Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-10 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
Thanks, I appreciate all the help I can get.  Will be talking with him
today and passing on the constructive advice.

Ralph

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!


 If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize.  If you
 were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot!

 It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing,
 that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy
 seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap.
 And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year.
 Or month.

 After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be
 far behind.  The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's
 no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking.

  He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed.


 If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine,
 it's four bolts right on the front.


 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage 
check
this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.  
Replaced

the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,


Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
126 Manual:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/matrix.htm


 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
 Thomas via Mercedes
 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 6:49 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Rich Thomas
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
 
 I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere.  I guess I
could
 put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it.
 
 This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about
repairs on
 these cars.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
  I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.
 
  RB
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Yep. 

http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo

‎https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
How did I guess? I suspect he has  a video on how to hook up your MB
seatbelt. That said i find his how-to videos helpful.
On Jul 9, 2015 8:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 ‎Yep.

 http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo

 ‎
 https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!


If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize.  If you
were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot!

It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing,
that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy
seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap.
And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year.
Or month.

After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be
far behind.  The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's
no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking.


He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed.


If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine,
it's four bolts right on the front.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.  Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ralph,

I think he was referring to the mechanic.

If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to 
check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover 
as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of 
seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a 
quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances.

I would be looking for another mechanic.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
 the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
 Ralph
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
 this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
 Replaced
 the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
 leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
 
 Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
 replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
 Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
 rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
 at you at that point.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
 this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
 Replaced
 the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
 leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,


 Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
 replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
 Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
 rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
 at you at that point.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Yeah, thats what I read out of it. It seems crazy to me that knowing you had a 
leak they pulled the transmission and didn't replace all the exterior seals on 
the trans. I'd suggest to them that they get to do this seal for free...
-Curt
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Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
   
I suggest you misunderstood.
I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing 
easy to get at items while the transmission was out.

RB

On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
 Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
 the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

 Ralph

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
 this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
 Replaced
 the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
 leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,

 Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
 replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
 Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
 rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
 at you at that point.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I suggest you misunderstood.
I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing 
easy to get at items while the transmission was out.


RB

On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check

this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,


Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.

RB

On 09/07/2015 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
pump could be removed.

Thanks.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
standard) but just cars.
-Curt
   From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Ralph,

I think he was referring to the mechanic.

If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front

(pump)

cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under

those

circumstances.

I would be looking for another mechanic.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't

have

the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage

check

this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,

Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere.  I guess I 
could put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it.


This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about 
repairs on these cars.


--R



On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.

RB




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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Ralph writes:

He didn't seem to know how the
pump could be removed.


‎I could be wrong, but I think the front seal can be done WITHOUT removing the 
front pump. ‎
‎
Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Ralph,

 I think he was referring to the mechanic.

 If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
 to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump)
 cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
 slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
 gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those
 circumstances.

 I would be looking for another mechanic.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
 have
  the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
  Ralph
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
 check
  this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
  Replaced
  the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
  leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
 
  Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
  replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
  Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
  rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
  at you at that point.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other 
transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were 
some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher 
quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars.
-Curt
  From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
   
I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Ralph,

 I think he was referring to the mechanic.

 If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
 to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump)
 cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
 slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
 gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those
 circumstances.

 I would be looking for another mechanic.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
 have
  the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
  Ralph
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
 check
  this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
  Replaced
  the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
  leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
 
  Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
  replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
  Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
  rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
  at you at that point.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Ralph Robertson via Mercedes
He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
pump could be removed.

Thanks.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
 transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
 were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
 cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
 standard) but just cars.
 -Curt
   From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

 I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
 mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
 younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
 my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
 isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
 I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
 lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
 My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
 for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
 the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
 this job.
 Thanks for any help.
 Ralph

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Ralph,
 
  I think he was referring to the mechanic.
 
  If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
  to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
 (pump)
  cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
  slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
  gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
 those
  circumstances.
 
  I would be looking for another mechanic.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
   On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
  have
   the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
  
   Ralph
  
   On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
   mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
  check
   this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
   Replaced
   the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
   leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
  
   Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
   replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
   Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
   rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
   at you at that point.
  
   -- Jim
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
 how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
 and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
 and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
 pump could be removed.
 
 Thanks.
 Ralph
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
 transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
 were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
 cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
 standard) but just cars.
 -Curt
  From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
 
 I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
 mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
 younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
 my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
 isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
 I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
 lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
 My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
 for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
 the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
 this job.
 Thanks for any help.
 Ralph
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Ralph,
 
 I think he was referring to the mechanic.
 
 If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
 to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
 (pump)
 cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
 slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
 gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
 those
 circumstances.
 
 I would be looking for another mechanic.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
 have
 the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
 Ralph
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
 check
 this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
 Replaced
 the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
 leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
 
 Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
 replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
 Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
 rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
 at you at that point.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

2015-07-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Kent Bergsma must have a video online about that.
On Jul 9, 2015 6:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
  how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some
 research
  and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion
 group
  and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
  pump could be removed.
 
  Thanks.
  Ralph
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
  transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced
 they
  were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
  cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
  standard) but just cars.
  -Curt
   From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
 
  I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have
 mercedes
  mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff
 are
  younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer
 doing
  my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but
 he
  isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with
 what
  I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I
 have
  lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
  My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
  for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I
 know
  the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
  this job.
  Thanks for any help.
  Ralph
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Ralph,
 
  I think he was referring to the mechanic.
 
  If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in
 order
  to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
  (pump)
  cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
  slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
  gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
  those
  circumstances.
 
  I would be looking for another mechanic.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
  have
  the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
  Ralph
 
  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
  check
  this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
  Replaced
  the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
  leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
 
  Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
  replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
  Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
  rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
  at you at that point.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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