Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
On 15/08/2015 9:10 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Greg wrote: OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? 'Cause Gmail is being helpful. I guess they figure you know what you sent. It bugs me - but I've found no way around it. ___ The messages you send do show in sent mail and in all mail RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
Who is using ProfBooth@gmail? Sacrilege! Ban them, ban them! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 15, 2015 11:57:03 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. Kaleb wrote: What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the email addresses listed in the postings. Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers. There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com. Now there is one for what looks like every member of the list. This is in each and every post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
I CAN SEE HILLARY!'S EMAILS!! --R On 8/15/15 11:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Curly wrote: Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. Kaleb wrote: What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the email addresses listed in the postings. Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers. There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com. Now there is one for what looks like every member of the list. This is in each and every post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
That is a gmail thing. my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent. Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. OH LIST MOM OH LIST MARTHA? OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the email addresses listed in the postings. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is a gmail thing. my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent. Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. OH LIST MOM OH LIST MARTHA? OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
OK, we need to get something straight for clarity’s sake: I only have rights to deal with the approval queue and subscriptions. Anything else, especially things that occur under the hood, are strictly the responsibility of the list’s owner. All the goofy issues with bounces and failures to respond need to go to him. I gots nothin' to do with that stuff. Sorry. Dan On Aug 15, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That is a gmail thing. my gmail has never sent me copies of mail I sent. Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. OH LIST MOM OH LIST MARTHA? OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
Curly wrote: Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. Yup. I the header X-Assp-Intended-For I just figured that was how Kaleb got the list server/bounce/spam thing fixed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
Greg wrote: OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? 'Cause Gmail is being helpful. I guess they figure you know what you sent. It bugs me - but I've found no way around it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
Thanks, I guess I'll switch to a comcast address instead. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question Normal I think. IIRC Gmail filters you from your own messages. -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Greg Fiorentino greg.fiorent...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Gmail Question OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gmail Question
OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
It is strange because that is not all the list addresses so I am not sure what the deal is. With all the spam and different mail providers blocking list mail it is getting more and more difficult to keep things running Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:05 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. Yup. I the header X-Assp-Intended-For I just figured that was how Kaleb got the list server/bounce/spam thing fixed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question LIST MOM???
Curly wrote: Bigger question is why do the postings now list ALL the email addresses subscribed to the list. That is a huge security problem. Kaleb wrote: What the heck are you talking about? I don't see all the email addresses listed in the postings. Beginning before 18:04 CTD - but after 16:30 CDT - each message has a whole stack of X-Assp-Intended-For: headers. There used to be only one - listing mercedes@okiebenz.com. Now there is one for what looks like every member of the list. This is in each and every post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
The list does send it back. Gmail just does not show your own messages Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gmail Question
Normal I think. IIRC Gmail filters you from your own messages. -Curt From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Greg Fiorentino greg.fiorent...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Gmail Question OK, so apparently my mail is now getting to the list, but why does the list not send them back to me as it did when I sent from another ISP? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] gmail question some of you might know the answer to
suppose you send someone a lot of emails every day and they claim to be never receiving 5% of them or so. now you don't know if they are really not getting them or just getting them and losing track of them. how does one set google mail up to get verfication of receipt of the emal? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gmail question some of you might know the answer to
Return Receipt is a function of the mail reader and is not supported via SMTP. Everyone disables Return Receipts by default nowdays (Outlook, Thunderbird). Most companies control the generation of Return Receipts via a group policy and disable it. The best you can do is run your own SMTP server and look at the logs to verify that the destination mailserver accepted the message. You won't be able to tell what it did with it. Some are set to generate a return email if it was blocked as spam or if the recipient could not be resolved, but you have no control over that. -Dave Walton On Nov 20, 2007 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suppose you send someone a lot of emails every day and they claim to be never receiving 5% of them or so. now you don't know if they are really not getting them or just getting them and losing track of them. how does one set google mail up to get verfication of receipt of the emal? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gmail question some of you might know the answer to
From Gmail Help search: GMail, like most other webmail services, does not offer any received receipt and read receipt features. Normally, standard email rules imply that if a Delivery Failure Notification has not been received, the message has been delivered to the intended recipient. Some email clients, like MS Outlook, offer a read receipt feature which can provide such notifications, provided that the recipient also uses the same email client and has enabled or allowed the receipt to be transmitted to the sender! In this case it is more of a worry as the sender will never know, if he has enabled the read receipt feature and does not receive one in return, whether the mail was (a) not received, (b) received but not read, (c) received and read but the receipt was disallowed by the recipient! So it is better to go with general email standards which, to prevent unnecessary mail traffic, imply that failure to receive any of the Delivery Status notifications (Failed, Delayed, etc.) means the message being successfully received by the recipient. Hope this helps. Regards, On Nov 20, 2007 7:49 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: suppose you send someone a lot of emails every day and they claim to be never receiving 5% of them or so. now you don't know if they are really not getting them or just getting them and losing track of them. how does one set google mail up to get verfication of receipt of the emal? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gmail question some of you might know the answer to
Well there are other ways to know if the email was opened. Google shows for example http://www.returnreceipt.com http://www.msgtag.com/Mail_Receipt_.html These use the feature called web bugs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_bug to let some server know when the mail was opened. Users with better security knowledge may prevent this from working. I suspect some of them likely exploit the poor security on windows which might let them run programs by just open the email. On Nov 20, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: suppose you send someone a lot of emails every day and they claim to be never receiving 5% of them or so. now you don't know if they are really not getting them or just getting them and losing track of them. how does one set google mail up to get verfication of receipt of the emal? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
