Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Great questions!  Here are the likely correct answers:

yes
no
no
no
no
no
no
maybe

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 6:41 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Dan The list Mom wrote:
>
> > ... in which it was delivered clearly was [political]. As a
> > result the list member who posted it has been placed on
> > moderation.
>
> *sigh*  Really?  Whatever  But if that triggers moderation
> status, there are a lot of others that should be too.  Just sayin'.
>
> > be sure to read it first and remove any political or
> > inflammatory content.
>
> Inflammatory content like W123s with stacks through the hood?
>
> Or mini-splits with refrigerant that could be contributing to
> global warming?
>
> Or green is a good color for a car?
>
> Or islands closing borders?
>
> Or C41 is easier than E6 processing?
>
> Or blaming drug use for nutty for sale postings?
>
> Or any Facebook link?
>
> If you have a standard - hold to it for everyone.  Probably just
> make all posts moderated...
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan The list Mom wrote:

> ... in which it was delivered clearly was [political]. As a
> result the list member who posted it has been placed on
> moderation.

*sigh*  Really?  Whatever  But if that triggers moderation
status, there are a lot of others that should be too.  Just sayin'.

> be sure to read it first and remove any political or
> inflammatory content.

Inflammatory content like W123s with stacks through the hood?

Or mini-splits with refrigerant that could be contributing to
global warming?

Or green is a good color for a car?

Or islands closing borders?

Or C41 is easier than E6 processing?

Or blaming drug use for nutty for sale postings?

Or any Facebook link?

If you have a standard - hold to it for everyone.  Probably just
make all posts moderated...

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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Maybe there can be a banned gun list? A lot of people like guns, but I fail
to see how they relate to diesel mercedes. Trying to be helpful.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 9:48 AM MG via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dan,
> really???
>
> Overreaction
>
> I'm with Meade.
>
> MG
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread MG via Mercedes

Dan,
really???

Overreaction

I'm with Meade.

MG

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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thank you mom

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 10:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> While the subject matter of this post was not political in it’s nature,
> the vehicle in which it was delivered clearly was. As a result the list
> member who posted it has been placed on moderation.
>
> This is a reminder to all that while topical posts are welcome, the
> vehicle in which they are delivered is unwelcome if it is political or
> inflammatory in nature. There have been numerous complaints from list
> members regarding the politicizing of subject matter in recent days, and as
> a result the List Mom will take a very strong position against such posts
> and the members who post them.
>
> Let’s stick to Mercedes subject matter whenever possible. If you’re going
> to post something topical, be sure to read it first and remove any
> political or inflammatory content. There will be no exceptions.
>
> Thank you,
>
> List Mom
>
>
>
> > On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
> > at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.
> > He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
> > were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
> > sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
> > and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
> > rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
> > home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
> > of him?
> >
> >
> > Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
> >
> >
> > Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability
> to drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus.
> Even gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase their first-ever gun
> in many places.
> >
> > Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun
> online. “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the
> incredible demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as you’ll
> see from the video below, even Californians are waiting in long lines at
> the gun shop!
> >
> > First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday,
> the FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by
> 300%. That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
> >
> > In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right now.
> But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three days to
> investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized to buy a gun
> or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been stretched out to “we’ll
> get back to you sometime in the future.”
> >
> > While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over
> the internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from the
> past week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47 states,
> excluding Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They describe
> demand as “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen previously.
> >
> > Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a
> typo. Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between
> 1,001 and 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are up
> 501 to 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
> >
> > States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and
> South Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a
> measly 100%. I guess they were ready in those states.
> >
> > And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
> >
> >
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I am a moderate, I drive firmly down the middle of the road

--FT

On 3/21/20 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
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Re: [MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Please moderate me for the duration of Curly's moderation.
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[MBZ] LIST MOM was OT: other effects of wuhan CV

2020-03-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
While the subject matter of this post was not political in it’s nature, the 
vehicle in which it was delivered clearly was. As a result the list member who 
posted it has been placed on moderation.

This is a reminder to all that while topical posts are welcome, the vehicle in 
which they are delivered is unwelcome if it is political or inflammatory in 
nature. There have been numerous complaints from list members regarding the 
politicizing of subject matter in recent days, and as a result the List Mom 
will take a very strong position against such posts and the members who post 
them.

Let’s stick to Mercedes subject matter whenever possible. If you’re going to 
post something topical, be sure to read it first and remove any political or 
inflammatory content. There will be no exceptions.

Thank you,

List Mom



> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I heard last friday that a recent USAF retiree friend, who is working
> at the sporting goods big box store none of us buy from in Houston.  
> He said he had sold 18 registered arms that day.   Saturday and Sunday
> were sales of 35each day.   I've not heard since then but I gather
> sales are still many times higher than normal.   I needed some caps
> and stopped in the local store Wed, and it was like a zoo, and the
> rack was getting bare.   See article below:  It says that in bernie's
> home state sales are 40 times normal!Think anyone there is scared
> of him?
> 
> 
> Chinese Virus a Better Gun Salesman than Barack Obama
> 
> 
> Well, we’ve finally found a salesman that topped Barack Obama’s ability to 
> drive Americans to their local gun shops: The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus. Even 
> gun-hating liberals are now lining up to purchase their first-ever gun in 
> many places.
> 
> Some are hilariously discovering that you cannot, in fact, buy a gun online. 
> “You mean… Chuck Schumer…/lied to me?!/” Here’s a roundup of the incredible 
> demand that Americans suddenly have for firearms. And as you’ll see from the 
> video below, even Californians are waiting in long lines at the gun shop!
> 
> First, gun sales have now officially doubled year-to-year. Last Monday, the 
> FBI reported that background checks on gun purchases have spiked by 300%. 
> That’s creating a backlog of NICS investigations.
> 
> In terms of gun buyers, if you’ve never had a problem with a background 
> check, you should be good to go if you try to purchase a firearm right now. 
> But… if a ‘hold’ is triggered, the FBI normally takes up to three days to 
> investigate and determine whether that purchaser is authorized to buy a gun 
> or not. The FBI now says that “three days” has been stretched out to “we’ll 
> get back to you sometime in the future.”
> 
> While you can’t buy firearms online, you can purchase ammunition over the 
> internet in many states. Ammo.com has released its statistics from the past 
> week, and it’s pretty impressive. The site ships ammo to 47 states, excluding 
> Alaska, Hawaii, Massachusetts and California. They describe demand as 
> “staggering” – like nothing they’ve ever seen previously.
> 
> Ammunition sales in Vermont and Delaware are up 4,000%. That’s not a typo. 
> Oklahoma, Louisiana and Mississippi sales have increased between 1,001 and 
> 2,000%. Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, Nebraska and Maine are up 501 to 
> 1,000%. Most other states are in the 101 to 500% increase range.
> 
> States that are buying the lowest amounts from Ammo.com are North and South 
> Dakota, and West Virginia, where sales have only increased by a measly 100%. 
> I guess they were ready in those states.
> 
> And after all is said and done, the Second Amendment does use the words 
> “necessary to the security of a free state!”
> 
> https://www.americangunnews.com/chinese-virus-a-better-gun-salesman-than-barack-obama/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Diesels put out less co2 than gas motors. That is the only reason they are
still sold in europe, because they have co2 emissions standards to comply
with. The CEO of Daimler has said that CO2 emissions are the reason diesels
will continue to be offered in the lineup for some time. So I dont think it
is true that diesels are blamed for climate change. And Mercedes is not
stopping diesel production due to climate concerns. Quite the opposite.

It has been suggested that this is the wrong list for climate change
discussion, and I agree. Climate change has nothing to do with why I am on
the list and sorting through this non-topical content is a waste of my
time, whether I agree with what is being posted or not. If I want to debate
that stuff, I will subscribe to a climate change list.

My $0.02

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 3:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes content.
> While having nothing to do with politics.
> It is:
> The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public has
> had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
> are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
> be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued into
> the whole "global warming argument"...
> The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of future
> designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
> shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
> "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
> forums.
>
> As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
> at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
> Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
> scientific investigation, it seems.
> Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was both
> flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better discussed
> elsewhere].
>
> Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
> what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them running
> and supported.
>
> Respectfully,
> G.Mann
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:24 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That would be an illegal kickback subject to RICO.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 3:13 PM Kaleb Striplin 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yea, which I should split 70/30 with poos.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Nov 12, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We need to start a Go Fund Me campaign to assure that Dan remains as
> > the
> > > > list dad.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>> I’m being preemptive. Don’t like it?
> > > >>> You’re welcome to take over the responsibilities of running the
> list.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ugh. No thanks.
> > > >>
> > > >> Rick
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:58:46 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Damn... I love this group... thanks for sharing and educating.  My
> personal goal to learn a bit more each day of living has been satisfied
> via this exchange...

Thank you.


> I would write more, but the sunshine is drifting on the driveway yet
> again

Some people have it rough!  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Damn... I love this group... thanks for sharing and educating.  My personal
goal to learn a bit more each day of living has been satisfied via this
exchange...

I would write more, but the sunshine is drifting on the driveway yet
again

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:56 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was being sarcastic. Sorry Craig.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.
> >
> > It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
> > the word correctly.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > > > germane
> > > >  adj.
> > > >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> > > >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> > > >  Closely akin; german.
> > > >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Germane
> > > >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> > > >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > > > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > > > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > > > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14
> hydride.
> > > >
> > > >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > > > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > > > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set
> the
> > > >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > > > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > > > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Germain
> > > > See also: germain and gèrmain
> > > >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > > > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > germain
> > > >English
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >  Obsolete form of germane.
> > > >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > > > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > > > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > > > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > > > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > > > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> > > >
> > > >French
> > > >  Etymology 1
> > > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural
> germains,
> > > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > > >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> > > >
> > > >  Etymology 2
> > > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> > > >  Adjective
> > > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural
> germains,
> > > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > > >1. Germanic, German
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > gèrmain
> > > >  Norman
> > > >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > > > germānus. Adjective
> > > >gèrmain m
> > > >1. (Jersey) german
> > > >  Derived terms
> > > >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I was being sarcastic. Sorry Craig.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 5:55 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.
>
> It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
> the word correctly.
>
> Craig
>
>
> > On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > > germane
> > >  adj.
> > >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> > >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> > >  Closely akin; german.
> > >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> > >
> > >
> > > Germane
> > >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> > >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> > >
> > >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> > >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> > >
> > >
> > > Germain
> > > See also: germain and gèrmain
> > >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> > >
> > >
> > > germain
> > >English
> > >  Adjective
> > >  Obsolete form of germane.
> > >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> > >
> > >French
> > >  Etymology 1
> > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> > >  Adjective
> > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> > >
> > >  Etymology 2
> > >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> > >  Adjective
> > >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> > >  feminine plural germaines)
> > >1. Germanic, German
> > >
> > >
> > > gèrmain
> > >  Norman
> > >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > > germānus. Adjective
> > >gèrmain m
> > >1. (Jersey) german
> > >  Derived terms
> > >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
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2019-11-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:47:07 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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> Not that it wasn't interesting.

Thanks. Having had friends who worked in the semiconductor industry,
I had heard of silane and germane and their extreme toxicity.


Craig

> On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > germane
> >  adj.
> >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> >  Closely akin; german.
> >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> >
> >
> > Germane
> >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> >
> >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> >
> >
> > Germain
> > See also: germain and gèrmain
> >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> >
> >
> > germain
> >English
> >  Adjective
> >  Obsolete form of germane.
> >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> >
> >French
> >  Etymology 1
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> >
> >  Etymology 2
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. Germanic, German
> >
> >
> > gèrmain
> >  Norman
> >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > germānus. Adjective
> >gèrmain m
> >1. (Jersey) german
> >  Derived terms
> >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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2019-11-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:45:45 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.

It's just my research (Ph.D.) background, plus I didn't know how to spell
the word correctly.

Craig

 
> On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Probably more germain than germane.
> > germane
> >  adj.
> >  Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
> >   discussion. synonym: relevant.
> >  Closely akin; german.
> >  Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.
> >
> >
> > Germane
> >  Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
> >  germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium
> > hydride and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the
> > related compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It
> > burns in air to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.
> >
> >  Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a
> > highly toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental
> > Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
> >  occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an
> > 8-hour time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure
> > is 622 ppm [0.0622%].
> >
> >
> > Germain
> > See also: germain and gèrmain
> >  Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical
> > with the French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.
> >
> >
> > germain
> >English
> >  Adjective
> >  Obsolete form of germane.
> >Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913
> > edition of Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and
> > hence in the public domain. The imported definitions may be
> > significantly out of date, and any more recent senses may be
> > completely missing. (See the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised
> > Unabridged Dictionary, G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)
> >
> >French
> >  Etymology 1
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. german (having the same mother and father)
> >
> >  Etymology 2
> >From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
> >  Adjective
> >germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
> >  feminine plural germaines)
> >1. Germanic, German
> >
> >
> > gèrmain
> >  Norman
> >Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin
> > germānus. Adjective
> >gèrmain m
> >1. (Jersey) german
> >  Derived terms
> >couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Not that it wasn't interesting.

Randy

On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:


Probably more germain than germane.

germane
 adj.
 Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
  discussion. synonym: relevant.
 Closely akin; german.
 Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
 Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
 germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
 and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
 compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
 to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

 Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
 toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
 Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
 occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
 time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
 622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
 Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
   French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.


germain
   English
 Adjective
 Obsolete form of germane.
   Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
   Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
   the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
   of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
   the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
   G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

   French
 Etymology 1
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. german (having the same mother and father)

 Etymology 2
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
 Norman
   Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   gèrmain m
   1. (Jersey) german
 Derived terms
   couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Now, you are getting carried away. We all knew what he meant.

Randy


On 13/11/2019 4:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:


Probably more germain than germane.

germane
 adj.
 Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
  discussion. synonym: relevant.
 Closely akin; german.
 Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
 Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
 germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
 and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
 compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
 to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

 Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
 toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
 Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
 occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
 time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
 622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
 Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
   French one; or from an ethnic term for a German.


germain
   English
 Adjective
 Obsolete form of germane.
   Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
   Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
   the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
   of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
   the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
   G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

   French
 Etymology 1
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. german (having the same mother and father)

 Etymology 2
   From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
 Adjective
   germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
 feminine plural germaines)
   1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
 Norman
   Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
 Adjective
   gèrmain m
   1. (Jersey) german
 Derived terms
   couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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2019-11-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:27:23 -0500 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Probably more germain than germane.

germane
adj.
Related to a matter at hand, especially to a subject under
 discussion. synonym: relevant.
Closely akin; german.
Hence Bearing a close relation; relevant; pertinent.


Germane
Germane is the chemical compound with the formula GeH4, and the
germanium analogue of methane. It is the simplest germanium hydride
and one of the most useful compounds of germanium. Like the related
compounds silane and methane, germane is tetrahedral. It burns in air
to produce GeO2 and water. Germane is a group 14 hydride.

Germane is a highly flammable, potentially pyrophoric, and a highly
toxic gas. In 1970, the American Conference of Governmental Industrial
Hygienists (ACGIH) published the latest changes and set the
occupational exposure threshold limit value at 0.2 ppm for an 8-hour
time weighted average. The LC50 for rats at 1 hour of exposure is
622 ppm [0.0622%].


Germain
See also: germain and gèrmain
Etymology A patronymic from a medieval given name, identical with the
  French one; or from an ethnic term for a German. 


germain
  English
Adjective
Obsolete form of germane.
  Part or all of this entry has been imported from the 1913 edition of
  Webster’s Dictionary, which is now free of copyright and hence in
  the public domain. The imported definitions may be significantly out
  of date, and any more recent senses may be completely missing. (See
  the entry for germain in Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary,
  G. & C. Merriam, 1913.)

  French
Etymology 1
  From Old French, borrowed from Latin germānus.
Adjective
  germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
feminine plural germaines)
  1. german (having the same mother and father)

Etymology 2
  From Old French, borrowed from Latin Germānus.
Adjective
  germain (feminine singular germaine, masculine plural germains,
feminine plural germaines)
  1. Germanic, German


gèrmain
Norman
  Etymology  From Old French germain, borrowed from Latin germānus.
Adjective
  gèrmain m
  1. (Jersey) german
Derived terms
  couôsîn gèrmain (“first cousin”)

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2019-11-13 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Guenther Schwab, an Austrian, aligned himself with a group that best matched 
his conservationist beliefs in the 1920’s.  Deep into blood and soil being 
bonded and radical environmental thought.  He wrote a book in 1958, "Dance with 
the Devil”.  It preached about rising CO2 and became the guide book for the 
Climate Change socialists.  An inconvenient truth is that a TN senator became 
enthralled by his theories, the same as the guy who wrote a book about “His 
Struggles”, 80 years before.  There were many other fellow travelers over the 
last century and more espousing radical ideals, Marx, Lenin, and bleating sheep 
following along.  Much like the coal rollers with holes in their hoods that 
make Pierre unhappy

clay

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 6:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Discussions on climate change are indirectly automotive in nature as cars are 
> blamed for it. The question I keep asking those who preach that climate 
> change is man-made is why are the polar ice caps on Mars melting? I never get 
> an answer. As far as I’m concerned, melting Martian polar ice caps is all the 
> evidence I need to believe that man-made climate change is a complete and 
> utter sham.


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2019-11-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Probably more germain than germane.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 10:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Germain to a German list!
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/13/19 1:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
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2019-11-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Germain to a German list!

--FT

On 11/13/19 1:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list. 


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2019-11-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Discussions on climate change are indirectly automotive in nature as cars are 
blamed for it. The question I keep asking those who preach that climate change 
is man-made is why are the polar ice caps on Mars melting? I never get an 
answer. As far as I’m concerned, melting Martian polar ice caps is all the 
evidence I need to believe that man-made climate change is a complete and utter 
sham.

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> 
> Germane.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:24 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
>> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 5:24 PM:
>>> I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes
>> content.
>>> While having nothing to do with politics.
>>> It is:
>>> The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public
>> has
>>> had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
>>> are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
>>> be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued
>> into
>>> the whole "global warming argument"...
>>> The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of
>> future
>>> designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
>>> shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
>>> "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
>>> forums.
>>> 
>>> As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
>>> at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
>>> Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
>>> scientific investigation, it seems.
>>> Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was
>> both
>>> flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better
>> discussed
>>> elsewhere].
>>> 
>>> Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
>>> what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them
>> running
>>> and supported.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> G.Mann
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Germane.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:24 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 5:24 PM:
> > I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes
> content.
> > While having nothing to do with politics.
> > It is:
> > The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public
> has
> > had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
> > are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
> > be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued
> into
> > the whole "global warming argument"...
> > The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of
> future
> > designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
> > shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
> > "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
> > forums.
> >
> > As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
> > at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
> > Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
> > scientific investigation, it seems.
> > Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was
> both
> > flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better
> discussed
> > elsewhere].
> >
> > Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
> > what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them
> running
> > and supported.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > G.Mann
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Well said Herr Mann.   And exactly WHY it IS germain to this list.

G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 11/12/19 5:24 PM:

I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes content.
While having nothing to do with politics.
It is:
The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public has
had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued into
the whole "global warming argument"...
The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of future
designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
"global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
forums.

As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
scientific investigation, it seems.
Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was both
flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better discussed
elsewhere].

Regardless, right or wrong, fact or fiction, it has had a real impact on
what we are about here, which is Mercedes cars and how to keep them running
and supported.

Respectfully,
G.Mann




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Re: [MBZ] List Mom

2019-11-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Still the wrong list. Remember Dr. BOOTH.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 6:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would like to make an "al bore" comment that does have Mercedes content.
> While having nothing to do with politics.
> It is:
> The whole specter of "global warming" as it has been sold to the public has
> had a huge impact on how Diesel engines, thus Mercedes cars, has been and
> are now perceived as in "Diesels pollute" and "It smells bad thus it must
> be spewing toxic waste into the air" arguments.. which are then segued into
> the whole "global warming argument"...
> The result has been a huge downturn in Mercedes Diesel production of future
> designs, less support for older Mercedes in the way of parts and repair
> shops, and increased cost for both... all as the result of the whole
> "global warming" arguments made by influential individuals in the public
> forums.
>
> As intelligent people, regardless of political opinions held, we all look
> at facts more than fantasy, and the public arguments made by those of the
> Al Gore persuasion are now failing the fact check criteria of sound
> scientific investigation, it seems.
> Strong evidence has been brought forward the foundational premise was both
> flawed, and embellished [here stands controversy which is better discussed
> elsewhere].
>
> Regardless, right or wrong, fact or f