cub cadet tiller

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’ll give you a workout for sure. 

--FT
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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Fair deal. If you have clay it's less apt to beat the snot out of you than a 
> front tine tiller.
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 7:29 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Allan Streib
> Subject: [MBZ] OT cub cadet tiller
> 
> Thinking about putting in a garden this spring. Anyone think this is a good 
> deal?
> 
> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/grd/d/bloomington-cub-cadet-rt-75-tiller/7432273031.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT cub cadet tiller

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Fair deal. If you have clay it's less apt to beat the snot out of you than a 
front tine tiller.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2022 7:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: [MBZ] OT cub cadet tiller

Thinking about putting in a garden this spring. Anyone think this is a good 
deal?

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/grd/d/bloomington-cub-cadet-rt-75-tiller/7432273031.html
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[MBZ] OT cub cadet tiller

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Thinking about putting in a garden this spring. Anyone think this is a good 
deal?

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/grd/d/bloomington-cub-cadet-rt-75-tiller/7432273031.html
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have never had one or used one, but probably could have used one in 
the past.


On 1/15/2022 6:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, made the valve adjustment bent wrenches with a couple of cheap wrenches, I think 
they are "Companion" brand from the store formerly known as Sears. Cheap 
wrenches are thiner and easier to bend.

If you work on cars at all you need a blowtorch. Does not need to be the full 
oxy-acetylene rig, just a standard hardware store propane torch will be hot 
enough.



On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments and
sells a pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over them.
I’m like dude go to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep wrenches, heat
them with a torch and bend them and you’re good. And these fools are
like I don’t have a torch so this is a good deal. A torch is what, $20?
  You’re still ahead plus you learn something. Total idiots, they
deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they won’t listen to reality.

Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. Fnidiots.

We should start selling some shite to these fools.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron as 
their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of chatter for 
quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying to sell all of his 
junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or something.  This is also 
the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 because he wanted to learn out to 
take one apart.  WTF?


On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other options 
right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several products and 
services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot of options to be 
found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum lines. Submitted order , 
paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be rebuilt. Here it is middle of 
Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself on patience but I’ve about run 
out.  I would not recommend ordering from Spencer even if you don’t have many 
options. This has been a most frustrating experience.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

It is amazing the level of stupidity on that list.

On 1/15/2022 5:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Those stupid bent wrench sets are not really going to work properly. 
You don't get the 3rd holder wrench that keeps the valve from spinning.


On 1/15/2022 5:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments 
and sells a pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over 
them. I’m like dude go to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep 
wrenches, heat them with a torch and bend them and you’re good. And 
these fools are like I don’t have a torch so this is a good deal. A 
torch is what, $20?  You’re still ahead plus you learn something. 
Total idiots, they deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they won’t 
listen to reality.


Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. 
Fnidiots.


We should start selling some shite to these fools.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a 
moron as their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a 
lot of chatter for quite a while of similar things.  A while back he 
was trying to sell all of his junk parts that nobody wants because 
he was moving or something. This is also the kid that took apart a 
perfectly good 123 because he wanted to learn out to take one 
apart.  WTF?



On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many 
other options right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this 
forum several products and services. Some things that are needed 
and there are not a lot of options to be found. Specifically 
rebuilding of brake booster vacuum lines. Submitted order , paid 
and sent him my old line in early Nov to be rebuilt. Here it is 
middle of Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself on patience 
but I’ve about run out.  I would not recommend ordering from 
Spencer even if you don’t have many options. This has been a most 
frustrating experience.


--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yep, made the valve adjustment bent wrenches with a couple of cheap wrenches, I 
think they are "Companion" brand from the store formerly known as Sears. Cheap 
wrenches are thiner and easier to bend.

If you work on cars at all you need a blowtorch. Does not need to be the full 
oxy-acetylene rig, just a standard hardware store propane torch will be hot 
enough.



On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments and 
> sells a pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over them. 
> I’m like dude go to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep wrenches, heat 
> them with a torch and bend them and you’re good. And these fools are 
> like I don’t have a torch so this is a good deal. A torch is what, $20? 
>  You’re still ahead plus you learn something. Total idiots, they 
> deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they won’t listen to reality. 
>
> Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. Fnidiots. 
>
> We should start selling some shite to these fools. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron as 
>> their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of chatter 
>> for quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying to sell all 
>> of his junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or something.  
>> This is also the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 because he wanted 
>> to learn out to take one apart.  WTF?
>> 
>>> On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other 
>>> options right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several 
>>> products and services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot 
>>> of options to be found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum 
>>> lines. Submitted order , paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be 
>>> rebuilt. Here it is middle of Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself 
>>> on patience but I’ve about run out.  I would not recommend ordering from 
>>> Spencer even if you don’t have many options. This has been a most 
>>> frustrating experience.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Those stupid bent wrench sets are not really going to work properly.  
You don't get the 3rd holder wrench that keeps the valve from spinning.


On 1/15/2022 5:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments and sells a 
pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over them. I’m like dude go 
to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep wrenches, heat them with a torch and 
bend them and you’re good. And these fools are like I don’t have a torch so 
this is a good deal. A torch is what, $20?  You’re still ahead plus you learn 
something. Total idiots, they deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they 
won’t listen to reality.

Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. Fnidiots.

We should start selling some shite to these fools.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron as 
their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of chatter for 
quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying to sell all of his 
junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or something.  This is also 
the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 because he wanted to learn out to 
take one apart.  WTF?


On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other options 
right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several products and 
services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot of options to be 
found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum lines. Submitted order , 
paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be rebuilt. Here it is middle of 
Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself on patience but I’ve about run 
out.  I would not recommend ordering from Spencer even if you don’t have many 
options. This has been a most frustrating experience.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments and sells a 
pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over them. I’m like dude go 
to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep wrenches, heat them with a torch and 
bend them and you’re good. And these fools are like I don’t have a torch so 
this is a good deal. A torch is what, $20?  You’re still ahead plus you learn 
something. Total idiots, they deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they 
won’t listen to reality. 

Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. Fnidiots. 

We should start selling some shite to these fools. 

--FT
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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron as 
> their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of chatter 
> for quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying to sell all 
> of his junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or something.  This 
> is also the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 because he wanted to 
> learn out to take one apart.  WTF?
> 
>> On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other 
>> options right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several 
>> products and services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot 
>> of options to be found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum 
>> lines. Submitted order , paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be 
>> rebuilt. Here it is middle of Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself 
>> on patience but I’ve about run out.  I would not recommend ordering from 
>> Spencer even if you don’t have many options. This has been a most 
>> frustrating experience.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron 
as their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of 
chatter for quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying 
to sell all of his junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or 
something.  This is also the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 
because he wanted to learn out to take one apart.  WTF?


On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other options 
right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several products and 
services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot of options to be 
found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum lines. Submitted order , 
paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be rebuilt. Here it is middle of 
Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself on patience but I’ve about run 
out.  I would not recommend ordering from Spencer even if you don’t have many 
options. This has been a most frustrating experience.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
They anticipate a crash and are liquidating their assets before moving to
Costa Rica.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sooo, what is the reason for this? It also seems like most of our cars at
> the moment are realtor spec.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was at a meeting last week with a guy I know, he sells mostly
> commercial RE.  He had a newish X7 he was driving, white/beige.  A friend
> of mine is a realtorette on the semi-fancy gated community island and she
> drives one of those smaller Lexus SUV things, white/beige.
> >
> > There you go.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 1/15/22 11:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Everyone seems hung up on realtor spec cars.
> >>
> >>> On 1/15/2022 10:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Just the thing for a retro realtor
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469552844550204/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E350 4matic - 193k miles - $5,999

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That’s more a $3500 car with those miles even if in decent shape, esp in Snow 
and crap 

--FT
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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brilliant photographer. Price high for a car coming up on 200k miles and 
> likely balance-shaft time-bomb, but maybe if it's made it this far, it's a 
> random good one or already had the engine replaced?
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/villa-park-mercedes-e350-4matic/7433277537.html
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[MBZ] 123 fakebook

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I didn’t want to have to post this but really don’t have too many other options 
right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several products and 
services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot of options to be 
found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum lines. Submitted order , 
paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be rebuilt. Here it is middle of 
Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride myself on patience but I’ve about run 
out.  I would not recommend ordering from Spencer even if you don’t have many 
options. This has been a most frustrating experience.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 2008 E350 4matic - 89k miles - $1,200

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
If the engine is good that would be a good deal. Junkyard wheels are cheepcheep 

--FT
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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 2:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Salvage title, needs a couple of wheels -- but 2008 probably has a good 
> engine (I'd still want to check VIN though). Might be a low-mileage donor for 
> a better car that needs an engine?
> 
> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/middletown-2008-mercedes-benz-e350/7432998351.html
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Re: [MBZ] it’s a cheap 300sd with some life left in it, 1984 Mercedes 300SD - turbo diesel - runs good - $1,500 (Spartanburg)

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The leather in those States is as durable as parchment

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> Looks like a turd and needs more work to be a driver
>
>
> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/spartanburg-1984-mercedes-300sd-turbo/7433149056.html
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Re: [MBZ] Clean oil off belt track

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I got a McCulloch which is quite good. There are 2 sizes, I got the bigger one

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 12:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Got one to recommend?
> 
>> On 1/15/2022 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Engine degreaser or some simple green cleaner and an old tooth brush to 
>> scrub it, wipe down good
>> 
>> If you don't have a steam cleaner you really should get one, that would make 
>> the job go pretty easy as the green cleaner and some steam will blast all 
>> the crap off easy without power washing.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 1/15/22 11:26 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> So the 642 was leaking oil from the oil filter housing gasket and basically 
>>> dripping into the belt which was slinging oil everywhere. Replaced both of 
>>> the gaskets but have not reinstalled the belt yet. I want to clean the oil 
>>> off the pulleys at least before installing a new belt. Typically I would 
>>> soak it with engine decreased then hose off or power wash the front of 
>>> motor with car outside. Since it’s in the shop I can really do this. What 
>>> would be a good product to use or method to a more localized approach to 
>>> just cleaning the pulleys with car in the shop. Other option would be to 
>>> just put it back together to pull it out of shop the. Do degreaser and 
>>> power wash.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
UPS has major ground package consolidation hubs in various parts of the 
country. Arizona, Utah, Georgia, Kentucky, Indiana, and Illinois. There are 
many air hubs in the US too, the largest being "Worldport" in Louisville, KY.  
Depending on the logistics of a package, it may just make stops at minor 
"feeder" hubs, and then to the hub local to you, and then your doorstep. Many 
Amazon packages are shipped by air. If your package originated in California, I 
would guess it went by air to the Kentucky hub, and now is in transit to a hub 
closer to OK. You'll have your stuff by Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. The 
UPS tracking system eliminated showing every stop a package makes on its 
journey through the system, at least for the end user.


Rick

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Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: [MBZ] UPS

Now lets talk about UPS.  Ordered an assortment of fuel hose clamps on
Amazon prime last week.  Delivery is supposed to be Monday.  Tracking
shows it came out of CA and is currently somewhere in KY.  So now it has
to come way back west to get to me?  WTF?


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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
A lot depends on your proximity to distribution centers and who is doing the 
last mile. I get stuff next day all the time in Tampa, but in Flagstaff it’s 
dependent on when I order it, and rarely less than three days.

-D

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've found that Amazon's prices have gone up substantially. I haven't 
> ordered anything from them since August. In either getting stuff locally or 
> using eBay.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes wrote:   There also appears to be no such 
> thing as prime 2 day shipping anymore. Often times I could order something 
> today and have it tomorrow on prime 2 day shipping. 2 days at the very least. 
> Now days it takes a week or longer. Not a lot of point in paying for prime 
> anymore.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> WIX is a safe bet for industrial engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used 
>> WIX for years in the generator business and never once had an issue.
>> 
>> I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.
>> 
>> I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
>> have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the 
>> shippers base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me 
>> $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a 
>> monitor is in it, it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.
>> 
>> So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
>> box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
>> only have to do it in one direction.
>> 
>> Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. 
>> I’ve already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory 
>> boxes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
>>> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
>>> yesterday afternoon...
>>> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
>>> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
>>> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
>>> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
   On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via 
 Mercedes  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally 
>>> got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
>>> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in 
>>> my office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now 
>>> head out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx 
>>> truck rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected 
>>> delivery today but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
>>> 
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT: violent volcanic eruption in south pacific

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Near Tonga a few hours ago. Satellite imagery is quite impressive.

https://twitter.com/wonderofscience/status/1482280041799385092?s=20

Estimated at  more than 100 megaton equivalent. By comparison the USSR "Tsar 
Bomba" test was ~50 megatons; Krakatoa eruption was 200 megatons.
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
May your new to you Benz give you decades of trouble free service.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-2013-2014-MERCEDES-M-OWNERS-MANUAL-W-NAVI-KIT-ML-350-500-550-63-AMG-4MATIC-/124499364295


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

All I had a very nice ride home, but was a bit nervous drive my brand new car 
in track. The new car does have the vehicle collision avoidance warning 
indication for changing lanes which is nice. It has navigation, heated seats, 
retractable side mirrors, and other things that I have not discovered yet. The 
bad news is NO operators manual. It is no where to be found, unless it has a 
special storage compartment that I haven’t found. I did find a PDF copy of it 
on MBUSA web site, I have downloaded and am starting to review. Will let you 
know how things are going after I have driven it for awhile. Have schedule a 
general car inspection at our local Mercedes dealer to make sure there are no 
issue with the car,  fingers crossed. This car requires DEF, so should be 
interesting to see how often that needs to be refilled. Car has a little over 
86,000 miles on it.

Hope all goes well?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 86K

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Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Massmann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Robert, please monitor your fuel economy and post it.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 10:28 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should
  be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the
  X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a
  learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip
  North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio

  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
  diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
  were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
  page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
  24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
  considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
  I really do not like white.

  Bob Massmann

  -Original Message-
  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  >  wrote:
  >
  > Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday.
  > Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included
  > all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has
  > 86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it
  > goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my
  > funds transfer for purchase this week.
  >
  > Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole
  > new learning experience.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Robert Massmann
  >
  >
  > I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago
  > and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and
  > alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope
  >
  > From: Andrew Strasfogel
  > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  > To: Mercedes Discussion List
  > Cc: Robert Massmann
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes
  >
  > Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the
  > dealer should include new tires and brakes.
  >
  >
  > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down
  > and
  >  look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car
  > from
  >  the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.
  >
  >
  > 
https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have heard that everything he does is in one way or another connected to 
improving the techology he thinks is necessary to fulfill his fantasy fever 
dream of living on Mars.



On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> I had read in several articles Tesla had quality control issues. This 
> would confirm that. Guess Elon Musk never heard of Demming. Tesla is a 
> subsidy farm more than a car company.
>
>
> Rick
>
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> Sent: January 15, 2022 12:48 PM
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> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>
> Low mileage Tesla story.
> I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.
>
> https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad
>
> Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took
> delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound
> from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she
> reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for
> inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day,
> Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but
> feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell
> her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.
>
> Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor,
> who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare
> "the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't
> buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get
> the car towed in if she was worried.
>
> She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad
> that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician
> removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner
> was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car
> likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper.
> Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service
> center invite her in.
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I had read in several articles Tesla had quality control issues. This would 
confirm that. Guess Elon Musk never heard of Demming. Tesla is a subsidy farm 
more than a car company.


Rick

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Low mileage Tesla story.
I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad

Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took
delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound
from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she
reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for
inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day,
Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but
feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell
her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.

Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor,
who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare
"the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't
buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get
the car towed in if she was worried.

She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad
that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician
removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner
was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car
likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper.
Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service
center invite her in.

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[MBZ] 2008 E350 4matic - 89k miles - $1,200

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Salvage title, needs a couple of wheels -- but 2008 probably has a good engine 
(I'd still want to check VIN though). Might be a low-mileage donor for a better 
car that needs an engine?

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/middletown-2008-mercedes-benz-e350/7432998351.html

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[MBZ] 2006 E350 4matic - 193k miles - $5,999

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Brilliant photographer. Price high for a car coming up on 200k miles and likely 
balance-shaft time-bomb, but maybe if it's made it this far, it's a random good 
one or already had the engine replaced?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/villa-park-mercedes-e350-4matic/7433277537.html
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yeah I dropped Prime a couple of years ago. I don't buy from Amazon at all 
anymore.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> There also appears to be no such thing as prime 2 day shipping anymore. 
> Often times I could order something today and have it tomorrow on prime 
> 2 day shipping. 2 days at the very least. Now days it takes a week or 
> longer. Not a lot of point in paying for prime anymore.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> WIX is a safe bet for industrial engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used 
>> WIX for years in the generator business and never once had an issue.
>> 
>> I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.
>> 
>> I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
>> have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the 
>> shippers base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me 
>> $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a 
>> monitor is in it, it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.
>> 
>> So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
>> box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
>> only have to do it in one direction.
>> 
>> Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. 
>> I’ve already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory 
>> boxes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
>>> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
>>> yesterday afternoon...
>>> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
>>> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
>>> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
>>> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally 
>>> got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
>>> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in 
>>> my office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now 
>>> head out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx 
>>> truck rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected 
>>> delivery today but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
These shippers use a hub-and spoke model. All the packages go to a hub for 
sorting and then out to regional facilities for further sorting/delivery.

At one time in the early days of FedEx, *every* package went to Memphis 
overnight for sorting and then back out towards its final destination. I think 
they have more hubs now, and the different shipping options (ground, 2nd day, 
next day, etc.) may vary, but a large bit of their overnight express shipping 
still goes through Memphis.


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> Now lets talk about UPS.  Ordered an assortment of fuel hose clamps on 
> Amazon prime last week.  Delivery is supposed to be Monday.  Tracking 
> shows it came out of CA and is currently somewhere in KY.  So now it has 
> to come way back west to get to me?  WTF?
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Re: [MBZ] Clean oil off belt track

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Brake cleaner? It's my go-to for degreasing.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> So the 642 was leaking oil from the oil filter housing gasket and 
> basically dripping into the belt which was slinging oil everywhere. 
> Replaced both of the gaskets but have not reinstalled the belt yet. I 
> want to clean the oil off the pulleys at least before installing a new 
> belt. Typically I would soak it with engine decreased then hose off or 
> power wash the front of motor with car outside. Since it’s in the shop 
> I can really do this. What would be a good product to use or method to 
> a more localized approach to just cleaning the pulleys with car in the 
> shop. Other option would be to just put it back together to pull it out 
> of shop the. Do degreaser and power wash. 
>
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

Low mileage Tesla story.
I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad

Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took 
delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound 
from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she 
reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for 
inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day, 
Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but 
feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell 
her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.


Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor, 
who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare 
"the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't 
buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get 
the car towed in if she was worried.


She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad 
that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician 
removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner 
was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car 
likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper. 
Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service 
center invite her in.


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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Rock Auto can have some great prices, especially their close-outs. Just have to 
watch the shipping. They ship parts from different locations, and each one will 
have a separate shipping charge. That can eat up the savings if you're not 
careful.


On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock 
> Auto for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) 
> showed up yesterday afternoon...
> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil 
> filters for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters 
> $5 each!I bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most 
> expensive was $6 for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price 
> at FLAPS...
> -Curt
>
> On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> 
> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. 
> Finally got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. 
> Yesterday I check tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just 
> now sitting here in my office I see the FedEx truck coming down the 
> road. I figured I could now head out to that shop and finish up the car 
> that is on the lift. FedEx truck rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check 
> tracking. Still says expected delivery today but now it’s in Sioux City 
> Iowa. Wtf? 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] SERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded PLEASE READ ENTIRE AD! $2200 - $2, 200 (Raleigh)

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
After my '06 Element had been sitting with a stone-dead battery, the idle was 
all over the place for a good while. I think the computer has to "re-learn" how 
to hold a smooth idle. Maybe something similar? Just needs a good battery and 
drive it for a few hours.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> This car is getting no love at $2200.  What if I was a serious LOBALLER?
>
> $2200 CASH IS THE FIRM PRICE!! CAR STARTS, RUNS ROUGH,THEN RUNS SMOOTH, 
> THEN RUNS ROUGH AGAIN, THEN SMOOTHS OUT TO A NORMAI IDLE, IT DOES RUN 
> AND DRIVE, BUT WILL NOT GO OVER 5 MPH BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON 
> .. 
> it smooths out completely in about 15 minutes,... . 2003 Mercedes E320 
> 178k miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done, that 
> included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc.. It will need 
> a battery but will jump with 2 jump boxes.. this might be the problem.. 
> we had just had it detailed to sell and they pressure washed the engine 
> bay and now it runs rough at idle... the dealer and the Mercedes repair 
> shops are all booked up for the next 3 months. Car is absolutely 
> loaded! 
> no accidents, new tires, brakes, etc... $2200 cash will buy it.. bring 
> your mechanic here if you want them to look at it. .. BRING A 
> TRAILER, or A TOW TRUCK TO GET IT HOME price is firm and we have 
> clean and clear title in hand, notarized and ready to 
> transferSERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, show contact 
> info 
> 
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7432559406.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I once tried to buy the property next to mine, which was vacant (had never been 
built on) at the time. I submitted a written offer to the seller, who was a 
flipper who had bought it at a tax lien auction (wish I'd been paying attention 
and knew about that, I would have been bidding).

Anyway they returned my letter with my offer amount crossed out and their 
original asking price written in. I figured it was over at that point, since 
they didn't move at all.

In retrospect with what property values have done lately, it would still have 
been worth it, but their ask was rather ridiculous at the time based on 
comparative sales.

Now I have a neighbor there and in the summertime it seems like every evening 
from 5:00pm to dark he is running some kind of power equipment. Lawn mower, 
garden tiller, weedeater, leaf blower, chain saw... something. If not that, his 
kid is riding a noisy two-stroke dirt bike around the property. I'm very much a 
live-and-let-live type of neighbor and people live out here in the country so 
they can do stuff like that, but he really stands out from the other neighbors 
in just being constantly noisy during times when most people are wanting to 
settle down and relax at the end of the day. I keep hoping that he'll 
eventually get all the trees cleared that he wants and have his property to his 
liking and will quiet down. But I also am thinking maybe he's just outside 
working to get away from the rest of the family ;-)

Allan


On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 8:17 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Eventually the owner (sounds like it's not the property disposal manager 
> at an insurance company) has to sell it to the high bidder or take his 
> ML and go home.
>
> If you're the high bidder every week, you've got the first part covered.
> Normally they'd at least offer the high bidder the opportunity to buy at 
> their reserve price, but they're not even doing that with you. Weird.
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Pt!
Everyone knows that a W115 240D will do a million miles on the original 
motor and get over 40 mpg and blow ice cold AC.
What is the big deal about an electric car? What has he spent on 
electricity to fuel his car and how much of it was produced from coal?




On 14/01/2022 7:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

*One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
Repairs*epairs
A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.

Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
quite a number of parts

in
its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
than 621,000 miles on that third battery.

That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
different drive motors have failed.

But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account

.

#NeuesProfilbild

pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
— Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022


According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
Tesla’s odometer.

There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
like this 425,000 mile example
.
But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.

The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
our business.

So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
be able to follow along on his Twitter account

.




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Re: [MBZ] 280E?

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

What a turd.  Remove the 1 and the price is still too high.

On 1/15/2022 11:16 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Not sure I have ever seen one of these.

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Re: [MBZ] 280E?

2022-01-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Not sure I have ever seen one of these.
>> https://offerup.co/BUxRpsijQmb 

Cover vehicle on R magazine one year, wasn't it?

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[MBZ] UPS

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Now lets talk about UPS.  Ordered an assortment of fuel hose clamps on 
Amazon prime last week.  Delivery is supposed to be Monday.  Tracking 
shows it came out of CA and is currently somewhere in KY.  So now it has 
to come way back west to get to me?  WTF?



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[MBZ] 280E?

2022-01-15 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Not sure I have ever seen one of these.

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Re: [MBZ] Clean oil off belt track

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Got one to recommend?

On 1/15/2022 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Engine degreaser or some simple green cleaner and an old tooth brush 
to scrub it, wipe down good


If you don't have a steam cleaner you really should get one, that 
would make the job go pretty easy as the green cleaner and some steam 
will blast all the crap off easy without power washing.


--FT

On 1/15/22 11:26 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
So the 642 was leaking oil from the oil filter housing gasket and 
basically dripping into the belt which was slinging oil everywhere. 
Replaced both of the gaskets but have not reinstalled the belt yet. I 
want to clean the oil off the pulleys at least before installing a 
new belt. Typically I would soak it with engine decreased then hose 
off or power wash the front of motor with car outside. Since it’s in 
the shop I can really do this. What would be a good product to use or 
method to a more localized approach to just cleaning the pulleys with 
car in the shop. Other option would be to just put it back together 
to pull it out of shop the. Do degreaser and power wash.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] so what's the deal with these? 2021 Mercedes-Benz G-Class AMG G 63 AWD 4MATIC 4dr SUV -CALL/TEXT TODAY!!!! - $299, 999 (+ Furrst Class Cars LLC)

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Canadian $$s?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am seeing these new G-wagens offered for sale by random used car
> dealers for huge money.  I wonder if they bought them on spec now trying
> to take advantage of the stupid market or what, or if it is some kind of
> money laundering operation.  Or if they have some kind of arrangement
> with a stealer to sell them and make more with a big markup over sticker.
>
> A 15-20yo G is 10% the price of this thing or less but I guess if you
> want to be a poseur then you gotta have a $300k military ute.
>
>
> *Condition:* Used
> *Mileage:* 2,103
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/charlotte-2021-mercedes-benz-class-amg/7433147188.html
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Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

2022-01-15 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
All I had a very nice ride home, but was a bit nervous drive my brand new car 
in track. The new car does have the vehicle collision avoidance warning 
indication for changing lanes which is nice. It has navigation, heated seats, 
retractable side mirrors, and other things that I have not discovered yet. The 
bad news is NO operators manual. It is no where to be found, unless it has a 
special storage compartment that I haven’t found. I did find a PDF copy of it 
on MBUSA web site, I have downloaded and am starting to review. Will let you 
know how things are going after I have driven it for awhile. Have schedule a 
general car inspection at our local Mercedes dealer to make sure there are no 
issue with the car,  fingers crossed. This car requires DEF, so should be 
interesting to see how often that needs to be refilled. Car has a little over 
86,000 miles on it.

Hope all goes well?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 86K  

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2022 9:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

Robert, please monitor your fuel economy and post it.

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, 10:28 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  I will be picking up the 2012 Mercedes ML350 diesel tomorrow. So it should 
  be interesting learning with the new car. It has many new features that the 
  X3 or my previous 1995 Mercedes E300D didn't have, so it will be a bit of a 
  learning curve. I will get a nice initial drive in it, with a 120 mile trip 
  North this coming Sunday to visit with my mother in law.

  Bob Massmann
  Oregonia, Ohio

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 2:30 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  I am not sure, prices ranged were from 18K - 23K. There also weren't as many
  diesel version to choose from. Diesels may not have been as desirable and
  were a little lower price. It is strange when looking at the cargurus web
  page itwas listing at 18.5K,  but when I went to the dealer it was list at
  24.5K with a heavy discount. There was a 2014 ML350 Bluetec that I was also
  considering. It was listed at 21K with 119,000 miles on it. It was white and
  I really do not like white.

  Bob Massmann

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 11:29 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: Kaleb Striplin
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes

  Geez that seems like crack pricing but what do I know?

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On Jan 11, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  > Well I purchased the 2012 ML350 Blue that I went to look at on Sunday. 
  > Market is not in favor of the buyer. I paid 20,000 for it which included 
  > all of the taxes, title, and plate fees. The good news the car only has 
  > 86,000 miles. The last Mercedes I purchased had 240K. We will see how it 
  > goes will picking the car up this Friday or next Monday. Depending on my 
  > funds transfer for purchase this week.
  >
  > Wish me luck with my newer Mercedes. I hope all goes well? Will be a whole 
  > new learning experience.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Robert Massmann
  >
  >
  > I now what the tires may be as I just put tires on the X3 a year or so ago 
  > and it was 800 for the tires and another for mounting, balance, and 
  > alignment. More option for bargaining I would hope
  >
  > From: Andrew Strasfogel
  > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2022 10:46 AM
  > To: Mercedes Discussion List
  > Cc: Robert Massmann
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looking for My next Mercedes
  >
  > Looks nice, but for that price on a 10 y.o. SUV way out of warranty the 
  > dealer should include new tires and brakes.
  >
  >
  > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 10:35 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  I have a 2012 Diesel version about 50 miles from me. May try to go down 
  > and
  >  look and drive it today if they are open. Seems like a nice looking car 
  > from
  >  the photos, but the tires and brakes may need to be addressed.
  >
  >
  > 
https://jeffwylerflorencehonda.com/used/Mercedes-Benz/2012-Mercedes-Benz-M-Class-04360aaa0a0e09af26b5cff9870c3e59.htm
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[MBZ] so what's the deal with these? 2021 Mercedes-Benz G-Class AMG G 63 AWD 4MATIC 4dr SUV -CALL/TEXT TODAY!!!! - $299, 999 (+ Furrst Class Cars LLC)

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I am seeing these new G-wagens offered for sale by random used car 
dealers for huge money.  I wonder if they bought them on spec now trying 
to take advantage of the stupid market or what, or if it is some kind of 
money laundering operation.  Or if they have some kind of arrangement 
with a stealer to sell them and make more with a big markup over sticker.


A 15-20yo G is 10% the price of this thing or less but I guess if you 
want to be a poseur then you gotta have a $300k military ute.



*Condition:* Used
*Mileage:* 2,103

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/charlotte-2021-mercedes-benz-class-amg/7433147188.html

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[MBZ] it’s a cheap 300sd with some life left in it, 1984 Mercedes 300SD - turbo diesel - runs good - $1,500 (Spartanburg)

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Looks like a turd and needs more work to be a driver

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/spartanburg-1984-mercedes-300sd-turbo/7433149056.html

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Re: [MBZ] Clean oil off belt track

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Engine degreaser or some simple green cleaner and an old tooth brush to 
scrub it, wipe down good


If you don't have a steam cleaner you really should get one, that would 
make the job go pretty easy as the green cleaner and some steam will 
blast all the crap off easy without power washing.


--FT

On 1/15/22 11:26 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So the 642 was leaking oil from the oil filter housing gasket and basically 
dripping into the belt which was slinging oil everywhere. Replaced both of the 
gaskets but have not reinstalled the belt yet. I want to clean the oil off the 
pulleys at least before installing a new belt. Typically I would soak it with 
engine decreased then hose off or power wash the front of motor with car 
outside. Since it’s in the shop I can really do this. What would be a good 
product to use or method to a more localized approach to just cleaning the 
pulleys with car in the shop. Other option would be to just put it back 
together to pull it out of shop the. Do degreaser and power wash.

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Re: [MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sooo, what is the reason for this? It also seems like most of our cars at the 
moment are realtor spec. 

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was at a meeting last week with a guy I know, he sells mostly commercial 
> RE.  He had a newish X7 he was driving, white/beige.  A friend of mine is a 
> realtorette on the semi-fancy gated community island and she drives one of 
> those smaller Lexus SUV things, white/beige.
> 
> There you go.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 1/15/22 11:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Everyone seems hung up on realtor spec cars.
>> 
>>> On 1/15/2022 10:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Just the thing for a retro realtor
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469552844550204/
 
 
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[MBZ] Clean oil off belt track

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
So the 642 was leaking oil from the oil filter housing gasket and basically 
dripping into the belt which was slinging oil everywhere. Replaced both of the 
gaskets but have not reinstalled the belt yet. I want to clean the oil off the 
pulleys at least before installing a new belt. Typically I would soak it with 
engine decreased then hose off or power wash the front of motor with car 
outside. Since it’s in the shop I can really do this. What would be a good 
product to use or method to a more localized approach to just cleaning the 
pulleys with car in the shop. Other option would be to just put it back 
together to pull it out of shop the. Do degreaser and power wash. 

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Re: [MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I was at a meeting last week with a guy I know, he sells mostly 
commercial RE.  He had a newish X7 he was driving, white/beige.  A 
friend of mine is a realtorette on the semi-fancy gated community island 
and she drives one of those smaller Lexus SUV things, white/beige.


There you go.

--FT

On 1/15/22 11:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Everyone seems hung up on realtor spec cars.

On 1/15/2022 10:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Just the thing for a retro realtor

--FT
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On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469552844550204/


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Re: [MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Everyone seems hung up on realtor spec cars.

On 1/15/2022 10:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Just the thing for a retro realtor

--FT
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On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469552844550204/


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Re: [MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Just the thing for a retro realtor 

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469552844550204/
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I always thought Baldwin or Hastings or
Whatever were supposed to be good 

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still avoid Hastings after they bought Baldwin? The filters I ordered I 
> think are Baldwin/Hastings...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:45 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes wrote:   WIX is a safe bet for industrial 
> engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used WIX for years in the generator 
> business and never once had an issue.
> 
> I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.
> 
> I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
> have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the 
> shippers base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me 
> $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a 
> monitor is in it, it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.
> 
> So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
> box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
> only have to do it in one direction.
> 
> Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. 
> I’ve already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory 
> boxes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
>> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
>> yesterday afternoon...
>> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
>> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
>> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
>> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> 
>> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally 
>> got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
>> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
>> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now 
>> head out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck 
>> rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery 
>> today but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded PLEASE READ ENTIRE AD! $2200 - $2, 200 (Raleigh)

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I am tempted, it would be a good flip for sure. 

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 10:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Show up with your trailer in tow and $1000. They’ve been dragging this along 
> for so long they’ve got to be ready to toss in the towel by now.
> 
> -D
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This car is getting no love at $2200.  What if I was a serious LOBALLER?
>> 
>> $2200 CASH IS THE FIRM PRICE!! CAR STARTS, RUNS ROUGH,THEN RUNS SMOOTH, THEN 
>> RUNS ROUGH AGAIN, THEN SMOOTHS OUT TO A NORMAI IDLE, IT DOES RUN AND DRIVE, 
>> BUT WILL NOT GO OVER 5 MPH BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON .. it smooths out 
>> completely in about 15 minutes,... . 2003 Mercedes E320 178k miles, 2nd 
>> owner..V6 that just had its major service done, that included timing chain, 
>> tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc.. It will need a battery but will jump 
>> with 2 jump boxes.. this might be the problem.. we had just had it detailed 
>> to sell and they pressure washed the engine bay and now it runs rough at 
>> idle... the dealer and the Mercedes repair shops are all booked up for the 
>> next 3 months. Car is absolutely loaded! no accidents, new tires, brakes, 
>> etc... $2200 cash will buy it.. bring your mechanic here if you want them to 
>> look at it. .. BRING A TRAILER, or A TOW TRUCK TO GET IT HOME price 
>> is firm and we have clean and clear title in hand, notarized and ready to 
>> transferSERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, show contact info 
>> 
>> 
>> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7432559406.html
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've found that Amazon's prices have gone up substantially. I haven't ordered 
anything from them since August. In either getting stuff locally or using eBay.
Curt

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  On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   There also appears to be no such thing 
as prime 2 day shipping anymore. Often times I could order something today and 
have it tomorrow on prime 2 day shipping. 2 days at the very least. Now days it 
takes a week or longer. Not a lot of point in paying for prime anymore.



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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WIX is a safe bet for industrial engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used WIX 
> for years in the generator business and never once had an issue.
> 
> I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.
> 
> I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
> have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the 
> shippers base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me 
> $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a 
> monitor is in it, it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.
> 
> So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
> box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
> only have to do it in one direction.
> 
> Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. 
> I’ve already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory 
> boxes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
>> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
>> yesterday afternoon...
>> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
>> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
>> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
>> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> wrote:  
>> 
>> 
>> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally 
>> got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
>> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
>> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now 
>> head out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck 
>> rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery 
>> today but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Still avoid Hastings after they bought Baldwin? The filters I ordered I think 
are Baldwin/Hastings...
Curt

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  On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:45 AM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   WIX is a safe bet for industrial 
engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used WIX for years in the generator business 
and never once had an issue.

I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.

I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the shippers 
base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me $130-$140 
to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a monitor is in it, 
it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.

So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
only have to do it in one direction.

Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. I’ve 
already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory boxes.

-D

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
> yesterday afternoon...
> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 for 
> 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
> -Curt
> 
>    On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> 
> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally got 
> notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now head 
> out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck rolls 
> on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery today 
> but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I saw those pictures yesterday. Stunning. The UP says they’re going to stop 
running trans through LA if the locals don’t help them keep the area secure. 
They (UP) says they’ve increased security but still can’t keep up with it.

-D

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:07 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Can't get your package?
> 
> This doesn't help.
> 
> https://mobile.twitter.com/johnschreiber/status/1481770722271760384
> 
> Neither does this.
> 
> https://youtube.com/shorts/hB6lIqYoamo
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We all need to see you behind the wheel of that awesome Bluetec diesel.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 9:18 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Keep it going, you need to see how cheap you can get it.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 14, 2022, 08:52:24 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> This will be the 4th time I have been the winner, this time $1700. When
> will the seller finally accept sometime other than their stupid reserve
> amount?
>
>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/66367701
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Re: [MBZ] SERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded PLEASE READ ENTIRE AD! $2200 - $2, 200 (Raleigh)

2022-01-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Show up with your trailer in tow and $1000. They’ve been dragging this along 
for so long they’ve got to be ready to toss in the towel by now.

-D

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> This car is getting no love at $2200.  What if I was a serious LOBALLER?
> 
> $2200 CASH IS THE FIRM PRICE!! CAR STARTS, RUNS ROUGH,THEN RUNS SMOOTH, THEN 
> RUNS ROUGH AGAIN, THEN SMOOTHS OUT TO A NORMAI IDLE, IT DOES RUN AND DRIVE, 
> BUT WILL NOT GO OVER 5 MPH BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON .. it smooths out 
> completely in about 15 minutes,... . 2003 Mercedes E320 178k miles, 2nd 
> owner..V6 that just had its major service done, that included timing chain, 
> tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc.. It will need a battery but will jump with 
> 2 jump boxes.. this might be the problem.. we had just had it detailed to 
> sell and they pressure washed the engine bay and now it runs rough at idle... 
> the dealer and the Mercedes repair shops are all booked up for the next 3 
> months. Car is absolutely loaded! no accidents, new tires, brakes, etc... 
> $2200 cash will buy it.. bring your mechanic here if you want them to look at 
> it. .. BRING A TRAILER, or A TOW TRUCK TO GET IT HOME price is firm 
> and we have clean and clear title in hand, notarized and ready to 
> transferSERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, show contact info 
> 
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7432559406.html
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[MBZ] Crack?

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Can't get your package?

This doesn't help.

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnschreiber/status/1481770722271760384

Neither does this.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hB6lIqYoamo


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[MBZ] I snorted way too much blow last night

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> it would cost me $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to 
> Tampa.

Is it any better with Greyhound?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
There also appears to be no such thing as prime 2 day shipping anymore. Often 
times I could order something today and have it tomorrow on prime 2 day 
shipping. 2 days at the very least. Now days it takes a week or longer. Not a 
lot of point in paying for prime anymore.



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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> WIX is a safe bet for industrial engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used WIX 
> for years in the generator business and never once had an issue.
> 
> I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.
> 
> I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
> have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the 
> shippers base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me 
> $130-$140 to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a 
> monitor is in it, it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.
> 
> So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
> box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
> only have to do it in one direction.
> 
> Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. 
> I’ve already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory 
> boxes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
>> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
>> yesterday afternoon...
>> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
>> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
>> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
>> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> 
>> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally 
>> got notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
>> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
>> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now 
>> head out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck 
>> rolls on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery 
>> today but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
>> 
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[MBZ] OT: Macs

2022-01-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> 30” Apple Cinema Display... Mac Pro

A doughty combination.  I'm typing this on mine right now, while it churns
in the background running some builds in a VM.

I just gifted my brother a similar setup, but with the 23" monitor.
His stupid PC is always 'dying', and he's giving $50 a pop to the
local computer geeks to resurrect the registry, or whatever it is that
always goes bad on Windoze.  Not that he's got the money to waste
that way, living on disability as he does.

My son, home from school for now, has plugged a 30"-er into his
Macbook Pro.  Seems to like it.  (Even with its fading yellow-ish
backlight.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
WIX is a safe bet for industrial engines, I would avoid Hastings. I used WIX 
for years in the generator business and never once had an issue.

I’m a bit peeved at shippers, too.

I have a 30” Apple Cinema Display I want to move from Tampa to Flagstaff. I 
have an official Apple shipping box for one in Flagstaff. Because the shippers 
base most of their costs on volume and not weight, it would cost me $130-$140 
to ship an 8 pound empty box from Flagstaff to Tampa. Once a monitor is in it, 
it would only add about $10 for the additional weight.

So now I’m just going to have to pack it myself in some sort of non-standard 
box. It’s still going to cost a boatload of $$ to ship it, but at least I’ll 
only have to do it in one direction.

Then I just have to hope the carrier doesn’t destroy it as they often do. I’ve 
already had two Mac Pros smashed by carriers when shipped in factory boxes.

-D

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto 
> for the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up 
> yesterday afternoon...
> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I 
> bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 for 
> 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> 
> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally got 
> notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now head 
> out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck rolls 
> on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery today 
> but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
> 
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[MBZ] E300 in Allabammy 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class,$1,000

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Brittney's FB pic of her giving tongue to her skinny bf in front of the 
7-11. I'm not sure what that "something bigger" and "make me an offer" 
might include...


Will trade for something bigger or make me an offer. Pm me for more 
details.


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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Tracking just updated this morning. It’s now back in Lenexa KS and delivery 
updated to tomorrow. Wtf?

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> On Jan 15, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto for 
> the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up yesterday 
> afternoon...
> 
> As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters 
> for a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!
> I bought windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 
> for 26", the wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally got 
> notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
> tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
> office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now head 
> out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck rolls 
> on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery today 
> but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes



Keep it going, you need to see how cheap you can get it.

-Curt




On Friday, January 14, 2022, 08:52:24 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





This will be the 4th time I have been the winner, this time $1700. When will 
the seller finally accept sometime other than their stupid reserve amount?


https://www.copart.com/lot/66367701


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[MBZ] 560 with rough starting problem 1989 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL Sedan 4D, $5, 000

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Doesn't look half bad but way overpriced if it has starting issues.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4855598321166715

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[MBZ] will need tlc on interior and all over 1999 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D, $1, 250

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Doesn't look THAT bad

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[MBZ] amazing interior in gorgeous shape 1973 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 450 Roadster 2D, $1, 400

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

unfortunately the rest of the car is a complete turd

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Re: [MBZ] FedEx

2022-01-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Shipping is such a crap shoot. I ordered a bunch of stuff from Rock Auto for 
the snowmobile club on Thursday, oil filters (box 1 of 3) showed up yesterday 
afternoon...
As a side note we saved a BUNCH of money going with Rock auto. Oil filters for 
a 12v Cummins were $7 each for WIX, Hastings Fuel filters $5 each!I bought 
windshield wipers for all four groomers, the most expensive was $6 for 26", the 
wipers alone would have been 4x the price at FLAPS...
-Curt

On Friday, January 14, 2022, 03:40:47 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
I ordered a bunch of parts from Naperville a couple of weeks ago. Finally got 
notice it shipped. FedEx shows it delivered by today. Yesterday I check 
tracking and it shows in Lenexa KS. Makes sense. Just now sitting here in my 
office I see the FedEx truck coming down the road. I figured I could now head 
out to that shop and finish up the car that is on the lift. FedEx truck rolls 
on by but doesn’t stop. I check tracking. Still says expected delivery today 
but now it’s in Sioux City Iowa. Wtf? 


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[MBZ] Idk what all is wrong with it 2002 Mercedes-Benz mercedes, $1, 000

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

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[MBZ] Ambitious 2001 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 600 Sedan 4D,$4,900

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

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[MBZ] A bit of patina but not too bad 1972 Mercedes-Benz 250, $2, 900

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/924175731624236

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[MBZ] Jumper cables in back seat come with? 1997 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D, $1, 850

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Front seats likely trashed but could be a decent beater

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4729498500420432

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[MBZ] SERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded PLEASE READ ENTIRE AD! $2200 - $2, 200 (Raleigh)

2022-01-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

This car is getting no love at $2200.  What if I was a serious LOBALLER?

$2200 CASH IS THE FIRM PRICE!! CAR STARTS, RUNS ROUGH,THEN RUNS SMOOTH, 
THEN RUNS ROUGH AGAIN, THEN SMOOTHS OUT TO A NORMAI IDLE, IT DOES RUN 
AND DRIVE, BUT WILL NOT GO OVER 5 MPH BECAUSE OF WHAT IS GOING ON .. 
it smooths out completely in about 15 minutes,... . 2003 Mercedes E320 
178k miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done, that 
included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc.. It will need 
a battery but will jump with 2 jump boxes.. this might be the problem.. 
we had just had it detailed to sell and they pressure washed the engine 
bay and now it runs rough at idle... the dealer and the Mercedes repair 
shops are all booked up for the next 3 months. Car is absolutely loaded! 
no accidents, new tires, brakes, etc... $2200 cash will buy it.. bring 
your mechanic here if you want them to look at it. .. BRING A 
TRAILER, or A TOW TRUCK TO GET IT HOME price is firm and we have 
clean and clear title in hand, notarized and ready to 
transferSERIOUS ONLY...PLEASE DON'T WASTE OUR TIME, show contact 
info 



https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7432559406.html

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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes



Eventually the owner (sounds like it's not the property disposal manager 
at an insurance company) has to sell it to the high bidder or take his 
ML and go home.


If you're the high bidder every week, you've got the first part covered.
Normally they'd at least offer the high bidder the opportunity to buy at 
their reserve price, but they're not even doing that with you. Weird.


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Floriduh does the same thing. Really p*sees me off when I have an older car 
with low or good miles on the clock.

-D

> On Jan 15, 2022, at 5:58 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-01-14 22:43, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I know the battery is completely dead. I have
>> bought many copart vehicles that batteries were dead and when charged
>> or replaced, started right up.
> 
> 
> Around here, Runs and Drives can mean "we have the key, it took a jump start, 
> and it went forward 2' and backwards 2' under its own power". If it doesn't 
> run and drive, a battery is less likely to fix it.
> 
>> On 2022-01-14 23:25, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> The odometer is "exempt".  What??
> 
> If it's ten years old, the state doesn't care about the odometer disclosure 
> and at least in Michigan prints EXEMPT in the odometer field of the title 
> whether you give them the odometer reading or not. I had that happen to a one 
> owner 15 year old Toyota with 84,000 certified miles on it. I wish I'd 
> photocopied the original title before putting it in my name.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I doubt it. But they are in love with brown coal.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do the Germans give the depletion allowance too?
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
> >
> https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
> >> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed
> SomeMajor
> >> > Repairs*epairs
> >> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> >> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers
> (932,256
> >> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >> >
> >> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been
> through
> >> > quite a number of parts
> >> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> >> > in
> >> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car
> is on
> >> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> >> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> >> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done
> more
> >> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >> >
> >> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> >> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> >> > different drive motors have failed.
> >> >
> >> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses
> it as
> >> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > #NeuesProfilbild
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> >> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> >> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >> >
> >> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559,
> mile)
> >> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> >> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> >> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >> >
> >> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> >> > like this 425,000 mile example
> >> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> >> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >> >
> >> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost
> over the
> >> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense
> to
> >> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it
> isn’t
> >> > our business.
> >> >
> >> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> >> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> >> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > OK Don
> >> >
> >> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >> >
> >> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am
> doing.”  Wernher
> >> > Von Braun
> >> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> >> > ___
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-01-14 22:43, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I know the battery is completely dead. I have
bought many copart vehicles that batteries were dead and when charged
or replaced, started right up.



Around here, Runs and Drives can mean "we have the key, it took a jump 
start, and it went forward 2' and backwards 2' under its own power". If 
it doesn't run and drive, a battery is less likely to fix it.


On 2022-01-14 23:25, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The odometer is "exempt".  What??


If it's ten years old, the state doesn't care about the odometer 
disclosure and at least in Michigan prints EXEMPT in the odometer field 
of the title whether you give them the odometer reading or not. I had 
that happen to a one owner 15 year old Toyota with 84,000 certified 
miles on it. I wish I'd photocopied the original title before putting it 
in my name.


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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Do the Germans give the depletion allowance too?

—FT

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
> https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
>> > Repairs*epairs
>> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
>> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
>> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>> > 
>> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
>> > quite a number of parts
>> > 
>> > in
>> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
>> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
>> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
>> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
>> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>> > 
>> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
>> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
>> > different drive motors have failed.
>> > 
>> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
>> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
>> > 
>> > .
>> > 
>> > #NeuesProfilbild
>> > 
>> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
>> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
>> > 
>> > 
>> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
>> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
>> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
>> > Tesla’s odometer.
>> > 
>> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
>> > like this 425,000 mile example
>> > .
>> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>> > 
>> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
>> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
>> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
>> > our business.
>> > 
>> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
>> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
>> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
>> > 
>> > .
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > OK Don
>> > 
>> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> > 
>> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> > Wernher
>> > Von Braun
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>> > ___
>> > http://www.okiebenz.com
>> > 
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>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yup

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
> 
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> 
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> <https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/>
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> 
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
> 
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> <https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
> .
> 
> #NeuesProfilbild
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> <https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> 
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
> 
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> <https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496>.
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> 
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
> 
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> <https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
> .
> 
> --
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Yeah. Okay.

https://realmoney.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/tesla-s-main-product-isn-t-cars-it-s-subsidies-14769263

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2020/07/28/elon-musk-is-government-subsidy-critic-but-teslas-q2-results-were-helped-by-covid-19-aid/

And that's not the only company that gets them.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/08/03/tesla-subsidies-how-much/

Where's our multi billion dollar handout?

Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> > Repairs*epairs
> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >
> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> > quite a number of parts
> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> > in
> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is
> on
> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >
> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> > different drive motors have failed.
> >
> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it
> as
> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > #NeuesProfilbild
> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >
> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >
> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> > like this 425,000 mile example
> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >
> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over
> the
> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> > our business.
> >
> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> > ___
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The odometer is "exempt".  What??

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> That is the mystery, don't know if it runs or not, or if anything is
> wrong with the injun.  I know the battery is completely dead. I have
> bought many copart vehicles that batteries were dead and when charged or
> replaced, started right up.
>
> On 1/14/2022 9:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > It just needs a new Injun...
> >
> > OK - CERT OF TITLE-INDIAN TRIBAL
> >
> > My ML said something like State Farm Comprehensive on the windshield
> > sticker with the lot number on it.
> > When I saw the deer hair in the cracks in the bumper I realized why it
> > wasn't totaled by collision or given a salvage title.
> >
> > On 2022-01-14 22:33, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I have no idea who owns
> >> it and could not get an idea of it when I looked at it in person. Not
> >> sure if its a dealer or what.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/

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> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> > Repairs*epairs
> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >
> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> > quite a number of parts
> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> > in
> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is
> on
> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >
> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> > different drive motors have failed.
> >
> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it
> as
> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > #NeuesProfilbild
> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >
> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >
> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> > like this 425,000 mile example
> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >
> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over
> the
> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> > our business.
> >
> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] 04E500

2022-01-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
way to go.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Took the $900E500 (now up to $1600 or so) out tonight for first real
> drive. Took it easy as the front tires are crap but everything went well,
> no problems, suspension working, transmission working. Smells like rodent
> pee so need to finish cleaning the carpets and change the cabin filter too.
> It is a very fast car and handles really nicely. The 05E320 wagon feels
> quite slow by comparison.
>
> So I’m calling this project a success.
>
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That is the mystery, don't know if it runs or not, or if anything is 
wrong with the injun.  I know the battery is completely dead. I have 
bought many copart vehicles that batteries were dead and when charged or 
replaced, started right up.


On 1/14/2022 9:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

It just needs a new Injun...

OK - CERT OF TITLE-INDIAN TRIBAL

My ML said something like State Farm Comprehensive on the windshield 
sticker with the lot number on it.
When I saw the deer hair in the cracks in the bumper I realized why it 
wasn't totaled by collision or given a salvage title.


On 2022-01-14 22:33, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have no idea who owns
it and could not get an idea of it when I looked at it in person. Not
sure if its a dealer or what.


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

It just needs a new Injun...

OK - CERT OF TITLE-INDIAN TRIBAL

My ML said something like State Farm Comprehensive on the windshield 
sticker with the lot number on it.
When I saw the deer hair in the cracks in the bumper I realized why it 
wasn't totaled by collision or given a salvage title.


On 2022-01-14 22:33, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have no idea who owns
it and could not get an idea of it when I looked at it in person. Not
sure if its a dealer or what.


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[MBZ] Michigan Dukes of Hazzard

2022-01-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/01/intoxicated-driver-does-dukes-of-hazzard-jump-over-west-michigan-freeway-bridge-police-say.html


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The first time I was high bidder at $2200.  Next time it was $2500.  
Last time was $1100, this time $1700.  His buy it now was $4000, now 
$3800.  Seller has never even counter bid my winning bids.  I have 
wondered what it looks like on the seller side. Surely they are paying 
every time it runs, or paying storage fees.  I have no idea who owns it 
and could not get an idea of it when I looked at it in person. Not sure 
if its a dealer or what.


On 1/14/2022 9:30 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

On 2022-01-14 21:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like it has a hitch. That’s good.


And what, $500 less than last week?
That's good too.
If they keep lowering the starting bid and Kaleb keeps being the only 
bidder, it could get pretty cheap by the time CoPart storage costs 
start piling up and the fool decides he wants the thing off his books.


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-01-14 21:58, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like it has a hitch. That’s good.


And what, $500 less than last week?
That's good too.
If they keep lowering the starting bid and Kaleb keeps being the only 
bidder, it could get pretty cheap by the time CoPart storage costs start 
piling up and the fool decides he wants the thing off his books.


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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> 
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> 
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> 
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
> 
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> #NeuesProfilbild
> 
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> 
> 
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
> 
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> .
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> 
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
> 
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-01-14 21:51, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Battery management software may have improved; Teslas auto-update over 
the air.


Perhaps the battery technology and/or chemistry is also better than it
was in 2012.


The batteries are probably better, plus the owner may have figured out 
not to run it below 20% every day.


I'm amazed that he (or more likely, three shifts of drivers) managed to 
average 150kmi since 2019.
That's a decent annual mileage for a single driver long haul semi in the 
USA, and incredible for a taxi.


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Looks like it has a hitch. That’s good. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This will be the 4th time I have been the winner, this time $1700. When will 
> the seller finally accept sometime other than their stupid reserve amount?
> 
> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/66367701
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Battery management software may have improved; Teslas auto-update over the air.

Perhaps the battery technology and/or chemistry is also better than it was in 
2012.


On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, at 8:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Indeed! He is getting a lot of miles out of the latest battery pack though
> - wonder what's different?
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
>> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>>
>> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
>> Repairs*epairs
>> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
>> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
>> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>>
>> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
>> quite a number of parts
>> <
>> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
>> >
>> in
>> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
>> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
>> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
>> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
>> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>>
>> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
>> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
>> different drive motors have failed.
>>
>> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
>> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
>> >
>> .
>>
>> #NeuesProfilbild
>> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
>> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
>> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
>> >
>>
>> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
>> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
>> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
>> Tesla’s odometer.
>>
>> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
>> like this 425,000 mile example
>> <
>> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
>> >.
>> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>>
>> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
>> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
>> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
>> our business.
>>
>> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
>> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
>> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
>> >
>> .
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
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>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] 04E500

2022-01-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Took the $900E500 (now up to $1600 or so) out tonight for first real drive. 
Took it easy as the front tires are crap but everything went well, no problems, 
suspension working, transmission working. Smells like rodent pee so need to 
finish cleaning the carpets and change the cabin filter too. It is a very fast 
car and handles really nicely. The 05E320 wagon feels quite slow by comparison. 

So I’m calling this project a success. 

--FT
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[MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This will be the 4th time I have been the winner, this time $1700. When will 
the seller finally accept sometime other than their stupid reserve amount?


https://www.copart.com/lot/66367701


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Indeed! He is getting a lot of miles out of the latest battery pack though
- wonder what's different?

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
>
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> .
>
> #NeuesProfilbild
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
>
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
>
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
>
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> .
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

2022-01-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: okd...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

*One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
Repairs*epairs
A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.

Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
quite a number of parts
<https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/>
in
its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
than 621,000 miles on that third battery.

That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
different drive motors have failed.

But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
<https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
.

#NeuesProfilbild
<https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
— Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
<https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw>

According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
Tesla’s odometer.

There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
like this 425,000 mile example
<https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496>.
But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.

The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
our business.

So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
be able to follow along on his Twitter account
<https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor>
.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - BUFF Moving

2022-01-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The last B-17 built -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yaKCkXa-rs

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 3:53 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s really amazing
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43784/heavy-traffic-a-b-52-bomber-is-being-trucked-across-the-central-united-states
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