Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curt wrote:
 Sadly both Trump and Walker are nuts and exceptionally good at making bad 
 decisions. Trump takes chances and regularly goes bankrupt, can't do that 
 with a country...
 Walker tells people one thing, then does another, ie he sets up labor deals 
 and then breaks them so his corporate buddies can get big kickbacks rather 
 than paying taxes...
 As usual the turdburger and crap sandwich.

Maybe?
Yes, I hear the same stuff, not from FOX.
How does a person find any reality (...maybe truth...?) when the major
info sources are either FOX or progressive?
I have zero tolerance for science climate change explanations, but I
don't think there is any path away from status quo even if I did
believe science.
Neither side has proposals that fit the description reasonable
It is either more of the same, or, more of the same.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


Those would be stationary.

The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.They told me it 
meant Fahrtzoid  The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret 
the rest of the word.  The meaning is roughly intended for vehicular 
use.  Herr Gabard could probably give a better explanation.




Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in 
the 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices 
in the high $2.50s.


Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, 
and easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to 
them is Lister.


Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Goobermnt motors must be confident that they have effectively killed 
off the Diesel engine for Fahrtzoid use.   (as in the Deutz F series 
of engines: F912 and F913.)


Price of Dissel is 2.49 and benzin is 2.68.  Its been way too long 
since the world was the right side up.


Now if we can move the country toward getting right side up

Trump and Walker certainly have the guts to say and do what they 
believe in.  That is a refreshing change from the marxist or 
socialist choices of the recent past.


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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the 
2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the high 
$2.50s.

Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and easy to 
work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is Lister.

Dan

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:36 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Goobermnt motors must be confident that they have effectively killed off the 
 Diesel engine for Fahrtzoid use.   (as in the Deutz F series of engines: F912 
 and F913.)
 
 Price of Dissel is 2.49 and benzin is 2.68.  Its been way too long since the 
 world was the right side up.
 
 Now if we can move the country toward getting right side up
 
 Trump and Walker certainly have the guts to say and do what they believe in.  
 That is a refreshing change from the marxist or socialist choices of the 
 recent past.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I paid $2.95 today because I was running late and I knew this particular 
station would be the fastest to get in and out of. The cheapest option was 
$2.79, fortunately the Jetta only needs 12 gallons nearly totally empty. Also 
fortunately this station has the best quality fuel which gives the best 
mileage, not enough to make up for the price differential but a couple extra 
MPGs are always nice, this should be a 55mpg tank.
-Curt
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 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:09 AM
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What is a BA, Dan?

Paid 2.69 last night while driving home from Charlotte, my favorite local 
station is 2.65.  Gas Buddy says I can pay 2.53 at a station down in ChuckTown. 
 I think unleaded is around 2.40?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300



On July 17, 2015 9:00:53 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the
2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the
high $2.50s.

Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and
easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is
Lister.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sadly both Trump and Walker are nuts and exceptionally good at making bad 
decisions. Trump takes chances and regularly goes bankrupt, can't do that with 
a country...
Walker tells people one thing, then does another, ie he sets up labor deals and 
then breaks them so his corporate buddies can get big kickbacks rather than 
paying taxes...
As usual the turdburger and crap sandwich.
-Curt
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Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, 
Torque
   
Goobermnt motors must be confident that they have effectively killed 
off the Diesel engine for Fahrtzoid use.  (as in the Deutz F series 
of engines: F912 and F913.)

Price of Dissel is 2.49 and benzin is 2.68.  Its been way too long 
since the world was the right side up.

Now if we can move the country toward getting right side up

Trump and Walker certainly have the guts to say and do what they 
believe in.  That is a refreshing change from the marxist or 
socialist choices of the recent past.



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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
What is a BA, Dan?

Paid 2.69 last night while driving home from Charlotte, my favorite local 
station is 2.65.  Gas Buddy says I can pay 2.53 at a station down in ChuckTown. 
 I think unleaded is around 2.40?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 17, 2015 9:00:53 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the
2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the
high $2.50s.

Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and
easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is
Lister.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Badass.

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 What is a BA, Dan?
 
 Paid 2.69 last night while driving home from Charlotte, my favorite local 
 station is 2.65.  Gas Buddy says I can pay 2.53 at a station down in 
 ChuckTown.  I think unleaded is around 2.40?
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On July 17, 2015 9:00:53 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the
 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the
 high $2.50s.
 
 Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and
 easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is
 Lister.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Deutz has made over the road engines for decades. Much of the truck rolling 
stock in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa was powered by Deutz engines in 
the latter half of the last century.

Now Lister I don't know about, as those I only dealt with as stationary 
engines. Maybe one of the members more familiar with the Brits would know the 
answer.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Those would be stationary.
 
 The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.They told me it meant 
 Fahrtzoid  The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret the rest of 
 the word.  The meaning is roughly intended for vehicular use.  Herr Gabard 
 could probably give a better explanation.
 
 
 
 Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the 
 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the high 
 $2.50s.
 
 Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and easy 
 to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is Lister.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Lister is (or at least was) the gold standard for stationary engines. There are 
many reports of engines that have been in use for years or even decades, 
chugging along pumping water or making power or whatever...
I'd love to find a Lister or a listeroid clone to build a generator head to for 
use at camp. I'd build a little shed for it with a concrete pad and a big 
muffler.
-Curt
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, 
Torque
   
Deutz has made over the road engines for decades. Much of the truck rolling 
stock in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa was powered by Deutz engines in 
the latter half of the last century.

Now Lister I don't know about, as those I only dealt with as stationary 
engines. Maybe one of the members more familiar with the Brits would know the 
answer.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Those would be stationary.
 
 The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.    They told me it meant 
 Fahrtzoid  The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret the rest of 
 the word.  The meaning is roughly intended for vehicular use.  Herr Gabard 
 could probably give a better explanation.
 
 
 
 Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the 
 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the high 
 $2.50s.
 
 Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and easy 
 to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is Lister.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
DIesel has drooped down to $2.79 at the River Road Valero, a dime cheaper
at the Rockville Gulf.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You need a wood-fired steam engine

 --R



 On 7/17/15 1:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 Lister is (or at least was) the gold standard for stationary engines.
 There are many reports of engines that have been in use for years or even
 decades, chugging along pumping water or making power or whatever...
 I'd love to find a Lister or a listeroid clone to build a generator head
 to for use at camp. I'd build a little shed for it with a concrete pad and
 a big muffler.
 -Curt
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
   Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 12:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class
 Towing, Torque
 Deutz has made over the road engines for decades. Much of the truck
 rolling stock in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa was powered by
 Deutz engines in the latter half of the last century.

 Now Lister I don't know about, as those I only dealt with as stationary
 engines. Maybe one of the members more familiar with the Brits would know
 the answer.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Those would be stationary.

 The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.They told me it
 meant Fahrtzoid  The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret the
 rest of the word.  The meaning is roughly intended for vehicular use.
 Herr Gabard could probably give a better explanation.



  Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the
 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the high
 $2.50s.

 Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and
 easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is
 Lister.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Kohler distributor I worked for in the mid 80s was a Lister/Petter 
distributor.

Petter was the throw away engine line, cheap, aluminum block diesel engines 
good for maybe 5,000 - 10,000 hours. Listers were the expensive, last longer 
than your average lifetime engines.

Everybody knows the old arrow boards they used to have on the highways around 
road construction projects, the orange trailers with the big black sign board 
with yellow lights in the shape of an arrow that would blink.

Nearly every one of those was powered by a Petter single cylinder diesel engine 
that drove a Motorola 12VDC belt driven alternator. The alternator charged a 
Group 8D battery which in turn ran the lights.

Petter had a deal where you could turn in a core (complete engine) and they 
would discount the purchase of a new engine heavily. We used to have these sign 
board companies come in at the end of the construction season with literally 
truckloads of Petter AC1 engines to trade in on new ones.

The old engines went back to Petter and were crushed, we were told.

We didn't sell a lot of Listers that I know of, as the equipment manufacturers 
didn't want to invest the cost of an engine into their products. We saw sales 
in agriculture and irrigation, though.

Parts for Listers were nothing short of obscene, but considering that it wasn't 
unusual to get 20,000 hours or more out of an engine, you could justify the 
expense.

Dan

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 On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Lister is (or at least was) the gold standard for stationary engines. There 
 are many reports of engines that have been in use for years or even decades, 
 chugging along pumping water or making power or whatever...
 I'd love to find a Lister or a listeroid clone to build a generator head to 
 for use at camp. I'd build a little shed for it with a concrete pad and a big 
 muffler.
 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Curt wrote:
 
 I'd love to find a Lister or a listeroid clone to build a
 generator head to for use at camp.

www.vidhataindia.com/lister.htm


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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

You need a wood-fired steam engine

--R



On 7/17/15 1:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Lister is (or at least was) the gold standard for stationary engines. There are 
many reports of engines that have been in use for years or even decades, 
chugging along pumping water or making power or whatever...
I'd love to find a Lister or a listeroid clone to build a generator head to for 
use at camp. I'd build a little shed for it with a concrete pad and a big 
muffler.
-Curt
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, 
Torque

Deutz has made over the road engines for decades. Much of the truck rolling stock in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa was powered by Deutz engines in the latter half of the last century.


Now Lister I don't know about, as those I only dealt with as stationary 
engines. Maybe one of the members more familiar with the Brits would know the 
answer.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:


Those would be stationary.

The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.They told me it meant Fahrtzoid  
The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret the rest of the word.  The 
meaning is roughly intended for vehicular use.  Herr Gabard could probably 
give a better explanation.




Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in the 
2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices in the high 
$2.50s.

Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, and easy to 
work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to them is Lister.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Back in the '80s a trucking neighbor said a truckline tried Deutz air cooled 
diesels in big road tractors. They had trouble maintaining proper working 
temperature in the winter and the mpg was not very good. He thought they just 
stuck a diesel intended for farm use in the trucks since there was still a 
chopper in the intake that cut up grass, etc. into smaller pieces.
Gerry 

Curly McLain wrote:
 Those would be stationary.
 The F series has timing advance for vehicle use.They told me it 
 meant Fahrtzoid  The fahr part is understandable.  I can't interpret 
 the rest of the word.  The meaning is roughly intended for vehicular 
 use.  Herr Gabard could probably give a better explanation.
 
 
 
 Diesel has dropped down here, too. Benzine has remained stable, in 
 the 2.40/gallon range, but diesel seems to be flirting with prices 
 in the high $2.50s.
 
 Deutz makes some BA air cooled diesels. Darned near indestructible, 
 and easy to work on. The only diesel engine that holds a candle to 
 them is Lister.
 
 Dan
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Deutz has made over the road engines for decades. Much of the truck 
rolling stock in the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa was powered 
by Deutz engines in the latter half of the last century.


Now Lister I don't know about, as those I only dealt with as 
stationary engines. Maybe one of the members more familiar with the 
Brits would know the answer.


Dan


yes,  Deutz F series engine can run a truck in the sahara for years 
and never have a radiator boil over and won't blow a radiator hose. 
You just need to keep the blower clean and open the airbox regularly 
to check for dirt buildup etc. and make sure the fan stays running.


What were the Diesel engines used by the krauts in tanks in WWII? 
I've wondered if the deutz may have been used there.


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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I considered it for awhile. Certainly I have a nearly infinite supply of spruce 
and poplar to burn but there's a reason they were steam ENGINEERS...

Curt
Who is not interested in getting blowed up by a steam boiler

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Eight years to develop the engine???  That explains a lot...

Still, a promising turn for more diesel fueled vehicles...
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 15, 2015 12:57:59 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes


http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/06/chevy-colorado-diesel-promises-best-in-class-towing-torque.html

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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It's because they love Hitler so much:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wraq6VnXmGo

Dan Whatever you do, don't mention the war.


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 On Jul 15, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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 The engine is built in THAILAND!!  wtf!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Chevrolet Colorado Diesel Promises Best-in-Class Towing, Torque

2015-07-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The engine is built in THAILAND!!  wtf!

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