Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D manual needs engine - $2,800

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If anyone is interested, I have an engine, complete, with all accessories
and automatic transmission, in a crate. Make offer, you pay shipping FOB
Phoenix, AZ..  As removed, with speedo in the crate, 124,000 miles..

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> Silly price for a car without an engine though if you already had a 617
> and necessary bits sitting around you might be able to flip the result for
> 2x that or more.
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D - 130k miles - $5,500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Could probably talk him down to $4500 due to 1K worth of work needed to
make it perfect.

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> You could probably come close to doubling your money flipping this on BaT
> these days
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D manny

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

PW!  What can go wrong with a manual sunroof?

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I went ahead and ordered some from the Woolies website.  I’ll post about them 
after they arrive. 
Thanks for the help 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not off the top of my head. Last time I got some I got it from my Turkish 
> buddy on eBay. I think a set of four was $100 shipped.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
>> Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
>> I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct 
>> profile?
>> 
>> https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
>>> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>>> 
>>> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. 
>>> What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way 
>>> for years.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
 window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
 spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
 solutions?
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Oh no the Toiks!

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> On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not off the top of my head. Last time I got some I got it from my Turkish 
> buddy on eBay. I think a set of four was $100 shipped.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
>> Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
>> I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct 
>> profile?
>> 
>> https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
>>> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>>> 
>>> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. 
>>> What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way 
>>> for years.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
 window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
 spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
 solutions?
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not off the top of my head. Last time I got some I got it from my Turkish buddy 
on eBay. I think a set of four was $100 shipped.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
> Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
> I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct 
> profile?
> 
> https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
>> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>> 
>> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
>> you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
>> years.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
>>> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
>>> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
>>> solutions?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct profile?

https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip

Thanks,
Mike




> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
> 
> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
> you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
> years.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
>> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
>> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
>> solutions?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

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Do NOT buy the cheapo non OEM window scrapers!  They don't  work. I  spring
for the OEMs from Tom and they work great - well worth it.  Request the
club discount.

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> Yes & my MB Indy says you can piece it together -this after I bought long
> pieces for my big 123 300 CD doors. Got in England. Not cheap. Ecklers
> Performance4Benz had some. Some same for R107 & 126.
>
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> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 7:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the
> > window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
> >
> > If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe.
> > What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that
> way
> > for years.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer
> > window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see
> > spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other
> > solutions?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Michael E. Esh
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes & my MB Indy says you can piece it together -this after I bought long
pieces for my big 123 300 CD doors. Got in England. Not cheap. Ecklers
Performance4Benz had some. Some same for R107 & 126.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 7:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the
> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>
> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe.
> What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way
> for years.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer
> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see
> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other
> solutions?
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
> > Michael E. Esh
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the window 
that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?

If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
years.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer window 
> wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see spending that 
> much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other solutions?
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As we say at work, that would be “Dick move #12”. (Just pick a random number.)

-D


> On May 10, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> $1400 if he gets back to you. He’ll take it. 
> 
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>> On May 10, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Uh, that was my offer. $1600.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then you become the SOB who says the offer is off the table and is now 
>>> $1600.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> Dad came back today and asked if I could raise my offer to $2k. I told him 
>>> I was going to have to pass, but to give my best wishes to the graduate and 
>>> good luck with the sale.
>>> 
>>> I’m betting I’ll hear back from them in the near future….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

$1400 if he gets back to you. He’ll take it. 

--FT
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> On May 10, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Uh, that was my offer. $1600.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Then you become the SOB who says the offer is off the table and is now $1600.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> Dad came back today and asked if I could raise my offer to $2k. I told him I 
>> was going to have to pass, but to give my best wishes to the graduate and 
>> good luck with the sale.
>> 
>> I’m betting I’ll hear back from them in the near future….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Uh, that was my offer. $1600.

-D


> On May 10, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> Then you become the SOB who says the offer is off the table and is now $1600.
> 
> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Dad came back today and asked if I could raise my offer to $2k. I told him I 
> was going to have to pass, but to give my best wishes to the graduate and 
> good luck with the sale.
> 
> I’m betting I’ll hear back from them in the near future….
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Then you become the SOB who says the offer is off the table and is now
$1600.

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 5:17 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Dad came back today and asked if I could raise my offer to $2k. I told him
> I was going to have to pass, but to give my best wishes to the graduate and
> good luck with the sale.
>
> I’m betting I’ll hear back from them in the near future….
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dad came back today and asked if I could raise my offer to $2k. I told him I 
was going to have to pass, but to give my best wishes to the graduate and good 
luck with the sale.

I’m betting I’ll hear back from them in the near future….

-D



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Eh, I totally understand. If I can score it for $1600 it’s worth it despite the 
dings. I’ll either clean it up and flip it or just keep it as a backup car.  
It’s amazingly clean and should Martha up really, really well.

Either that or someone can find me a manual transmission and all the three 
pedal goodies necessary and I’ll swap out the slushbox.

-D


> On May 9, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What Andrew said. The automatic is a major strike against it but if it were a 
> cool color like green or orange or something then ok. The boring beige is the 
> final nail in the undesirable coffin.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 9, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping
>> potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing,
>>> even from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant
>>> to even take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost
>>> all interest in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic
>>> with modern AC, stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this
>>> point in her life I’m guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the
>>> hassle of getting this thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better
>>> price.
>>> 
>>> It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although there
>>> were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system
>>> sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow plug
>>> light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good
>>> Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the
>>> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was good
>>> that I could see.
>>> 
>>> I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended
>>> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and
>>> sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.
>>> I'm guessing you will be "successful."
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Including the Martha premium, of course.
> 
> 
> 
> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one
>>> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely
>>> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do
>>> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent
>>> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and
>>> fixing up an old car
> 
> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on
>>> Saturday $1600 richer
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are
>>> done with it.
>> 
>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
>>> The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600.
>>> They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>>> 
>>> Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I would like it but I am boring.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 9:33 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What Andrew said. The automatic is a major strike against it but if it
> were a cool color like green or orange or something then ok. The boring
> beige is the final nail in the undesirable coffin.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 9, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping
> > potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.
> >
> > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing,
> >> even from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be
> reluctant
> >> to even take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost
> >> all interest in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the
> Civic
> >> with modern AC, stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this
> >> point in her life I’m guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the
> >> hassle of getting this thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better
> >> price.
> >>
> >> It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although
> there
> >> were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system
> >> sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow
> plug
> >> light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good
> >> Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the
> >> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was
> good
> >> that I could see.
> >>
> >> I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended
> >> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and
> >> sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.
> >> I'm guessing you will be "successful."
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
>  On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>  Including the Martha premium, of course.
> 
>  
> 
>  Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one
> >> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely
> >> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to
> do
> >> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a
> recent
> >> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning
> and
> >> fixing up an old car
> 
>  We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on
> >> Saturday $1600 richer
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are
> >> done with it.
> >
> > Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
> >> The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600.
> >> They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
> >>
> >> Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

What Andrew said. The automatic is a major strike against it but if it were a 
cool color like green or orange or something then ok. The boring beige is the 
final nail in the undesirable coffin.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping
> potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing,
>> even from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant
>> to even take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost
>> all interest in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic
>> with modern AC, stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this
>> point in her life I’m guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the
>> hassle of getting this thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better
>> price.
>> 
>> It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although there
>> were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system
>> sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow plug
>> light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good
>> Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the
>> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was good
>> that I could see.
>> 
>> I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended
>> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and
>> sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.
>> I'm guessing you will be "successful."
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
 Including the Martha premium, of course.
 
 
 
 Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one
>> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely
>> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do
>> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent
>> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and
>> fixing up an old car
 
 We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on
>> Saturday $1600 richer
 
 -D
 
> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are
>> done with it.
> 
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
>> The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600.
>> They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
>> 
>> 
>> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>> 
>> Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We all want to disembowel that aged, vulerable 240D.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s not in the driveway yet.
>
> You guys are like a bunch of jackals circling a fresh kill…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 9, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping
> potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.
> >
> > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing,
> even from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant
> to even take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost
> all interest in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic
> with modern AC, stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this
> point in her life I’m guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the
> hassle of getting this thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better
> price.
> >
> > It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although
> there were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum
> system sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no
> glow plug light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a
> good Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the
> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was good
> that I could see.
> >
> > I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended
> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
> >
> >
> > > On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and
> sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.
> I'm guessing you will be "successful."
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Including the Martha premium, of course.
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>
> > >> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the
> one handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely
> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do
> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent
> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and
> fixing up an old car
> > >>
> > >> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on
> Saturday $1600 richer
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are
> done with it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
> >  The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600.
> They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
> > 
> > 
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
> <
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
> >
> > 
> >  Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
> > 
> >  -D
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s not in the driveway yet.

You guys are like a bunch of jackals circling a fresh kill…

-D


> On May 9, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping 
> potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing, even 
> from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant to even 
> take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost all interest 
> in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic with modern AC, 
> stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this point in her life I’m 
> guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the hassle of getting this 
> thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better price.
> 
> It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although there 
> were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system 
> sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow plug 
> light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good 
> Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the 
> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was good 
> that I could see.
> 
> I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended 
> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
> 
> 
> > On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and sits 
> > and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.  I'm 
> > guessing you will be "successful."
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Including the Martha premium, of course.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one 
> >> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely 
> >> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do 
> >> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent 
> >> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning 
> >> and fixing up an old car
> >> 
> >> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on Saturday 
> >> $1600 richer
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done 
> >>> with it.
> >>> 
> >>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
>  The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. 
>  They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
>  
>  https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>   
>  
>  
>  Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
>  
>  -D
>  
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This car is beneath you, Dan.  No scarcity/no pizazz/no retail flipping
potential.  And neither Dimitri nor I like the color.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing,
> even from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant
> to even take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost
> all interest in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic
> with modern AC, stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this
> point in her life I’m guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the
> hassle of getting this thing cleaned up and presentable to get a better
> price.
>
> It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although there
> were records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system
> sorted, the central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow plug
> light), the AC charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good
> Martha’ing to make it nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the
> driveline seemed tight when driving and all the suspension rubber was good
> that I could see.
>
> I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended
> offer $200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.
>
>
> > On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and
> sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.
> I'm guessing you will be "successful."
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Including the Martha premium, of course.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one
> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely
> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do
> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent
> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and
> fixing up an old car
> >>
> >> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on
> Saturday $1600 richer
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are
> done with it.
> >>>
> >>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
>  The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600.
> They’re supposed to get back to me later today.
> 
> 
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
> 
>  Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just to elaborate, Dad appeared to be totally hands-off on this thing, even 
from a driving standpoint. He is a VW guy and seemed to be reluctant to even 
take a pointed stick to the thing. I’m pretty sure daughter lost all interest 
in driving a “classic” car after her first drive in the Civic with modern AC, 
stereo and a heck of a lot better performance. At this point in her life I’m 
guessing she’s not going to want to deal with the hassle of getting this thing 
cleaned up and presentable to get a better price.

It needs some general maintenance like fluids and filters, although there were 
records to show it had been maintained properly, the vacuum system sorted, the 
central locking sorted, possibly some glow plugs (no glow plug light), the AC 
charged up and hit with a can of sealant, and a good Martha’ing to make it 
nice. I didn't get completely under it, but the driveline seemed tight when 
driving and all the suspension rubber was good that I could see.

I’m sort of ambivalent about the car, which is why I dropped my intended offer 
$200. I figure if I can get it for this, fine, if not, move on.


> On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and sits 
> and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.  I'm 
> guessing you will be "successful."
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Including the Martha premium, of course.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one 
>> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely 
>> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do 
>> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent 
>> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and 
>> fixing up an old car
>> 
>> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on Saturday 
>> $1600 richer
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
 The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re 
 supposed to get back to me later today.
 
 https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
 
 Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pretty much this.

-D

> On May 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and sits 
> and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her either.  I'm 
> guessing you will be "successful."
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Including the Martha premium, of course.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one 
>> handling the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely 
>> sorted and cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do 
>> it she’s far more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent 
>> college grad has far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and 
>> fixing up an old car
>> 
>> We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on Saturday 
>> $1600 richer
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done 
>>> with it.
>>> 
>>> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
 The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re 
 supposed to get back to me later today.
 
 https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
 
 Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
 
 -D
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah a kid like that would see a nice windfall, otherwise it sits and 
sits and who knows, and daddy probably doesn't want to stake her 
either.  I'm guessing you will be "successful."


--FT

On 5/9/19 3:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Including the Martha premium, of course.



Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one handling 
the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely sorted and 
cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do it she’s far 
more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent college grad has 
far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and fixing up an old 
car

We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on Saturday $1600 
richer

-D


On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done with it.

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:

The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re 
supposed to get back to me later today.

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html

Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?

-D




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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Including the Martha premium, of course.



Owner is a college girl who graduates this weekend, her dad is the one handling 
the sale. I played up the “It’s worth $$2500-$3000 completely sorted and 
cleaned up, if she wants to devote the time and resources to do it she’s far 
more likely to get that”  approach, fully expecting a recent college grad has 
far more important things on her mind besides cleaning and fixing up an old 
car

We’ll see. Hopefully, she just wants to walk across the stage on Saturday $1600 
richer

-D

> On May 9, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done with 
> it.
> 
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:
>> The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re 
>> supposed to get back to me later today.
>> 
>> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>> 
>> Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Assuming you get it I call right of first refusal when you are done 
with it.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/9/19 1:51 PM:

The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re 
supposed to get back to me later today.

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html

Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?

-D





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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Good luck.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, May 9, 2019, 2:51 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The one I looked at on Monday - made the owner an offer of $1600. They’re
> supposed to get back to me later today.
>
>
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/bradenton-1983-mercedes-240d/6880347647.html
>
> Did I mention they had records all the way back to the purchase?
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Last time I did my 126 ball joints I bought TRW ball joints from Hursty (post 
Rusty).  I can't say if they were good quality.  
I also bought one of those "pipe style" tools on eBay to press the new BJ into 
the knuckle.  The pipe tool costs about $100 (vs $300+ for the MBZ special 
tool) and works on 123s and 126s .  It was actually not a bad kit:, for example"
(https://www.ebay.com/itm/254119188640?hash=item3b2aaf18a0:g:CCQAAOxyd5tRyNJl )
The "pipe kit" works fine but you have to totally remove the knuckle from the 
car and you need an arbor press.

Seriously, If you have a nearby shop with the right tools (either type) I would 
just carry the bare knuckles and BJs to them.  I hear it is possible to use a 
standard ball joint tool but I think it's also possible to screw it up

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> Michael Esh via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 1:41 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Michael Esh 
> Subject: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint
> 
> Any thoughts on a recommended brand for lower ball joints on my 240D?
> There is a large amount of play and nasty noises coming from both of them.
> Has anyone replaced them using the “loaner press” from the local auto parts
> store?  I’m going to try and do the repair myself.  I’ve watched all videos on
> YouTube and it looks like a pretty straight forward job. I have a torch, a big
> hammer and a local garage that will help me if needed.
> 
> Everything else on front suspension feels tight and looks like it has been
> replaced. It has 210,000 miles on it.
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

tristar,
febi/bilstein
I've used Moog.  probably others I've forgotten.


Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote on 3/9/19 12:40 PM:

Any thoughts on a recommended brand for lower ball joints on my 240D? There is 
a large amount of play and nasty noises coming from both of them.  Has anyone 
replaced them using the “loaner press” from the local auto parts store?  I’m 
going to try and do the repair myself.  I’ve watched all videos on YouTube and 
it looks like a pretty straight forward job. I have a torch, a big hammer and a 
local garage that will help me if needed.

Everything else on front suspension feels tight and looks like it has been 
replaced. It has 210,000 miles on it.
Thanks,
Mike





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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Coming out is no problem, but we had to modify a ball joint press to get them 
in.  A big vise and a large (6 or 8 lb) hammer will drive them out just fine.

Going back in, you will need a press that fits inside the knuckle, and most of 
them are too large.  We ground down a cheap one, then had to weld plates on the 
sides to keep it from bending.

Needless to say, you won't want to grind on a loaner tool

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Floyd!  I got the drivers side apart and used a little heat from a MAPS 
torch and several swings of the hammer and it is out.  I will order the 
Lemorder ball joints today.

While going through my parts drawer I came across a new engine mount which 
prompted me to look at the ones in the car.  I noticed the ones in the car 
looked clean and new but appear to be flattened out.  There is no oil or 
anything on either one of them. The new mount that is out of the car sits up at 
least 3/4 of an inch higher than the ones installed in the car.  And the engine 
acts like it needs new mounts as there is what sounds like metal to metal noise 
and vibration when the car is lower idle speeds.  The noise goes away if I rev 
the engine a little.
I’m guessing it is not normal for them to be that depressed after installation 
and someone probably put in some cheaper brand when they replaced them.  I 
think I will go ahead replace those as well.  Is Lemforder the correct brand of 
engine mounts to go with?



> On Mar 9, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Find a Benz garage with the proper press and pay them the $20 to do it.  
> You'll be happy you did.  Lemforder BJs, cheaper types can break the collar 
> even with the proper press, and they might even damage the press.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/9/19 1:40 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:
>> Any thoughts on a recommended brand for lower ball joints on my 240D? There 
>> is a large amount of play and nasty noises coming from both of them.  Has 
>> anyone replaced them using the “loaner press” from the local auto parts 
>> store?  I’m going to try and do the repair myself.  I’ve watched all videos 
>> on YouTube and it looks like a pretty straight forward job. I have a torch, 
>> a big hammer and a local garage that will help me if needed.
>> 
>> Everything else on front suspension feels tight and looks like it has been 
>> replaced. It has 210,000 miles on it.
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Get genuine MB joints.  They’re not very expensive and the best quality

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 1:41 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Any thoughts on a recommended brand for lower ball joints on my 240D?
> There is a large amount of play and nasty noises coming from both of them.
> Has anyone replaced them using the “loaner press” from the local auto parts
> store?  I’m going to try and do the repair myself.  I’ve watched all videos
> on YouTube and it looks like a pretty straight forward job. I have a torch,
> a big hammer and a local garage that will help me if needed.
>
> Everything else on front suspension feels tight and looks like it has been
> replaced. It has 210,000 miles on it.
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Lower Ball Joint

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Find a Benz garage with the proper press and pay them the $20 to do it.  
You'll be happy you did.  Lemforder BJs, cheaper types can break the 
collar even with the proper press, and they might even damage the press.


--FT

On 3/9/19 1:40 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:

Any thoughts on a recommended brand for lower ball joints on my 240D? There is 
a large amount of play and nasty noises coming from both of them.  Has anyone 
replaced them using the “loaner press” from the local auto parts store?  I’m 
going to try and do the repair myself.  I’ve watched all videos on YouTube and 
it looks like a pretty straight forward job. I have a torch, a big hammer and a 
local garage that will help me if needed.

Everything else on front suspension feels tight and looks like it has been 
replaced. It has 210,000 miles on it.
Thanks,
Mike



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, which means the cruise control won't work if there is no signal from that 
sensor,
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'95 E300

On December 7, 2018 5:04:20 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>There is a Hall effect sensor on the back of the speedo housing that
>generates the signal for the cruise control, I believe.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:31 AM, fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Michael wrote:
>> 
>>> 3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up
>>> at the transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.
>> 
>> I have a nail I hammered square that fits the speedometer drive.
>> With the nail chucked in a drill spinning "reverse" the
>> speedometer should show forward speed.
>> 
>>> Cruise is not working. Will cruise control function on this car
>>> if all else is correct but speedometer is not functioning?
>>> Thanks, Mike
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure the spinning of the speedometer is what drives the
>> cruise control.
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There is a Hall effect sensor on the back of the speedo housing that generates 
the signal for the cruise control, I believe.

-D


> On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:31 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> Michael wrote:
> 
>> 3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up
>> at the transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.
> 
> I have a nail I hammered square that fits the speedometer drive.
> With the nail chucked in a drill spinning "reverse" the
> speedometer should show forward speed.
> 
>> Cruise is not working. Will cruise control function on this car
>> if all else is correct but speedometer is not functioning?
>> Thanks, Mike
> 
> I'm pretty sure the spinning of the speedometer is what drives the
> cruise control.
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Michael wrote:

> 3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up
> at the transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.

I have a nail I hammered square that fits the speedometer drive.
With the nail chucked in a drill spinning "reverse" the
speedometer should show forward speed.

>  Cruise is not working. Will cruise control function on this car
> if all else is correct but speedometer is not functioning?
> Thanks, Mike

I'm pretty sure the spinning of the speedometer is what drives the
cruise control.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 20:27:02 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Not sure if 83 has vacuum or Lektronik CC.   If vacuum, it won't work 
> without the speedo.  I know my 81 is vacuum, and SDLs and 124 are 
> Lektronik.   Somewhere inbetween they switched over, but since 123 was 
> near EOPL, they may have just kept the vacuum for all the 123s, and 
> especially the 240D, since it reached EOPL a couple years before the 
> rest of the 123s.

Nope. Our '82 240D had an electric cruise control actuator.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

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> Somewhere in between [81 and 83] they switched over, but since 123 was near 
> EOPL, they may have just kept the vacuum for all the 123s...

They did not.  The Chicken Wagon, 1983 300D, has a servomotor cruise control.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

For your trans: 
http://mercedestransmission.com/AutomaticTransmissionInformation.html
Read the Diesel link and the 722.3 link.   It that does not lead you to 
the fix, then call and ask sun valley.


I can tell you that with no vacuum the shifts are near redline and very 
harsh.  Too much vacuum leads to early mushy, shifts.


Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/6/18 5:20 PM:

1.  Brakes are now all in good repair and stopping me safely.

2.  Trying to sort out vacuum issues.   A. Repaired two door lock lines that 
were broken at the drivers side door.
B. Can’t get transmission to shift properly.  Shifts way to soon unless I shift 
manually. I’m getting about 20 off the large vacuum line going to the booster.  
Eliminated vacuum to the transmission and shift timing was better but harsher 
and it won’t shift into 4th gear at all.   Does anyone know what vacuum number 
is supposed to be at the transmission, before the modulator but after the 
restrictor?

Does anyone have vacuum diagram for the 83 240D?

3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up at the 
transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.  Cruise is not working. Will 
cruise control function on this car if all else is correct but speedometer is 
not functioning?
Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not sure if 83 has vacuum or Lektronik CC.   If vacuum, it won't work 
without the speedo.  I know my 81 is vacuum, and SDLs and 124 are 
Lektronik.   Somewhere inbetween they switched over, but since 123 was 
near EOPL, they may have just kept the vacuum for all the 123s, and 
especially the 240D, since it reached EOPL a couple years before the 
rest of the 123s.


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 12/6/18 5:46 PM:

U probably need a cruise amplifier or rebuild, but fix the speedometer
first. Im not sure if the amp takes the signal from the cluster or from the
drivetrain sensor directly on that car.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 3:21 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes 
1.  Brakes are now all in good repair and stopping me safely.

2.  Trying to sort out vacuum issues.   A. Repaired two door lock lines
that were broken at the drivers side door.
B. Can’t get transmission to shift properly.  Shifts way to soon unless I
shift manually. I’m getting about 20 off the large vacuum line going to the
booster.  Eliminated vacuum to the transmission and shift timing was better
but harsher and it won’t shift into 4th gear at all.   Does anyone know
what vacuum number is supposed to be at the transmission, before the
modulator but after the restrictor?

Does anyone have vacuum diagram for the 83 240D?

3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up at the
transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.  Cruise is not working.
Will cruise control function on this car if all else is correct but
speedometer is not functioning?
Thanks,
Mike

Michael E. Esh





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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 15:46:04 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> U probably need a cruise amplifier or rebuild, but fix the speedometer
> first. Im not sure if the amp takes the signal from the cluster or from
> the drivetrain sensor directly on that car.

The pickup comes off the back of the speedometer.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

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Pretty sure the cruise taps the speedo on that car.  Our '76 SL had an inline 
(cable) sender,
but I think that disappeared shortly after then.  Fix speedo, then worry about 
cruise.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

U probably need a cruise amplifier or rebuild, but fix the speedometer
first. Im not sure if the amp takes the signal from the cluster or from the
drivetrain sensor directly on that car.

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 3:21 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes  1.  Brakes are now all in good repair and stopping me safely.
>
> 2.  Trying to sort out vacuum issues.   A. Repaired two door lock lines
> that were broken at the drivers side door.
> B. Can’t get transmission to shift properly.  Shifts way to soon unless I
> shift manually. I’m getting about 20 off the large vacuum line going to the
> booster.  Eliminated vacuum to the transmission and shift timing was better
> but harsher and it won’t shift into 4th gear at all.   Does anyone know
> what vacuum number is supposed to be at the transmission, before the
> modulator but after the restrictor?
>
> Does anyone have vacuum diagram for the 83 240D?
>
> 3.  The speedometer is not registering anything. It’s hooked up at the
> transmission but I haven’t checked the dash yet.  Cruise is not working.
> Will cruise control function on this car if all else is correct but
> speedometer is not functioning?
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So you're one third as wealthy as Warren Buffet?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 1:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The eagle has flown.
>
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:
> > Michael Esh
> > 220 Robinwood Drive
> > Whitehall, MI 49461
> >
> > Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a
> look and send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look
> "used" and one that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or
> pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123
> stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!
> >>
> >> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:
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> still have my address?
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The eagle has flown.

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
Thanks.



On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and send what 
you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one that looks 
new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 
stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

You’ve heard the term “one percenters”?

Do the math.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Not sure what that means. 3% of what?  Is that your tax bracket?
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:57 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> One very good job.  A 3%er job.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > And how many jobs?
>> > 
>> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>> >> 
>> >> -D
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> >> OK, here you go:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> >> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> >> >> parts guy, to which I said:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> >> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> >> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
>> >> > 
>> >> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money 
>> >> > annually?
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Craig
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not sure what that means. 3% of what?  Is that your tax bracket?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:57 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> One very good job.  A 3%er job.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > And how many jobs?
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> At the time I averaged 3-4.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> OK, here you go:
> >> >>
> >> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> >> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a
> wholesale
> >> >> parts guy, to which I said:
> >> >>
> >> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would
> like
> >> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> >> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> >> >
> >> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money
> annually?
> >> >
> >> >
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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

One very good job.  A 3%er job.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> And how many jobs?
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> >> OK, here you go:
>> >> 
>> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> >> parts guy, to which I said:
>> >> 
>> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
>> > 
>> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Craig
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And how many jobs?

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> At the time I averaged 3-4.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> OK, here you go:
> >>
> >> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> >> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
> >> parts guy, to which I said:
> >>
> >> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
> >> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> >> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> >
> > How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

At the time I averaged 3-4.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2018, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> OK, here you go:
>> 
>> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
>> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
>> parts guy, to which I said:
>> 
>> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
>> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
>> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”
> 
> How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?
> 
> 
> Craig
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 15:37:59 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK, here you go:
> 
> In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision
> Motorcars, now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale
> parts guy, to which I said:
> 
> “I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like
> to spend that money here rather than spread it around between sellers
> on the Internets.  What can you do for me?”

How many Benzes do you have to have to spend that kind of money annually?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Okie Dokie!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 8:43 PM:

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck.
Thanks.



On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and send what 
you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one that looks 
new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 
stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!

Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


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[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Michael Esh
220 Robinwood Drive
Whitehall, MI 49461

Functional is good, pretty is good.  Send the nice one…what the heck. 
Thanks.


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look and 
> send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look "used" and one 
> that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or pretty and 
> functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123 stuff.  I have 
> never junked a 123.  They keep running!
> 
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:
>> Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have 
>> my address?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I don't think so.  Please send it.   When you get it you can take a look 
and send what you think its worth.   I think I have some that look 
"used" and one that looks new.  got a preference?   Just functional or 
pretty and functional?  Ive got a lot of 124 stuff, but not much 123 
stuff.  I have never junked a 123.  They keep running!


Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 7:48 PM:

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?



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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mike Esh via Mercedes]

Sold!  Let me cost and shipping  and please send it along. Do you still have my 
address?


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm pretty sure I have a gas cap.  Don't think I can help with any other items
> 
> 
> Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:38 AM:
>> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
>> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>> 
>>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight 
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system -
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
>> Mike
>> 
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Thanks Greg!  There are lots of good MB part in thingverse.  4 pages of 
em, including the CC cable adjuster, it sez for 116, but I'm sure it 
fits many other models of that era.


Now I need to look for or design the Little plastic bippy that goes in 
the throttle linkage on the 240Ds.  I have access to printers in the 
summer at the Fablab.


The 107 visor clips have been ridiculous or unobtanium for years. 
Someone started making them in the back yard or garage and selling 
online, so they are only $10-15 per pair now.  Still stupid prices for 2 
little prastic bits, but far better than unobtainium.


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 6:18 PM:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

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Nice!
My son in law is going to print one tomorrow.  I let you know how it turns out  

> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don via 
> Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 2:22 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -
> 
> Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.
> 
>> 
>> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system -
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1480687

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.

>
>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
>
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system -
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Visor clips sound like a perfect use for a 3D printer.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 1:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Try Ecklers performance4benz. I don't recall that their visor clips were
> that spendy.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Dec 3, 2018 12:38 PM, "Mike Esh via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order
> later today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>
>  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
>
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
> and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system -
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK, here you go:

In October of 1996, I walked into the Parts Department at Precision Motorcars, 
now MB of Tampa. I made sure I was speaking with a wholesale parts guy, to 
which I said:

“I buy between $2,000 and $5,000 worth of parts annually. I would like to spend 
that money here rather than spread it around between sellers on the Internets.  
What can you do for me?”

He immediately took my personal information and set up an account with a 
wholesale discount (approximately 25% off list) that I receive on all the parts 
I buy plus any swag the dealer sells in their little “boutique”.  22 years 
later and that parts guy retired earlier this year.  His “replacement” is a 
woman who has worked the counter there for longer.  There are two other parts 
people who have been there as long that know who I am as well.  They treat me 
very well, as I respect their efforts and time and make sure the corporate 
brass get a letter every couple of years expounding on the excellent job they 
all do for me.

The parts people have given me access to a number I can text my parts lists and 
orders to. This is nice, as it eliminates all the phone chatter and increases 
accuracy.  If I have needs and don’t know numbers, I give them the last 8 of 
the VIN and a description and I’ll have a response texted back to me usually 
within an hour.

I also make sure all of my parts orders are “stock orders”, meaning that they 
come in 2-4 business days after ordering.  The dealers get a spiff from 
Mercedes for stock orders that saves them money on shipping and applies to 
their monthly quota of purchased parts.  This is an important metric for the 
dealers.  When I need something “VOR” (next day) they gladly do this for me at 
no extra charge, as they’re way ahead of the game with the stock orders I place.

That’s it.

Oh, yeah - in the next week or two I’ll pop in at lunch time with 2-3 large 
pizzas for the people on the parts counter.  Inside the lid of each will be a 
“thank you” message from me.

-D




> On Dec 3, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan P says:
> 
>> Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville IL.
> 
> IIRC, you have a special relationship with your local dealership parts 
> department. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to develop that 
> relationship? I have probably asked before, but now seems like a good time to 
> ask again.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan P says:

>Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville IL.

IIRC, you have a special relationship with your local dealership parts 
department. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to develop that 
relationship? I have probably asked before, but now seems like a good time to 
ask again.


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'm pretty sure I have a gas cap.  Don't think I can help with any other 
items



Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote on 12/3/18 11:38 AM:

Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
today for my newly acquired 1983 240D

  Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.

Also looking for:
Gas/oil filler cap.
Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a Mann.  
Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. Thoughts?
Clear fuel filter(s)
Canister fuel filter(s)

Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight and 
true. Not stopping as well as it should.
Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
other calipers.
Working on vacuum system -
Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
Shifting is erratic as well.
Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted out.
I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
Mike

  








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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Try Ecklers performance4benz. I don't recall that their visor clips were
that spendy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Dec 3, 2018 12:38 PM, "Mike Esh via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order
later today for my newly acquired 1983 240D

 Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used
one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am
checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.

Also looking for:
Gas/oil filler cap.
Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included.
Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a
Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately.
Thoughts?
Clear fuel filter(s)
Canister fuel filter(s)

Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight
and true. Not stopping as well as it should.
Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The
front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new
caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around
other calipers.
Working on vacuum system -
Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
Shifting is erratic as well.
Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted
out.
I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.
Mike









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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Meyle used to be pretty good stuff. 
Now it's just another name you find on generic parts. 
Up to you to determine whether Mann is worth $7 more than generic. 
Seems like somebody said Mann only on one of the transmission filters, but I 
don't remember if that was W123 or W124.

Rock Auto has Motorad fuel and oil filler caps for about $2 each. I assume 
they're 'good enough'. 
Gates and Stant for a bit more $$$.

If you're ordering from Rock you can get Mann oil filters for $7 or Champion 
Labs for $4.40.
And Mann prefilters are $20 for a bag of ten. Seems like Rusty used to charge 
me about $1.50 for them 15 years ago. I like to keep a couple of prefilters in 
the glove box of every diesel.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Promo code for free shipping is: 500EPROMO

-D


> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville (IL).  Definitely buy the 
> center bearing from Mercedes - it comes in a kit form with a new boot and the 
> retention rings. You won’t get these from an aftermarket supplier, and the 
> price will be almost the same.
> 
> https://www.mboemparts.com
> 
> There’s a promo code for free shipping from them, too.  I need to look it up. 
>  I’lll post it momentarily.  Kleb will probably pipe up and say “Importec”, 
> which is fine, but they won’t have the OE bearing kit. I always stick with 
> Mann, as I trust them.  Meyle often reboxes Asian garbage.  Look for a Mann 
> part number with “/KIT” after the number, which will have all the bits needed 
> to do the complete filter/fluid swap.
> 
> And yes, you’re going to get boned for visor clips. No good way around that 
> one.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
>> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
>> 
>> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
>> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
>> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
>> 
>> Also looking for:
>> Gas/oil filler cap.
>> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
>> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
>> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
>> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
>> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
>> Thoughts?
>> Clear fuel filter(s)
>> Canister fuel filter(s)
>> 
>> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight 
>> and true. Not stopping as well as it should. 
>> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
>> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
>> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
>> other calipers.
>> Working on vacuum system - 
>> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
>> Shifting is erratic as well.
>> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
>> out.
>> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.  
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Parts -

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Check your parts prices with MB of Naperville (IL).  Definitely buy the center 
bearing from Mercedes - it comes in a kit form with a new boot and the 
retention rings. You won’t get these from an aftermarket supplier, and the 
price will be almost the same.

https://www.mboemparts.com

There’s a promo code for free shipping from them, too.  I need to look it up.  
I’lll post it momentarily.  Kleb will probably pipe up and say “Importec”, 
which is fine, but they won’t have the OE bearing kit. I always stick with 
Mann, as I trust them.  Meyle often reboxes Asian garbage.  Look for a Mann 
part number with “/KIT” after the number, which will have all the bits needed 
to do the complete filter/fluid swap.

And yes, you’re going to get boned for visor clips. No good way around that one.

-D




> On Dec 3, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Mike Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone want to sell any of the following.  I am placing an order  later 
> today for my newly acquired 1983 240D
> 
> Autohaus AZ wants almost $30.00 for a visor clip!  Does anyone have a used 
> one they would like to part with or know where I can get a used one?  I am 
> checking local junk yards.  Any color will do.
> 
> Also looking for:
> Gas/oil filler cap.
> Yellow vacuum check valve for door lock system.
> Hood Pad - with or without heat shield.
> Center driveshaft support with bearing and bearing if not included. 
> Transmission filter and gasket  - Autohaus has two listed, a Meyle and a 
> Mann.  Mann is about $7.00 more and gasket must be ordered separately. 
> Thoughts?
> Clear fuel filter(s)
> Canister fuel filter(s)
> 
> Update on condition - It is running well and going down the road straight and 
> true. Not stopping as well as it should. 
> Put new rubber brake lines on all 4 wheels and new pads on the front.  The 
> front pads were soaked with what looked like brake fluid.  installed new 
> caliper on left  front. ( it was in the trunk) Did not see any leaks around 
> other calipers.
> Working on vacuum system - 
> Brakes feel like vacuum assist is intermittent.
> Shifting is erratic as well.
> Discovered broken line to door locks.  Will test drive after that is sorted 
> out.
> I’m sure more parts will be need as time goes on.  
> Mike
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Bosch relay kit

[LT Don]

Steve:

I did the upgrade two years ago. Install new glow plugs, throw away the
toaster wires (actually, I sold mine on eBay), wire per directions,
disregard anything involving putting in a new relay, and look forward to
winter.

Two years later, I'm still going strong with the 240D stock relay.

On 4/21/07, Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone replaced the stock relay and glow plugs with the aftermarket
Bosch set-up? I purchased a kit from Rusty but the instructions are
describing a series installation where my car has a parallel setup. I want
to know if this is an issue or just proceed according to the kit
instructions?

Thanks,

Steve Bailey
1983 240D
1987 300D


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Bosch relay kit

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:11:34 -0400 Steve Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Has anyone replaced the stock relay and glow plugs with the aftermarket
 Bosch set-up? I purchased a kit from Rusty but the instructions are
 describing a series installation where my car has a parallel setup. I
 want to know if this is an issue or just proceed according to the kit
 instructions?

I purchased an after-glow kit for our 617.912 when we moved here to Los
Alamos (colder weather and higher altitude than Austin, TX) in 2002. As I
recall, it was a direct plug in, though I did have to purchase the 5th
glow plug separately.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Bosch relay kit

[Jim Cathey]

Has anyone replaced the stock relay and glow plugs with the aftermarket
Bosch set-up? I purchased a kit from Rusty but the instructions are
describing a series installation where my car has a parallel setup. I 
want

to know if this is an issue or just proceed according to the kit
instructions?


It's simple electricity, so far as the plug wiring goes.  I'd just
say follow the instructions.  What you take out might not match what
they're talking about, but what you end up with should match.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Cloth Seats

[Marshall Booth]

MICHAEL ESH wrote:
Does any one have a source for light blue cloth seats for 1983 240D? My new 
acquisition has been baking in the sun and needs some work.  The driver seat 
is worn out, the rear deck and back of the back seat are crumbling.  I would 
entertain purchasing good used if anyone has something they would like to 
get rid of.

Thanks,
Mike


Cloth seats were not an option in the US so finding replacements, used 
or new is unlikely. Most of the available used seats will be MB-TEX with 
perhaps a few leather ones available.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Cloth Seats

[Joe Knight]

Something like this question could provide a good test of the
functionality of the online EPC.  If you sign up for a month's
subscription to the worldwide version you should be able to enter your
VIN, go into parts lookup and let it tell you precisely the part
number and color code for your seat covers.  You could take that info
down to your local dealer  see if you can find a cooperative parts
man who'll order from Germany, assuming of course that they have the
right stuff still in inventory over there and that the price doesn't
make you blanch.

On a not unrelated note, does anybody by chance have a working link to
that euro parts availibility/pricing page?  Used to be
http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/Projects/wi/cda/etpl?ETNR=A2012404317from=queryetpl_lang=
, identified in my Favorites as Classic Ersatzteile, but this old link
no longer functions.  Hope they haven't abandoned that service
altogether.

-joe

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[MICHAEL ESH]

I checked with Rusty before I ordered the used one, he quoted $260.00 for a 
new one.


Mike Esh


What could you have done, Rusty? (for an '83 240 front t6orsion bar)

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[MICHAEL ESH]

Replaced Torsion in bar in the 1983 240D. It wasn't too bad.  Hardest part 
was getting the nuts off the back of the Brake Master Cylinder.  After that 
everything went fairly quickly.  I also replaced driver side lower control 
bushing, that was a real bear.
I ordered a very good used torsion bar with all nuts and bolts and new 
rubber from Chuck at All Benz.  He was very helpful. $130.00 shipped to my 
door.   New bar is $260.00.


Mike


- Original Message - 
From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace?



rumor has it that MICHAEL wrote:


New member of the family  - 1983 240D   $350.00 for car and $650 for
brake parts, battery, towing tires.

The drivers side front torsion bar where it hooks to the control arm
is rusted away.

1. Is this a difficult fix on the 240D?  It looks like I just have
remove brake master cylinder and the battery and box.   2. Where can
I get this part?  New or Used?  I will also need all the parts to
re-attach it.  Kaleb do have one?


It took me about 2.5 hr to remove one from my 4-cyl parts car. On
another day, I spent about 3-4 hr. doing the bad-out, good-in swap on
a 5-cyl.

And since it is above the springs, no need to messs with spring
compressors.

It looks like it can't possibly get out, but it can.

Oh, and I did one or the other without disconnecting the brake lines.
I just unbolted the booster and skooted it forward.

--Philip,

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:13:18 -0400 MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I ordered a very good used torsion bar with all nuts and bolts and new 
 rubber from Chuck at All Benz.  He was very helpful. $130.00 shipped to
 my  door.   New bar is $260.00.

Where is Chuck at All Benz?

How does one contact him?


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[MICHAEL ESH]

1-914-202-4588
Out of Stamford Connecticut
or www.mercedes-parts.com  For some reason the site asks for a password and 
then I cannot get it to shut down with CTRL-ALT-Delete and shutting it down 
in Task Manager.


I called him, left a message and he called back within a day.

Mike



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Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced



On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:13:18 -0400 MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I ordered a very good used torsion bar with all nuts and bolts and new
rubber from Chuck at All Benz.  He was very helpful. $130.00 shipped to
my  door.   New bar is $260.00.


Where is Chuck at All Benz?

How does one contact him?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[Bob Rentfro]

MICHAEL typed:

I ordered a very good used torsion bar with all nuts and bolts and new
rubber from Chuck at All Benz.  He was very helpful. $130.00 shipped to my
door.   New bar is $260.00.

What could you have done, Rusty? (for an '83 240 front t6orsion bar)

Bob Rentfro 

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace? Replaced

[Rick Knoble]

I ordered a very good used torsion bar with all nuts and bolts and new
rubber from Chuck at All Benz.  He was very helpful. $130.00 shipped to my
door.   New bar is $260.00.

What could you have done, Rusty? (for an '83 240 front t6orsion bar)

Bob Rentfro


I bought one a couple years back from Sun Valley Recyclers in CA. 
http://mercedesdismantlers.com//usedmercedesparts.html


for 50 bucks. They probably want a bit more now.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D manual transmission

[MICHAEL ESH]

Thanks Loren,
as soon as I get brakes, alignment and steering in safe running order I will 
begin work on the transmission.


Mike
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From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D manual transmission


Assuming the clutch and adjustment are working ok, and the shift linkage 
is

in proper adjustment, then pull the trans, clean it up and replace the
synchro rings as necessary.  it becomes pretty obvious when you pull the
cover off.  I have only seen 1 bad manual trans in 30+ years of MBs.  That
one I believe was run dry, and then WAS filled with 90W.  It was not on 
one

of my cars, but one i agreed to look at for another guy.  I replaced a
couple of bearings, some synchro rings and the seals.  While you are in
there, may as well check the bearings and replace the seals.

Careful disassembly, and cleanliness are the order of the day.  On the
older ones, there were split roller bearings with brass cages and such. 
No
trouble if you are careful, but lots of rollers can fall out if you are 
not
careful.  I can't say about the construction of the newer trans used on 
the

123.

At 04:28 PM 10/11/2006, you wrote:

Any body have any input on the fix for a 1983 240 4 speed manual
transmission grinding into 3rd gear?
Mike
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D manual transmission

[Loren Faeth]

Assuming the clutch and adjustment are working ok, and the shift linkage is 
in proper adjustment, then pull the trans, clean it up and replace the 
synchro rings as necessary.  it becomes pretty obvious when you pull the 
cover off.  I have only seen 1 bad manual trans in 30+ years of MBs.  That 
one I believe was run dry, and then WAS filled with 90W.  It was not on one 
of my cars, but one i agreed to look at for another guy.  I replaced a 
couple of bearings, some synchro rings and the seals.  While you are in 
there, may as well check the bearings and replace the seals.


Careful disassembly, and cleanliness are the order of the day.  On the 
older ones, there were split roller bearings with brass cages and such.  No 
trouble if you are careful, but lots of rollers can fall out if you are not 
careful.  I can't say about the construction of the newer trans used on the 
123.


At 04:28 PM 10/11/2006, you wrote:
Any body have any input on the fix for a 1983 240 4 speed manual 
transmission grinding into 3rd gear?

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace?

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that MICHAEL wrote:

 New member of the family  - 1983 240D   $350.00 for car and $650 for
 brake parts, battery, towing tires.  
 
 The drivers side front torsion bar where it hooks to the control arm
 is rusted away.
 
 1. Is this a difficult fix on the 240D?  It looks like I just have
 remove brake master cylinder and the battery and box.   2. Where can
 I get this part?  New or Used?  I will also need all the parts to
 re-attach it.  Kaleb do have one?

It took me about 2.5 hr to remove one from my 4-cyl parts car. On
another day, I spent about 3-4 hr. doing the bad-out, good-in swap on
a 5-cyl.

And since it is above the springs, no need to messs with spring
compressors.

It looks like it can't possibly get out, but it can.

Oh, and I did one or the other without disconnecting the brake lines.
I just unbolted the booster and skooted it forward.

--Philip,

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace?

[MICHAEL ESH]

Thanks Philip,
That's exactly the kind of information I have looking for.  I will go ahead 
and order parts to replace as opposed to repair.


Mike
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From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D Front Torsion Bar - repair or replace?



rumor has it that MICHAEL wrote:


New member of the family  - 1983 240D   $350.00 for car and $650 for
brake parts, battery, towing tires.

The drivers side front torsion bar where it hooks to the control arm
is rusted away.

1. Is this a difficult fix on the 240D?  It looks like I just have
remove brake master cylinder and the battery and box.   2. Where can
I get this part?  New or Used?  I will also need all the parts to
re-attach it.  Kaleb do have one?


It took me about 2.5 hr to remove one from my 4-cyl parts car. On
another day, I spent about 3-4 hr. doing the bad-out, good-in swap on
a 5-cyl.

And since it is above the springs, no need to messs with spring
compressors.

It looks like it can't possibly get out, but it can.

Oh, and I did one or the other without disconnecting the brake lines.
I just unbolted the booster and skooted it forward.

--Philip,

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D in Columbus OH

[Mitch Haley]

Sunil Hari wrote:
 
 How much would a new/rebuilt  rear end cost?  Or might the problem be
 something else entirely?

Nobody buys new or rebuilt diffs for a 240D, the cars don't make
enough power to put any stress on them, so used ones abound. 
If both back wheels are locked, it's either brakes or diff. If one rear
wheel turns backwards as one turns forwards, it might be the tranny, like
maybe it's in park and the shift linkage is bad. I've got a nice 240D
diff, I think it's 7x,xxx miles. $50 + $10 to box and ship + actual freight
from MI, or $50 if you want to drive 600 miles round trip and pick it up. 
Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You are passing on it?  That manny tranny alone will bring 500

kevin kraly wrote:

Well,  I took a look at the 1983 240D parts car today.  To put it simply, it 
was TRASHED!  The seats were torn as was the shift boot, the console was 
trashed, and the like new tires had about 12000 miles on them with some 
abnormal wear on the insides.  The headlight doors were also cracked/broken, 
so I decided that it wasn't worth much to me.  The AC stuff was all there. 
If anyone else is interested in the car, call Jacob at (503)750-3811. 
Perhaps he'll part the thing out.  It did have a very straight red body with 
a silver driver's side front door.  He was asking $200, but it's been there 
since Sunday so...?


Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D update

[kevin kraly]

That manny tranny alone will bring 500

I'll ship it to you for $500.

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela

Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D w/stick and today the brake pedal pressure got really stiff

[Loren Faeth]

Yes

The easiest way to determine which is to unscrew the line going to the 
brake booster and start the engine and see if you have 
vacuum.  Alternately, you can separate the tube at the first junction and 
plug in a vacuum gauge.  If you have vacuum, than the booster or something 
else in the line is suspect.


At 05:51 PM 1/19/2006, you wrote:

I have a 1983 240 D w/stick and today the brake pedal  pressure got really
stiff. Is that the power brake booster gone bad or is  it a vacuum problem?

Steve
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D w/stick and today the brake pedal pressure got really stiff

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

probably a vacuum leak.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a 1983 240 D w/stick and today the brake pedal  pressure got really 
stiff. Is that the power brake booster gone bad or is  it a vacuum problem?
 
Steve

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