Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Hummer HX. If GM can't sell Hummer, it will be axed and there are no buyers. Hummer died with the H1. The rest is just lipstick on the GM pig. Maybach. Terminally ill. Gone in 2012 Too bad. Maybe in 10 years I could afford one! A shame there were no diesels... Viper DEAD. For sale with no buyers. Those, I kind of liked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
guess this means i'm not going to win my war with saturn to fix my defective timing chain, huh? On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:06 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: The February 2009 issue of CAR from the UK prints a two page article detailing upcoming cancellations or delays. BMW Concept CS, a CLS clone. DEAD BMW X-7 DEAD Cadillac CTS Coupe DELAYED Honda F1-DEAD Hummer HX. If GM can't sell Hummer, it will be axed and there are no buyers. Maybach. Terminally ill. Gone in 2012 C-Class Cabrio. DEAD R-Class. Was to be replaced with sort of S-Class wagon which has been cancelled. Fate to be decided in 2010. Pontiac Solstice DEAD Saturn DEAD. All models. Viper DEAD. For sale with no buyers. Tesla Model S. Delayed indefinitely. Volvo is also for sale with no buyers. Porsche said, hell no. MB said they don't want it, fearing that some Volvo parts might creep into their own cars. RLE ** Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0027) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/755bb5fa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/289164c4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Gary Hurst wrote: guess this means i'm not going to win my war with saturn to fix my defective timing chain, huh? What's the deal with that, did it fail, or were you wanting it updated before it failed? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
i just want it updated before it fails. actually, more than anything, i want them to admit it needs to be updated, which will never happen. i'm hoping the magic of mobil 1 will save me On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: guess this means i'm not going to win my war with saturn to fix my defective timing chain, huh? What's the deal with that, did it fail, or were you wanting it updated before it failed? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/178022c7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Gary Hurst wrote: i just want it updated before it fails. actually, more than anything, i want them to admit it needs to be updated, which will never happen. Reminds me of Ford. When finally on the verge of being forced into a government recall of the warping 3.8L cylinder heads, they admitted responsibility and did a nearly useless voluntary recall when the affected engines were 6-12 years old. Everybody whose engines already failed got nothing. Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed, but only if the car had less than 100k on it. Then a year or two later, they just ended the voluntary recall. Mine failed during the recall, but it had 139k gentle highway miles on it, so I had to fix it myself. (I bought it from a schoolteacher who lived 1/2 mile from the freeway and taught in another town) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed Is this really a fix? Seems that it must be either a design or manufacturing flaw if so many were warping. After the milling, wouldn't it just eventually warp again? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
All depends on the cause of the warped heads. If they were out of tolerance at the time of manufacture then the problem is solved. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed Is this really a fix? Seems that it must be either a design or manufacturing flaw if so many were warping. After the milling, wouldn't it just eventually warp again? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1905 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1905 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed Is this really a fix? Seems that it must be either a design or manufacturing flaw if so many were warping. After the milling, wouldn't it just eventually warp again? Don't know. The shop that rebuilt my heads said that they would be stable, having already warped into their preferred shape. It's got 186k on it now and it's starting to use oil. I should have taken the exhaust and oil pan off and reringed the pistons when I had it apart in 2002. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed Is this really a fix? Seems that it must be either a design or manufacturing flaw if so many were warping. After the milling, wouldn't it just eventually warp again? Don't know. The shop that rebuilt my heads said that they would be stable, having already warped into their preferred shape. It's got 186k on it now and it's starting to use oil. I should have taken the exhaust and oil pan off and reringed the pistons when I had it apart in 2002. Mitch. ___ IIRC from a machine shop course, castings and some other parts have to be kept in a high temp oven for a period of hours and gradually brought down to room temp in order to relieve the stresses from casting. If the stress relief time is too short, the parts can eventually warp. Probably a temptation on the part of management to reduce the time in the oven to an absolute minium. The instructor, an expert retired machinist, had been a favorite of Henry Ford who made him director of the Ford Museum. He was so knowledgeable, machinists who worked at Honeywell on inertial platforms for rockets would take the course just so they could ask him about their unique machining problems such as machining thin silicone to close tolerances. Gerry -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1906 - Release Date: 1/21/2009 7:07 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
If that's the Ford 3.8 V6, I could have given you one and the trans with 57,000 original kms on it. I was doing some cleaning out about 6 months ago and off it went to the smelter. Ed 300E 2009/1/21 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Everybody whose engines failed during the recall got the warped heads milled flat and new gaskets installed Is this really a fix? Seems that it must be either a design or manufacturing flaw if so many were warping. After the milling, wouldn't it just eventually warp again? Don't know. The shop that rebuilt my heads said that they would be stable, having already warped into their preferred shape. It's got 186k on it now and it's starting to use oil. I should have taken the exhaust and oil pan off and reringed the pistons when I had it apart in 2002. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/faf75079/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Automotive death notices/no Obama content, sorry
The February 2009 issue of CAR from the UK prints a two page article detailing upcoming cancellations or delays. BMW Concept CS, a CLS clone. DEAD BMW X-7 DEAD Cadillac CTS Coupe DELAYED Honda F1-DEAD Hummer HX. If GM can't sell Hummer, it will be axed and there are no buyers. Maybach. Terminally ill. Gone in 2012 C-Class Cabrio. DEAD R-Class. Was to be replaced with sort of S-Class wagon which has been cancelled. Fate to be decided in 2010. Pontiac Solstice DEAD Saturn DEAD. All models. Viper DEAD. For sale with no buyers. Tesla Model S. Delayed indefinitely. Volvo is also for sale with no buyers. Porsche said, hell no. MB said they don't want it, fearing that some Volvo parts might creep into their own cars. RLE ** Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0027) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/755bb5fa/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
