Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I think all three missile types would guide on that target and their warheads would function making multiple holes in the Hellcat. The unknown is the vulnerability of the Hellcat. I suspect the pilot was the largest critical thing in that aircraft, which is not a factor here. So it depends on

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-17 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
] The Battle of Palmdale Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern California and missed. Drone? Radio controlled drone? 60 years ago? ...ah... the age of technology. Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something... mao When did

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-17 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Yes, but how well could they do against an unmanned Hellcat drone? My money's on the Grumman. ;D -MMM- On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Current F-14/15/16/18 US fighters have internal 20mm guns plus three types of guided air-to-air

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:57 AM To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern California and missed. https

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern California and missed. Drone? Radio controlled drone? 60 years ago? ...ah... the age of technology. Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something... mao When did Mitch write that? I have

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Current F-14/15/16/18 US fighters have internal 20mm guns plus three types of guided air-to-air missiles: AIM-9 short-range heat-seeking missiles, AIM-7 long-range semi-active radar-guided missiles, and AMRAAM medium-range multi-mode radar/inertial missiles. There are several variants of each

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sounds like the drones were abut as reliable as the rockets they attempted to shoot it down with… Dan On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Jindivik anyone? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:44:08 -0500 To: mi...@mitchellhaley.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: maontin@gmail.com Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Mitch wrote: On August 16, 1956 Air Force fighters attacked a runaway Hellcat over southern California and missed. Drone? Radio controlled drone? 60 years ago? ...ah... the age of technology. Too bad drones today are not as reliable, or something... mao ___

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On August 16, 2015 at 2:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds like the drones were abut as reliable as the rockets they attempted to shoot it down with… Imagine if it were a manned, armed MiG taking evasive action on its way to attack something important.

Re: [MBZ] The Battle of Palmdale

2015-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think all current fighters have both guns and missiles? I know the F/A-18 has both. F-4 Phantom was another missiles only fighter, and I think engagements in Mig alley convinced fighter designers that missiles are nice, but guns are required. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300