Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
On Mon, 4 May 2015 22:05:28 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > So Wilton is still bouncing, do we have a copy of a bounce? Anybody > else still bouncing? Yes, I'm still not able to post to the list. I have included a copy of a recent rejection (after 5 days of trying) below. Craig Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:06:47 -0600 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:06:47 -0600 The original message was received at Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:01:28 -0600 from ame8.swcp.com [216.184.2.163] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - (reason: 451 Connection timeout, try later) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to okiebenz.com.: >>> DATA <<< 451 Connection timeout, try later ... Deferred: 451 Connection timeout, try later Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1a.swcp.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:01:28 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; mercedes@okiebenz.com Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Remote-MTA: DNS; okiebenz.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 451 Connection timeout, try later Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 11:06:47 -0600 From: Craig To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Test Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:00:02 -0600 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.0beta7 (GTK+ 2.10.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) On Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:04:34 -0400 Max Dillon wrote: > Craig, > > This email just arrived. It did, three days after I sent it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: List Mail
Most of my msgs were held, some since 26 Apr, and were finally posed this morning dated 3 May. By then, many of the msgs were/are irrelevant. My msgs sent to the list today (3 May) are not being posted. The one you quote below was sent 1 May; posted to list 3 May. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone To: Mercedes List ; WILTON Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] List Mail Wilton, I am seeing your mail on the list, way back to ? a few days back. Does anyone else see this mail? I have quarantine only for DMARC set for my domain, so if people are seeing it maybe their domains just started honoring the setting - as of a few weeks ago, Gmail completely ignored the quarantine/reject option set by the sender domain. Best, Tim On May 3, 2015 5:02 AM, "WILTON via Mercedes" wrote: Mine are not delivered. Mine not Yahoo. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" To: ; "Mercedes Discussion List" ; "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] List Mail Here is what I found on a brief search. It explains why the list got buggered about a year ago, regarding yahoo mail addys. http://blog.mandrill.com/yahoos-recent-dmarc-changes-and-how-that-impacts-senders.html http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/82426971544/an-update-on-our-dmarc-policy-to-protect-our-users Key sentence. "On Friday afternoon last week, Yahoo made a simple change to its DMARC policy from "report" to "reject". In other words, we requested that all other mail services reject emails claiming to come from a Yahoo user, but not signed by Yahoo." http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141120/yahoo-email-antispoofing-policy-breaks-mailing-lists.html http://marketingland.com/email-senders-stymied-yahoo-mail-79442 AOL too. http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/ How to fix it. http://www.spamresource.com/2014/04/run-email-discussion-list-heres-how-to.html?m=1 http://blog.threadable.com/how-threadable-solved-the-dmarc-problem http://dmarc.org/faq.html#s_3 http://onlinegroups.net/blog/2014/04/10/yahoo-dmarc-better-mailing-list-manager/ For Apache mailing lists. http://www.sunstarsys.com/essays/mailing-lists For Mailman lists. http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=dmarc+fix&l=mailman-users%40python.org http://wiki.list.org/DOC/Frequently Asked Questions?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=0&value=dmarc&context=180 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mailman-us...@python.org&q=subject:"Re%3A+[Mailman-Users]+Which+from%2C+reply+and+DMARC+settings+for+a+discussion+group%3F"&o=newest&f=1 http://wiki.list.org/DEV/DMARC Best answer here? https://blog.tigertech.net/posts/mailman-updated-fixes-dmarc/ I apologize for the number of links. The final one may propose the easiest, most comprehensive solution. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
I was getting them but that seems to be fixed now. Yahoo is also not a rinky dink email provider... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail I forgot to mention that Craig is getting "undeliverable" responses, too. > On May 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So Wilton is still bouncing, do we have a copy of a bounce? Anybody else > still bouncing? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 4, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Yeah Wilton. >> >> Says that other than the flurry of mails that went through the other day he >> can't hit the list. >> >> Curt >> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 10:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail >> >> Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the >> last couple of days? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed >>> up. >>> On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> KALEB! >>>> >>>> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... >>>> - Forwarded Message - >>>> From: WILTON >>>> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < >>>> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; >>>> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro >>>> ; >>>> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; >>>> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren >>>> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < >>>> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald >>>> Snook >>>> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM >>>> Subject: List mail >>>> >>>> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
I forgot to mention that Craig is getting "undeliverable" responses, too. > On May 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So Wilton is still bouncing, do we have a copy of a bounce? Anybody else > still bouncing? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 4, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Yeah Wilton. >> >> Says that other than the flurry of mails that went through the other day he >> can't hit the list. >> >> Curt >> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 10:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail >> >> Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the >> last couple of days? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed >>> up. >>> On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> KALEB! >>>> >>>> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... >>>> - Forwarded Message - >>>> From: WILTON >>>> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < >>>> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; >>>> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro >>>> ; >>>> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; >>>> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren >>>> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < >>>> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald >>>> Snook >>>> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM >>>> Subject: List mail >>>> >>>> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
They're not bouncing, the Okielist server is not responding to their mail. They're getting "undeliverable" responses from their ISP MX servers. I was getting these over the weekend from both list traffic and direct emails to Kaleb. Wilton's ISP is Time Warner, so it's not a rinky dink ISP. Mine is Verizon. Something is rotten in Okieland. > On May 4, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So Wilton is still bouncing, do we have a copy of a bounce? Anybody else > still bouncing? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 4, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Yeah Wilton. >> >> Says that other than the flurry of mails that went through the other day he >> can't hit the list. >> >> Curt >> >> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 10:56 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail >> >> Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the >> last couple of days? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed >>> up. >>> On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> KALEB! >>>> >>>> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... >>>> - Forwarded Message - >>>> From: WILTON >>>> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < >>>> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; >>>> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro >>>> ; >>>> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; >>>> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren >>>> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < >>>> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald >>>> Snook >>>> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM >>>> Subject: List mail >>>> >>>> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
So Wilton is still bouncing, do we have a copy of a bounce? Anybody else still bouncing? Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Yeah Wilton. > > Says that other than the flurry of mails that went through the other day he > can't hit the list. > > Curt > > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail > > Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the > last couple of days? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed > > up. > > On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > >> KALEB! > >> > >> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... > >>- Forwarded Message - > >> From: WILTON > >> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < > >> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; > >> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro > >> ; > >> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; > >> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren > >> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < > >> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald > >> Snook > >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM > >> Subject: List mail > >> > >> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
Yeah Wilton. Says that other than the flurry of mails that went through the other day he can't hit the list. Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the last couple of days? Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed > up. > On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> KALEB! >> >> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... >> - Forwarded Message - >> From: WILTON >> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < >> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; >> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro ; >> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; >> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren >> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < >> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald >> Snook >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM >> Subject: List mail >> >> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
Everything should be working as normal, is somebody getting bounced in the last couple of days? Sent from my iPhone > On May 4, 2015, at 9:16 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed > up. > On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> KALEB! >> >> Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... >>- Forwarded Message - >> From: WILTON >> To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < >> apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; >> Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro ; >> clay ; Craig McCluskey ; >> Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren >> Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < >> dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald >> Snook >> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM >> Subject: List mail >> >> Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: List mail
Amen. I have been on the list since 2002 & it has NEVER been this messed up. On May 4, 2015 10:13 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > KALEB! > > Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... > - Forwarded Message - > From: WILTON > To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain < > apchamberl...@gmail.com>; Andrew Strasfogel ; > Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro ; > clay ; Craig McCluskey ; > Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren > Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore < > dandkgilm...@frontier.com>; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald > Snook > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM > Subject: List mail > > Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: List mail
KALEB! Whatever happened to make this happen it needs to be fixed... - Forwarded Message - From: WILTON To: Addison Thompson ; Alex Chamberlain ; Andrew Strasfogel ; Angelo Giaimo ; Bob Rentfro ; clay ; Craig McCluskey ; Curt Raymond ; Dan Penoff ; Darren Marshall ; David & Kristin Gilmore ; Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>; Donald Snook Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 1:59 PM Subject: List mail Unsubscribed 1356 4 May '15. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
